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Top five (or more) things you had to tweak since going Paleo (individual differences)

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Updated about 16 hours ago
Created April 17, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Each person is different, that's why Paleo can vary (within certain limits) for everyone. I am sure there were some hunter-gatherers that could not eat some nuts or berries :)

My question is about what have you learned on this road of self-discovery while doing Paleo. I know the answers will vary for different people, but I really want to know how you had to adjust Paleo diet to fit your body's needs.

Here are my top 20 things:

  1. My body does not tolerate nuts/seeds well.
  2. I get addicted to fermented foods.
  3. I am allergic to eggs.
  4. I cannot have canned foods, I get sick.
  5. I cannot have fruit that is high in sugar, I get sugar cravings.
  6. My body does not tolerate oils, including olive oil. I get sick from flax seed oil.
  7. I cannot have "pure coconut oil" but I am fine with virgin coconut oil in tiny amounts.
  8. I only like grass fed meat. I don't like other kinds.
  9. I cannot have citrus fruit and pineapple.
  10. I feel better (have more energy) when I am hungry.
  11. I don't like nightshades.
  12. I can have cabbage and spinach three times per day, and still ask for more.
  13. I need fruit in my diet. Without fruit, I don't feel as good.
  14. My body does not tolerate seaweed very well.
  15. I don't need to eat three times per day. Two times is enough if I eat right.
  16. It is possible to overcome cravings with the right diet.
  17. It takes a long long time to heal if you have gluten intolerance.
  18. It is important to eat certain things every day even if I don't want to so I don't get cravings.
  19. It is important for me to have safe starches everyday, like beets, carrots and squash.
  20. I will never go back to eating "normal". I will never listen to another diet guru. I have to trust my body more, it knows better than I do.

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2913 · September 14, 2012 at 12:55 PM

I feel like my body is "working" when it's hungry, so I know what you mean by #10. I don't have leaky gut or anything, I just feel more efficient.

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3280 · May 14, 2012 at 8:14 PM

please post back your experience hacking your LDL

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3280 · May 14, 2012 at 7:56 PM

+1 on #5 (especially Justin's Choc Almond Butter)!

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1607 · April 18, 2012 at 8:17 PM

IF explodes my cortisol levels. :(

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15400 · April 18, 2012 at 4:54 PM

It means I get sick. A couple times I got violently sick (I actually thought that was the end of me), but a couple of times I was just a little sick (like 1 hour in pain).

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37187 · April 18, 2012 at 3:44 PM

#5 is a must for me! I have to be done with coffee by about 11am or I'm wide awake at bedtime. It's odd, too, because I'm fully alert in the morning and don't start drinking coffee for an hour or so. #9 expresses my feelings EXACTLY. Out of lingering defiance, I eat only the skin off the breast and then slow-cook the breast meat with fat and vegetables.

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2178 · April 18, 2012 at 3:37 PM

wow I am right with you on SO many of these.....which makes me think I should try #3. i will never try #5, BLECH!

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2178 · April 18, 2012 at 3:36 PM

when you say your body doesn't "tolerate" nuts, what does that mean? weightgain? or you don't feel well? something else?

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788 · April 18, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Sounds like you have FODMAP Intolerance. Google it if you haven't already. '

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143 · April 18, 2012 at 9:51 AM

gydle - there's a video of me when I was about 3 where I play some Gameboy game and DESTROY a full, large bag of sweets in about 30 second. Tap-tap, eat-eat, tap-tap. Thanks, grandparents.

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5043 · April 18, 2012 at 6:51 AM

this sounds almost exactly like me. A lifelong sugar addiction is a difficult thing to overcome.

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65 · April 18, 2012 at 5:23 AM

VB, just to complete the alliteration, and, well, I like (sub) tropical asia. We have almost the same quality over here in Germany.

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15400 · April 18, 2012 at 4:35 AM

Why Malaysia? I tried mangoes on one of the Caribbean islands - it was awesome! Tasted completely different.

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3280 · April 18, 2012 at 3:24 AM

Glad to see you, nance! Missed your "face" and levelheadedness hereabouts. :)

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5509 · April 18, 2012 at 2:22 AM

OH wait, I love seaweed:). Other than that...the whole deal about binging especially rings true for me.

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5509 · April 18, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Pistachios are the worst. For some reason, I bought them again last week, despite failed attempts in the past. Yeah, same thing happened.

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1967 · April 18, 2012 at 1:30 AM

1-9 sums it up for me. #5 is soooo true.

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5509 · April 18, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Wow, all of those except for #10 apply to me.

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41471 · April 17, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Haha, +1 for a fellow scavenger!

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2504 · April 17, 2012 at 9:37 PM

I am fodmap sensitive, so all those cabbage type veggies (along with many fruits + coconut milk) all create yucky growth in my belly, which in turn makes slow digesting foods like fats and proteins get all yucky in my belly too. So I drink a TON of kefir (dairy and water) to try to keep it healthy in there, but I also have to be careful with my timing on fats and FODMAP foods.

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65 · April 17, 2012 at 9:04 PM

It is more than just sugar. I've checked: Mango seems to be strong in Vit A, C and B, and contains potassium and copper. VB, your dislike for this very tasty fruit can mean that your just filled up with those specific components. But, Mind your Mango in Malaysia!

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37187 · April 17, 2012 at 8:57 PM

@Kelly, non-processed fermented veggies are great. If you can't find a source of water kefir or grains for making your own, another great probiotic beverage is kombucha, fermented tea. With either the water kefir or kombucha, make sure you start with tiny daily doses--no more than a tbsp per day--for the first week or so to avoid strong reactions. The good news is that they're powerful; the bad news is that they carry a wallop if you drink too much at first.

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8757 · April 17, 2012 at 8:47 PM

thanks Nance! I guess I'm going to have to go on a hunt to see if I can even find water kefir here (just moved to Sao Paulo Brazil)....I'm doing GAPS intro now (wk 4) but I havent any probiotics or even tried fermented veggies or juices because frankly they scare me! wondering if kefir is similar to fermented veggies?

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37187 · April 17, 2012 at 8:36 PM

I'm with you, VB! The best I ever feel is between 6 and 24 hours after eating. "Lean and mean" is very real for me and I'm pretty aware of digestion as an energy grabber.

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37187 · April 17, 2012 at 8:31 PM

@VB, aw shucks! Thanks for the kind words. :-))

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1467 · April 17, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Well.... :-) I used to panic at the thought of not having food every 2 hours and was constantly thinking of food. Don't get me wrong, I still love my food but I am not constantly thinking about my next flat white or scone etc.

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 7:31 PM

No longer obsessed with food. I wish I could say this. I go to three different stores to buy different kinds of spinach and meat and look for particular brands. Does it count as being obsessed?

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 7:29 PM

I also have very specific cravings... interesting. No, I believe there is something in mangoes that makes you crave them - I HATE MANGOS (unless I am in a tropical country). Thanks for your answer!

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Oh, thanks for your clarifying this! :)

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20519 · April 17, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Perhaps I phrased incorrectly. These are things that when I transitioned into the Paleo/Primal lifestyle I added in or adjusted to fit my needs for an even healthier style of living. I used N=1 to discover how I reacted to these particular items, as they seemed to be the culprits for both good/bad, and adopted/decreased/eliminated based on my personal results

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20519 · April 17, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Perhaps I phrased incorrectly. These are things that when I adopted the Paleo/Primal lifestyle I added in or adjusted to fit my needs for an even healthier style of living. I used N=1 to discover how I reacted to these particular items, as they seemed to be the culprits for both good/bad, and decreased or eliminated based on my personal results.

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20519 · April 17, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Perhaps I phrased incorrectly. These are things things that when I adopted the Paleo/Primal lifestyle I added in or adjusted to fit my needs for an even healthier style of living. I used N=1 to discover how I reacted to these particular items and decreased or eliminated based on my personal results.

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20519 · April 17, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Perhaps I phrased incorrectly. These are things things that when I adopted the Paleo/Primal lifestyle I added in or adjusted to fit my needs for an even healthier style of living.

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5135 · April 17, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Well, mango is sweet and delicious. Maybe you're just craving sugar.

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Why N=1? Those are just opinions?

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 6:32 PM

Nance, you are my favorite Paleohacker! You are so sweet and caring! Thanks!!!

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37187 · April 17, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Actual healing didn't appear to start until after I began drinking water kefir. Prior to that, all symptoms returned immediately if I ate neo-foods. Once I started drinking the water kefir, my gut healed gradually over about 5-6 months. I judged my recovery "complete" when I finally ate some wheat without symptoms. I ate it only as a test and don't include any grain, or even nut-meal flours, in my day-to-day regimen.

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444 · April 17, 2012 at 6:01 PM

I have found that certain things like nuts and eggs are fine in small doses and cause a reaction in large doses. It took a long time for me to figure out that free-feeding from a large list of foods wasn't going to work for me for this reason, I have to watch portions if I want to enjoy certain foods, which I very much do.

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Oops! I meant "mind", of course!

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 5:27 PM

I have leaky gut... I feel different right after I eat. I feel much better when I am hungry.

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143 · April 17, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Yes, I'm noticing it too, compared to my initial cheating I'm less hardcore now :)

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1115 · April 17, 2012 at 5:08 PM

I don't understand #10... I feel hungry when I'm hungry.

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143 · April 17, 2012 at 5:07 PM

That's a detailed list :) Isn't fat around the abdominal area usually associated with hormonal issues (like insulin sensitivity, cortisol) more than just carb intake?

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 5:02 PM

I have less and less binges with time.

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 5:02 PM

I don't believe in IF. Interesting to hear your point of view. Thanks.

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 4:59 PM

I am also interested - how long did it take?

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 4:57 PM

If you do not mine me asking, what fats do you use? As for the cabbage family - could it be because of your gut issues? Do you need probiotics?

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547 · April 17, 2012 at 4:50 PM

I claimed no intolerances but now I read your list, I question high fat too. At one point I experimented with 60+% GOOD fats. Maybe just coincidence but I had major breakouts during that time. Hmmm.

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8757 · April 17, 2012 at 4:45 PM

congrats Nance on the healing! May I ask how long it took for you to start seeing gut improvement/healing?

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143 · April 17, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Thanks for the tip! When I'm cheating, which is rare, I still go for the good, "real" stuff. You have to live a little :)

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865 · April 17, 2012 at 9:44 PM

  1. I can binge on anything. I need to be careful.
  2. I am STILL addicted to sugar.
  3. Fat really DOES make me feel satiated! That was definitely a lightbulb moment.
  4. Fat binges lead to nausea. Carb binges lead to more carb binges. Vegetable binges lead to really painful stomach aches.
  5. It's really, really difficult for me to practice portion control with nuts.
  6. Paleo food really does taste delicious. It took me a few months to learn how to NOT scarf down my food and actually slowly chew and TASTE it. But OMG, hello flavor! Paleo is definitely the tastiest diet I've ever been on.
  7. IF is very eye opening. It helped me relearn what hunger feels like.
  8. I exercise better on an empty stomach.
  9. I function better in general on an empty stomach.
  10. It is possible to develop an allergy to chocolate. FML.
  11. Dealing with the mental side of dieting makes ANY diet easier. Acknowledging and working through my food issues was a huge step in making Paleo a positive experience for me.
  12. Exercise makes you look and feel better only when your diet is good. Exercise is not any kind of miracle for me. For me, tweaking my diet was much, much, MUCH more effective than adding/changing my exercise routine. Exercise complements a good diet, and it cannot make up for a bad one.
  13. Just because I can tolerate processed foods, gluten + grains, sugar, dairy, nuts and fruit DOES NOT MEAN I should eat them. Most of the time I am better without them.
  14. Paleo does not solve all of my problems. Wish it did, but it doesn't.

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5509 · April 18, 2012 at 2:22 AM

OH wait, I love seaweed:). Other than that...the whole deal about binging especially rings true for me.

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5509 · April 18, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Pistachios are the worst. For some reason, I bought them again last week, despite failed attempts in the past. Yeah, same thing happened.

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5509 · April 18, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Wow, all of those except for #10 apply to me.

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1967 · April 18, 2012 at 1:30 AM

1-9 sums it up for me. #5 is soooo true.

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3280 · May 14, 2012 at 7:56 PM

+1 on #5 (especially Justin's Choc Almond Butter)!

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1277 · April 18, 2012 at 2:42 PM

1) I have no symptoms or reactions to any foods. I can binge on gluten, sugar, legumes, nightshades, etc... and not feel any different. This is not to say that these things aren't actually causing problems, just saying if they are I have no indication of it.

2) I enjoy binging. I mean eating until it hurts. And I enjoy to do it a lot - like once or twice a day. So I can either fight my natural urge to binge and be unhappy or I can be sure to make good food choices.

3) A 18 hr daily fast with 2 meals in the 6 hour feed window works best for me.

4) I thought training fasted was begging for disaster. It is not. It actually works really, really well.

5) Coffee is the best breakfast. If I drink coffee after 12pm it hinders my sleep.

6) Macronutirents don't matter. As long as you are eating good food selections the actually breakdown is of little consequence.

7) If ketosis doesn't support the workout, the workout is wrong.

8) I need very little exercise to look like I'm in great shape. I need a ton of activity to actually be in great shape.

9) I hate boneless, skinless chicken breast. Once my staple to get lean I now think it represents everything that is wrong with the U.S.'s view of health and fitness.

10) Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, I believed before going paleo 4 years ago was wrong.

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2178 · April 18, 2012 at 3:37 PM

wow I am right with you on SO many of these.....which makes me think I should try #3. i will never try #5, BLECH!

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37187 · April 18, 2012 at 3:44 PM

#5 is a must for me! I have to be done with coffee by about 11am or I'm wide awake at bedtime. It's odd, too, because I'm fully alert in the morning and don't start drinking coffee for an hour or so. #9 expresses my feelings EXACTLY. Out of lingering defiance, I eat only the skin off the breast and then slow-cook the breast meat with fat and vegetables.

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547 · April 17, 2012 at 4:45 PM

My list differs because I have no omissions at all. I have widened my approved foods.

  1. My ancestors must have been scavengers because I have high tolerance to carbs, gluten, dairy, etc. etc. Go ahead and hate me (or doubt me), but I have no ill effects from any of the bad foods. The principle is what keeps me away.
  2. RE: High tolerance - organic, whole fat dairy is a must in my home.
  3. With 4 years of experimenting with ups and downs, I have gone from strict paleo to a more whole foods/primal-y stance.
  4. I am a sugar addict. Paleo desserts do not trick me.
  5. I will never look at any diet the same. (Goes for Crossfit and gyms too.)
  6. Paleo saved me from years of binging and restricting.
  7. (edit) I can't successfully IF. Leads to a mega-binge every time. Attempting again soon!

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41471 · April 17, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Haha, +1 for a fellow scavenger!

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 5:02 PM

I don't believe in IF. Interesting to hear your point of view. Thanks.

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1607 · April 18, 2012 at 8:17 PM

IF explodes my cortisol levels. :(

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143 · April 17, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Here are mine:

1) I'm still addicted to sugar. A cheat meal (ice cream, sometimes Nutella, no gluten) can still send me on a spiral. Wonder when I'll get rid of this doozie.

2) I can handle most "bad" food like grains and dairy but still avoid grains like the plague (if you can tolerate them they still do damage) and eat only fermented dairy, since I'm still trying to lean out. Kefir for the win.

3) I've had to minimize heavy cream and butter intake since I've gotten back some "high" (178) LDL numbers. Will be doing blood work soon to figure if it's having any effect. To my understanding and previous butter/cream intake, It should.

4) Fruit on a minimum. Same goal, leaning out. Fruit has been a big part of me getting off sugar and all that stuff but is screwing with my attempt to lose the last few pounds. Eliminating it completely a few months ago left me less bloated and got me down 3 kilos in a matter of days, kilos that were hard to lose before. Trying the same protocol again.

That's kinda it at the moment :)

Oh yeah, and EDIT, 5) IF - was totally surprised how good it is to skip breakfast after hearing about the importance of a "healthy whole grain cereal breakfast" all my damn life. I'm IFing when I feel like it, usually 3 - 5 days a week. I've noticed my digestion improve, not to mention kicking autophagy into gear and all the other benefits of fasting.

I tried doing it all the time but it became a chore. Now, I fast when I feel like it and have a huge breakfast when I don't. Eat when hungry. The best stuff I've learned.

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 5:02 PM

I have less and less binges with time.

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143 · April 17, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Yes, I'm noticing it too, compared to my initial cheating I'm less hardcore now :)

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5043 · April 18, 2012 at 6:51 AM

this sounds almost exactly like me. A lifelong sugar addiction is a difficult thing to overcome.

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143 · April 18, 2012 at 9:51 AM

gydle - there's a video of me when I was about 3 where I play some Gameboy game and DESTROY a full, large bag of sweets in about 30 second. Tap-tap, eat-eat, tap-tap. Thanks, grandparents.

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3280 · May 14, 2012 at 8:14 PM

please post back your experience hacking your LDL

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37187 · April 17, 2012 at 3:36 PM

To break the grip of SAD, I went mostly-meat for 3 weeks before beginning the gradual reintroduction of vegetables and fruits.

To heal my gut, I started drinking water kefir which made it possible for me to tolerate yogurt. I started making extra-fat yogurt at home.

The longer I've been on whole foods, the greater the percentage of raw greens, vegetables and fruits I'm eating has become. By food volume, I've settled around 75% raw plus modest portions of cooked meat and vegetables and my probiotics (now that my gut is healed I've reduced the amounts of yogurt and kefir as well.)

I expect that when fall comes I'll revert to a regimen heavier in meat and tubers, but for now I'm loving the raw stuff and my bright skin tone says it's right for me.

Honestly, my number one "tweak" has been to follow my own path rather than seeking the "right" diet as defined by others.

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37187 · April 17, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Actual healing didn't appear to start until after I began drinking water kefir. Prior to that, all symptoms returned immediately if I ate neo-foods. Once I started drinking the water kefir, my gut healed gradually over about 5-6 months. I judged my recovery "complete" when I finally ate some wheat without symptoms. I ate it only as a test and don't include any grain, or even nut-meal flours, in my day-to-day regimen.

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8757 · April 17, 2012 at 8:47 PM

thanks Nance! I guess I'm going to have to go on a hunt to see if I can even find water kefir here (just moved to Sao Paulo Brazil)....I'm doing GAPS intro now (wk 4) but I havent any probiotics or even tried fermented veggies or juices because frankly they scare me! wondering if kefir is similar to fermented veggies?

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8757 · April 17, 2012 at 4:45 PM

congrats Nance on the healing! May I ask how long it took for you to start seeing gut improvement/healing?

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 4:59 PM

I am also interested - how long did it take?

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3280 · April 18, 2012 at 3:24 AM

Glad to see you, nance! Missed your "face" and levelheadedness hereabouts. :)

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37187 · April 17, 2012 at 8:57 PM

@Kelly, non-processed fermented veggies are great. If you can't find a source of water kefir or grains for making your own, another great probiotic beverage is kombucha, fermented tea. With either the water kefir or kombucha, make sure you start with tiny daily doses--no more than a tbsp per day--for the first week or so to avoid strong reactions. The good news is that they're powerful; the bad news is that they carry a wallop if you drink too much at first.

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 6:32 PM

Nance, you are my favorite Paleohacker! You are so sweet and caring! Thanks!!!

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37187 · April 17, 2012 at 8:31 PM

@VB, aw shucks! Thanks for the kind words. :-))

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2913 · September 14, 2012 at 1:03 PM

1) Low carb Paleo keeps me skinny but bored.

2) White rice isn't evil and doesn't make me feel like crap like other grains do.

3) Fruit is not breakfast, and should only be a snack when I feel like I might fall asleep mid-day at work. Subsequently, I don't "need" fruit to be healthy.

4) It doesn't matter if it's coconut milk, almond milk, raw milk or whatever, I am NOT a milk drinker.

5) Paleo baking isn't evil, it's really fun, but shouldn't be done on a regular basis if I don't want to gain weight.

6) Gluten = gas. Particularly for my husband. Wow.

7) I CAN live without bread. This one was huge for me, as simple and dumb as it sounds.

8) Since going Paleo, I can now look at pictures my "foodie" friends take and post all over Facebook and go "meh" and not feel jealous or like I have to go someplace amazing this weekend.

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638 · September 14, 2012 at 12:36 PM

  1. Sleeping 8-9 hours a night instead of 6-7 has made me a better person.
  2. I'm more lactose intolerant than gluten intolerant (according to N=1 short term GI effects anyhow)
  3. It turns out, I'm not a gassy person! (haha) I thought I was but since going Paleo my gastrointestinal system is like a well-oiled machine.
  4. I can live without fruit. I can't live without starch. Rice may be controversial but I feel so much better after adding it back in a couple times a week.
  5. Dark chocolate is still milk chocolates ugly, bitter cousin. The only bonus from eating dark chocolate is it tastes so gross it immediately kills my cravings.

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65 · April 17, 2012 at 6:42 PM

1.) Moderate to low carb works fine when fat is eaten in excess.

2.) I needed to increase salt consumption to avoid weird large pupils.

3.) I have cravings for bone broth and

4.) Mango. What does my body tell me here?

Cravings for special foods may indicate a lack of specific nutritions, right? Whats that supposed to mean, Mango cravings?

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15400 · April 18, 2012 at 4:35 AM

Why Malaysia? I tried mangoes on one of the Caribbean islands - it was awesome! Tasted completely different.

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 7:29 PM

I also have very specific cravings... interesting. No, I believe there is something in mangoes that makes you crave them - I HATE MANGOS (unless I am in a tropical country). Thanks for your answer!

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5135 · April 17, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Well, mango is sweet and delicious. Maybe you're just craving sugar.

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65 · April 17, 2012 at 9:04 PM

It is more than just sugar. I've checked: Mango seems to be strong in Vit A, C and B, and contains potassium and copper. VB, your dislike for this very tasty fruit can mean that your just filled up with those specific components. But, Mind your Mango in Malaysia!

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65 · April 18, 2012 at 5:23 AM

VB, just to complete the alliteration, and, well, I like (sub) tropical asia. We have almost the same quality over here in Germany.

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1467 · April 17, 2012 at 5:54 PM

The great thing about Paleo is that because things start working better, I am much more attuned to what my body likes and dislikes are:

Here are mine:

1) Low carb is not my friend

2) I function much better on an empty stomach

3) I do REALLY badly having a heavy lunch

4) High carb is not my friend

5) Moderate carbs are win win for me

6) I cannot tolerate gluten at all! I get the worst headaches and joint pain

7) Fruits are great but too much citrus gives me joint pain

8) Daily Kefir means that I am no longer lactose intolerant after being so all my life. I do try and restrict my lactose to a maximum of one or two full fat milky coffees a week and Ghee for cooking.

9) I am no longer obsessed with food. Hunger? Whatever!

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 7:31 PM

No longer obsessed with food. I wish I could say this. I go to three different stores to buy different kinds of spinach and meat and look for particular brands. Does it count as being obsessed?

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1467 · April 17, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Well.... :-) I used to panic at the thought of not having food every 2 hours and was constantly thinking of food. Don't get me wrong, I still love my food but I am not constantly thinking about my next flat white or scone etc.

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20519 · April 17, 2012 at 5:53 PM

All through N=1:

I can't eat more than 6 eggs a week or I react. Puffiness and breakouts.

Eliminating nuts and dried coconut from my house has made my brain and body more alert. A 60 day reset and choosing two things to exit during that timeframe were a huge eye opener. If they're out and about? Yum! Just not in my home.

I have a mild allergy to coconut oil. Tingly mouth, slight puff to lips, metallic flavour. Dried coconut, coconut milk are fine - just the oil.

No electronics 1-2 hours before bed, and none allowed in bed unless I'm under the weather, makes for deeper and more restful evenings.

Fish Oil and ZMA, the best. Body, brain, sleep are much better.

I'm boring.. that's it. I was already eating really well and fairly close to Paleo/Primal/Ninja, just had to remove grains, legumes, etc., so tweaking and adjusting has just been for food ratios and general playing about. I think N=1 is such fun. Nerd :)

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Why N=1? Those are just opinions?

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Oh, thanks for your clarifying this! :)

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20519 · April 17, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Perhaps I phrased incorrectly. These are things things that when I adopted the Paleo/Primal lifestyle I added in or adjusted to fit my needs for an even healthier style of living.

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20519 · April 17, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Perhaps I phrased incorrectly. These are things things that when I adopted the Paleo/Primal lifestyle I added in or adjusted to fit my needs for an even healthier style of living. I used N=1 to discover how I reacted to these particular items and decreased or eliminated based on my personal results.

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20519 · April 17, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Perhaps I phrased incorrectly. These are things that when I adopted the Paleo/Primal lifestyle I added in or adjusted to fit my needs for an even healthier style of living. I used N=1 to discover how I reacted to these particular items, as they seemed to be the culprits for both good/bad, and decreased or eliminated based on my personal results.

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20519 · April 17, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Perhaps I phrased incorrectly. These are things that when I transitioned into the Paleo/Primal lifestyle I added in or adjusted to fit my needs for an even healthier style of living. I used N=1 to discover how I reacted to these particular items, as they seemed to be the culprits for both good/bad, and adopted/decreased/eliminated based on my personal results

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6229 · April 17, 2012 at 5:04 PM

One can learn a lot in the course of a year in n=1 and n=2 experiments ...

Background: The hubby and I tried low carb Paleo in fall 2010 and felt great initially (till about April 2011) and then not so good. We increased carbs from about June 2010 while changing supplements but found inflammation symptoms (as well as weight gain in the abdominal area) creeping up on higher carb so we shifted back to lower carb in mid-March 2012. The decrease in inflammation was immediate (2-3 days) and obvious post-work out when there was almost no muscle soreness.

Our blood numbers were "fine," on both lower and higher carb Primal but we felt quite different - proof we are more then blood numbers! I wish we could say it was only the carbs or only the supplements but I think the 2 helped together. I was slowly switching us to more appropriate supplements (about 1 new one per month) in the past year and noticed a big difference with magnesium, iodine/selenium, and Vitamin C but the weight loss in the abdominal area did not change until the carbs were dropped!

We feel a lot better then we tried the first time in fall 2010! Since initially trying low carb then in 2010 and now in 2012 we have both learned a lot!

Then in Fall 2010: NO trace minerals including selenium!

1) Crappy multivitamin (Dr. D'adamo) with folic acid NOT FOLATE

2) Citracal calcium 2 tabs/day

3) Carlson Cod Liver Oil (lemon) 2 tsp/day

4) Vitamin C 500-1000 mg/day

NOW in 2012: raw dairy, bone broths

1) Douglas Labs B Complex with Metfolin/1 tablet/day

Thiamine (Vitamin B-1, as Thiamine HCI)..... 50 mg 3,333%

Riboflavin.......................................................20 mg 1,176%

(Vitamin B-2, Riboflavin-5-Phosphate)

Niacin ( Vitamin B-3, as Niacinamide)........... 50 mg 250%

Vitamin B-6 (as Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate)....... 20 mg 1,000%

Folate (as L-methylfolate, Metafolin??) ....... 400 mcg 100%

Vitamin B-12 (as methylcobalamin) .......... 500 mcg 8,333%

Biotin .........................................................300 mcg 100%

Pantothenic Acid........................................... 50 mg 500%

(Vitamin B-5, as d-calcium pantothenate) Intrinsic Factor (from porcine) ....................... 20 mg *

2) Thorne Trace minerals (1-2 caps/day)

Zinc (as Zinc Citrate) 15 mg.

Selenium (as Selenium Citrate) 100 mcg.

Manganese (as Manganese Citrate) 2.5 mg.

Chromium (as Chromium Citrate) 100 mcg.

Molybdenum (as Molybdenum Citrate) 50 mcg.

Boron (as Boron Citrate) 700 mcg.

3) NOW Zinc Picolinate 50 mg/tablet

4) NOW 150 mcg Kelp (Iodine)/tablet (4 tabs pp/day for a total of 600 mcg)

5) Green Pastures FCLO (Fermented Cod Liver Oil) 2 tsp (when not eating sardines/salmon) and 2 tsp FBO (Fermented Butter Oil)

6) KAL Magnesium Orotate 200 mg/2 tablets daily (hubby takes 4 tabs for 400 mg, I take 3 for 300 mg)

7) Carlson Bison Capsules or Radiant Life Liver Capsules 6 caps/day pp when not eating liver

8) Nature's Way Vitamin C 1000 mg (hubby take 6-8 caps over the day for 6000-8000 mg, I take 4-6 caps for 4000-6000 mg)

9) NOW Kelp 150 mcg/tab (4 caps or 600 mcg/day)

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143 · April 17, 2012 at 5:07 PM

That's a detailed list :) Isn't fat around the abdominal area usually associated with hormonal issues (like insulin sensitivity, cortisol) more than just carb intake?

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8757 · April 17, 2012 at 4:43 PM

1) I can improve my digestion issue through diet and I can IF and feel good!

2) I can feel better in general through diet, it can be my own version of healthy eating not some trendy diet of the moment.

3) I can drop weight/gain weight at will through diet, I do have a metabolism after all!

4) I can tolerate dairy but feel better without it

5) I can't tolerate high amounts of fat, even good fats!

6) I figured out FODMAPS and night shades are not my friends!

7) I finally learned about nutrition and real foods, something we never learned about at home, growing up in a boxed, canned, processed environment and always being a chubby kid

8) I learned about Primal, Paleo and GAPS/healing through all you fine people!

9) I finally understand why I have all these food allergies and digestive issues and I'm fixing it! and not with much help from traditional medical industry which was just taking all my money and leaving me desperate and confused for the past 8 years...and no its not all in my head!

10) I learned to eat when hungry and I'm still learning to 'chew' my food rather than scarf it down in a hurry...something I must unlearn even after 1+ year of trying!!

11) need to rotate my foods!

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547 · April 17, 2012 at 4:50 PM

I claimed no intolerances but now I read your list, I question high fat too. At one point I experimented with 60+% GOOD fats. Maybe just coincidence but I had major breakouts during that time. Hmmm.

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20 · April 17, 2012 at 4:13 PM

@kokov, try cookie dough larabars when you get a "cheat" craving. they really taste like cookie dough, are paleo friendly, and are only 210 cals!

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143 · April 17, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Thanks for the tip! When I'm cheating, which is rare, I still go for the good, "real" stuff. You have to live a little :)

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2504 · April 17, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Interesting. I'll copy a few of yours. 1) I don't tolerate fruit well at all. 2) Coconut milk is no bueno for me. 3) I can't tolerate a ton of fat. 4) Cabbage, brussels, broccoli, cabbage are not great for me. 5) I really don't need that much food, especially if the food I eat is high quality and has enough calories. 6) The more probiotics, the better. Kefir/kombucha are my big friends. 7) Bone broth is another thing that my body craves. 8) Sleeping with an eye mask makes a huge difference in my sleep quality. 9) I also feel better when I'm slightly hungry.

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Oops! I meant "mind", of course!

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2504 · April 17, 2012 at 9:37 PM

I am fodmap sensitive, so all those cabbage type veggies (along with many fruits + coconut milk) all create yucky growth in my belly, which in turn makes slow digesting foods like fats and proteins get all yucky in my belly too. So I drink a TON of kefir (dairy and water) to try to keep it healthy in there, but I also have to be careful with my timing on fats and FODMAP foods.

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15400 · April 17, 2012 at 4:57 PM

If you do not mine me asking, what fats do you use? As for the cabbage family - could it be because of your gut issues? Do you need probiotics?

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788 · April 18, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Sounds like you have FODMAP Intolerance. Google it if you haven't already. '

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2341 · August 25, 2013 at 6:58 PM

I definitely agree with ditching the nuts and seeds. I can tolerate them in small quantities but I ALWAYS end up on a crazy binge. I find almonds to be be especially troublesome...I can eat a couple pounds in a week.

Here's my top 5

  1. salt is not evil
  2. eat more carbs: especially when lifting weights
  3. Leafy Greens in moderation: I suspected them of giving me hypothyroid symptoms
  4. Less eggs (they don't seem to fill me up, I might be allergic)
  5. More animal fat
  6. I have to avoid nuts and seeds, or else I'll lose my mind
  7. Working out after fasting has its benefits
  8. Avoid wheat, sugar, and dairy all costs...Whenever I give in just a little bit I end up binging later.

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78422 · April 18, 2012 at 8:56 PM

1) "Safe starches" are "unsafe" for me. LOL.
2) I seem to have no requirement for carbs. Reducing carbs has always benefitted me to where I am not at the point that I am almost zero carb (Just the carbs in small portions of leafy veg).
3) Reducing protein has benefitted me.
4) Increasing fat in my diet has always benefitted me and I'm now eating very high fat.
5) I can eat a very large breakfast and not be hungry for 5-6 hours but it makes me feel sluggish and uncomfortable for the first hour. 6) I feel better starting off the day with an empty stomach and eating when I'm actually hungry (About mid morning).
7) I can work out very hard if I train early in the morining, or if it's later in the day, I can train very hard if I start the workout just as the hunger pangs start.

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