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Vegetarian Paleo diet?

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I've been mostly Paleo for a few months now. I'm not eating any grains, am keeping the sugar way low, not using any of the cheap oils (canola, soy, etc.). I was consuming about a cup of grass-fed raw milk almost every day for the past couple of weeks. It didn't nearly bother me as much as pasteurized organic milk or cheese from the store (which caused morning congestion), but I'm still not sure exactly how healthy dairy is in one's diet, so I'm going to take a break from that for a little while to see what happens.

I am currently eating meat, mainly free range poultry, wild caught fish, and every once in a while some grass-fed red meat, in addition to at least one organic egg per day. I'm also currently taking Carlson's Cod Liver Oil for vitamin D and omega-3.

I've been a gluten-free vegan before, but I found I just wasn't getting enough nutrition (blacking out when I got up, lack of energy, no menstruation, etc.). Then I found the Paleo/Primal diet, which has been really great for me. I have a lot more energy and motivation to exercise. I've never really had any big health issues or problems with my weight (I am slightly underweight and thin & lean, and have always been than way). I'm not a big eater, but I love cooking. I would eventually like to transition to a grain-free vegetarian diet, though. I know this question has been asked before, but I was wondering what the current opinion would be. My reasons for wanting to try this would be mainly ethical. I wouldn't want to have an animal slaughtered if I could help it, because I love and have great compassion for all animals.

So, that begs the question, would a vegetarian Paleo diet work?

Protein: Protein being for the most part pastured organic eggs (would 2-3 eggs a day be a lot?), maybe hemp protein or some raw cheeses thrown in there every once in a while. (Is the raw cheese and raw yogurt preferred over straight raw milk if dairy is included? Not sure how healthy it is for a fair amount of the protein to come from milk protein.) Maybe spirulina/chorella powder in green smoothies? I also have trouble when I eat too many nuts, (plus they are high omega-6 anyway) so additionally some almonds as an occasional snack.

Omegas: For whatever reason, the omega-3/omega-6 ratio is REALLY important to me. Ideally, I would want to have say, double 3 than 6. I found this supplement, derived from algae (thoughts?): http://www.allvitaminsplus.com/895634000362.html

Misc: Then of course plenty of organic green veggies, small amounts of berries, coconut milk, cooking with: butter, ghee, coconut oil or pure olive oil. I eat lots of salads, and love baking with coconut flour which of course requires eggs. If I want something sweet that's quick and easy, I usually go for a piece of dark chocolate. I use stevia frequently followed by small amounts of honey or pure maple syrup.

I don't want to eat any of the "seed-like grains" if possible, and same goes for beans - they just seem like not the healthiest sources of protein that just act like fillers in the diet. My main goal here, just like anyone else's, is to live the longest, healthiest, happiest life possible through optimal nutrition and lifestyle choices.

Any help or thoughts would be greatly appreciated...I know how experienced some of you are in the Paleo/Primal lifestyle. Thanks so much!

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11697 · January 11, 2013 at 1:17 AM

I don't believe that an all-vegetarian diet can ever be Paleo or get from Paleo's full health benefits, but you can approximate it if you make a few sacrifices and add A FEW milk/fish/broth foods in it. I have detailed all that here: http://eugenia.queru.com/2013/01/10/tips-for-a-somewhat-vegetarian-paleo-diet/

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346 · October 04, 2011 at 11:52 AM

v-pure.com is a reputable source of algae omega 3 which I used to use myself. It's expensive though.

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16131 · September 12, 2011 at 1:32 PM

It is so clear to me why we have been put in these roles. We so deliciously leptin sensitive and as a result are the most fecund. Here's a poem for you "Love is find in hot tube. I think that she can be poisonous like insulin. It's lovely that people should love.Those who kepp relaxed with one another, if they fight say ' Please. A little less love and a little more leptin senitivity."

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1187 · September 12, 2011 at 11:55 AM

no, the question is about vegetarian, not wearing loin cloth and killing with a spear, it was meat vs. no meat.

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 11:20 AM

@Mer - Why have the two most immature of the family (you and me) been turned into the patriarch and matriarch. I am the bastard child of a 100 men.

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 11:18 AM

@Guest - please see the link I included at the top of my post and it has everything in there except my astrological sign (Gemini). Here it is for you again - http://paleohacks.com/questions/56799/mingers-talk-why-cant-we-all-get-along-similarities-between-veggies-and-paleo/56864#56864

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 11:17 AM

@Guest - please the link I included at the top of my post and it has everything in there except my astrological sign (Gemini). Here it is for you again - http://paleohacks.com/questions/56799/mingers-talk-why-cant-we-all-get-along-similarities-between-veggies-and-paleo/56864#56864

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78422 · September 12, 2011 at 9:49 AM

wonderful beloved sister. thank you.very much.

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5853 · September 12, 2011 at 6:01 AM

And if you live in a large city with good fish mongers, get to know them and i bet you could be able to source some whole fish livers. Atleast the canned kind of whole cod liver is absolutely delicious and doesnt taste like liver at all or like cod liver oil (thank god :D)

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5853 · September 12, 2011 at 5:53 AM

Fish roe is great for fixing omega ratio. I buy whole baltic herring or smelt and its about 2-3eur/kg and when in season i would net about 100grams of roe. That will take care of the omegas for sure ;) Seems to be very undervalued food among paleos. Not much talk about it.

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24271 · September 12, 2011 at 3:42 AM

You are right Juvysen! I should have said formation or creation or something like that.

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56616 · September 12, 2011 at 3:41 AM

and GIve it to me raw? Great sources bro :) And I did give a comment.

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24271 · September 12, 2011 at 3:39 AM

saiklon that seriously made me bust a gut. Hilarious!

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131 · September 12, 2011 at 3:39 AM

Aravind, yep I know! Like you've said in your other posts, the veg. take on the Paleo diet isn't optimal, but miles healthier than the SAD. If you don't mind me asking, are you refraining from eating meat for ethical or religious reasons, or...?

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7540 · September 12, 2011 at 3:36 AM

I also downvoted because seriously, an anthropology study from 1979? Also because you didn't really address the OP's question at all.

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16131 · September 12, 2011 at 3:16 AM

Well. lover, this is quite comprehensive. You've been neglecting your Luckybastard son and Kamal son in law. He is hiding in the closet shivering. He fears your return!

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5531 · September 12, 2011 at 3:14 AM

One of the toughest things to convince people is the fact that white rice is actually the healthier version. Thanks for emphasizing that!

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5531 · September 12, 2011 at 3:11 AM

I'm admittedly biased because I think meat is delicious and necessary for a healthy diet but thanks for helping me better understand the egg issue. +1's all around!

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 3:07 AM

@Guest - I want to be clear that I believe that eating some amount of meat, particularly organ meat, is good for you. But obviously I am not walking my talk. Just want to state that for record. I'm happy to support you with this since I've walked many miles in these shoes now!

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494 · September 12, 2011 at 3:02 AM

Great list, Aravind! Thanks for posting it.

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131 · September 12, 2011 at 3:00 AM

Thank you so much, again! I can say so far, I've accomplished the majority of the steps you've shared. Again, I am currently still eating some pastured meats, but I definitely want to transition to a Paleo version of the ovo-lacto-vegetarian diet in the near future. Thanks!

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78422 · September 12, 2011 at 2:59 AM

please give a coment for the downvote?

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15226 · September 12, 2011 at 2:51 AM

That's really funny. I'm sorry I didn't get to meet you guys at AHS... next year I'll make sure I'm more social.

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 2:48 AM

Yes I consume full fat dairy regularly. I just edited my post to give you my thoughts of food selection. I eat a lot of home-cooked Indian food made by my mommy. Tough to describe but I could talk to you offline if you want

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12847 · September 12, 2011 at 2:39 AM

so in other words unless you eat %100 wild and literally hunt/gather your not paleo

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131 · September 12, 2011 at 2:27 AM

Wow, thanks for your reply! Do you have any brief examples of meals that you like to cook that you could share? And also, do you consume raw full fat dairy regularly?

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110 · September 12, 2011 at 2:20 AM

most eggs are unfertilized, so it's not so much "conception". Basically, just as a human passes an unfertilized egg every month if not pregnant, a chicken does so daily.

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1457 · September 12, 2011 at 2:18 AM

Maybe he/she could eat salmon roe instead since he/she is a vegetarian and all? Its like the eggs of the ocean... they just kind of kill the fish a little to get them though.

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131 · September 12, 2011 at 2:08 AM

Yeah, I guess it's just the residual media propaganda about how too many eggs are bad for you. When I read the "Nutrition" Facts on the carton, it's kind of like, okay, is more than one egg a day actually healthy? But then again, here's where it all the "nutrition" info comes from: http://www.fda.gov/food/labelingnutrition/consumerinformation/ucm078889.htm#twoparts And regarding the omegas, I think I may have gotten confused reading up all about the bad rap omega-6 gets on inflammation...I knew it was 2:1 something, but I see it now. Thanks!

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56616 · September 12, 2011 at 2:08 AM

that's from 1979, I can assure you that anthropology has advanced since then

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 2:04 AM

Thanks Jeff. Not officially back until September 16th. I was actually checking up on Kamal to see how badly he's been cheating on our Low Tech Reward portion of the experiment, saw this post, and decided I should probably respond. Ok, back into hibernation...

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15226 · September 12, 2011 at 1:40 AM

welcome back Aravind!

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 1:18 AM

I completely agree with the terminology issues of vegetarianism. I call myself a vegetarian so as to use terminology that is commonly understood. To me, you are a vegan or eat animal products. Shades of grey within the animal world are of much less consequence than the complete abstinence from animal products.

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 1:15 AM

BTW - I don't favor hyper supplementation of Omega 3, but rather O-6 reduction. To each their own.

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 1:15 AM

BTW - I don't believe in hyper supplementation of Omega 3, but rather favor O-6 reduction. To each their own

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1457 · September 12, 2011 at 1:08 AM

Killing a wild animal and eating it is much more natural (and healthy) for both creatures involved than impregnating it and then continuing to milk it for the rest of its life in captivity and then killing it when you are done to give to someone who doesn't care about the animal's "welfare." P.S. that rant was about milk

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24271 · September 12, 2011 at 12:59 AM

No animal was killed. Unless of course you believe that chicken life begins at conception. Then yeah you're kinda screwed on the egg thing.

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6889 · September 12, 2011 at 12:56 AM

Many vegetarians will not eat animals, but will eat animal products (milk, eggs, honey, etc) because an animal product does not harm the animal. A vegan, however, will not eat any of it. That (generally) tends to be the difference.

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 1:12 AM

I guess it depends upon your definition of "works". To avoid retyping a boatload, you can check out this link for my 2 cents since I am a lacto-ovo eater that follows an Ancestral approach to my eating.

The short version of the above link -

As per the Archevore approach, my definition of a Paleo diet has been primarily based on avoiding the ubiquitous Neolithic Agents of Disease

  • Avoidance of grains (excluding white rice as a ???safe starch???)
  • Avoidance of excess fructose
  • Avoidance of excess linoleic acid (Omega 6 from vegetable oils)
  • Avoidance of soy (limited inclusion of legumes that are prepared in a way that Stephan Guyenet and Weston Price would approve)

Optimal...no. Better than SAD...absolutely!

Cheers, Aravind


EDIT - Since "Guest" asked about specifics of what I eat, I decided to expand my answer. Here's what I wrote on Facebook for the International Paleo Movement Group regarding "Vegetarian Paleo Notes" - http://www.facebook.com/groups/116409718456748/doc/119210618176658/

In case you cannot access the FB group, here is the text -

I am a Lacto-Ovo Archevore (http://www.archevore.com/get-started/) with a hint of Perfect Health Diet (http://perfecthealthdiet.com/). Stephan Guyenet (http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/) has been a HUGE influence.

Archevore 12 steps with my vegetarian-specific editoral in UPPERCASE

  1. Elminate sugar and all foods that contain flour. CAN BE 100% COMPLIANT AS A VEGETARIAN. NOTE THAT I EMPHATICALLY INCLUDE ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS AS TOXINS TO BE ELIMINATED

  2. Start eating proper (animal) fats - USE BUTTER/GHEE, COCONUT OIL

  3. Eliminate gluten grains. Limit grains like corn and rice, which are nutritionally poor. THE ONLY GRAIN I EAT IS WHITE RICE. YES WHITE RICE IS BETTER THAN BROWN RICE

  4. Eliminate grain and seed derived oils (cooking oils) Cook with Ghee, butter, animal fats, or coconut oil. Use no temperate plant oils like corn, soy, canola, flax, walnut, etc. - USE BUTTER/GHEE, COCONUT OIL

  5. Favor ruminants like beef, lamb and bison for your red meat. EAT PASTURED EGGS (INCLUDING YOLK) AND/OR OCEAN FISH. IF YOU ARE LACTO VEGETARIAN, CLEARLY YOU CANNOT ADHERE TO THIS STEP.

  6. Make sure you are Vitamin D replete. Get daily midday sun or consider supplementation - CAN BE 100% COMPLIANT AS VEGETARIAN

  7. 2 or 3 meals a day is best. Don't graze like a herbivore - CAN BE 100% COMPLIANT AS VEGETARIAN

  8. Attend to your 6s and 3s. Pastured (grass fed) dairy and grass fed beef or bison has a more optimal 6:3 ratio, more vitamins and CLA. If you can't eat enough pastured products, eat plenty of fish. I DO NOT FAVOR (HYPER) SUPPLEMENTATION OF OMEGA-3. MY FOCUS IS THE ELIMINATION OF EXCESS OMEGA-6 VIS-A-VIS VEGETABLE OILS. EVENTUALLY YOUR O-3/O-6 WILL BECOME MORE FAVORABLE.

  9. Get proper exercise - emphasizing resistance and interval training over long aerobic sessions. - CAN BE 100% COMPLIANT AS VEGETARIAN

  10. Most modern fruit is just a candy bar from a tree. Go easy on bags of sugar like apples. Stick with berries and avoid watermelon which is pure fructose. Eat in moderation. If you are not trying to lose fat, a few pieces of fruit a day are fine. FRUIT IS UNESSENTIAL. IF YOU ARE NOT OVERWEIGHT AND LIKE FRUIT AND/OR USE AS POST WORKOUT GLYCOGEN REPLENISHMENT, THEN FINE. I EAT VERY LITTLE FRUIT SINCE GOING PALEO, BUT TO EACH THEIR OWN.

  11. Eliminate legumes - I EAT TRADITIONALLY PREPARED LENTILS (SOAKED, SPROUTED, ETC) EXCLUDING SOY. THERE ARE ENOUGH ISSUES WITH SOY THAT I FEEL IT PRUDENT TO AVOID. IF YOU FEEL OTHERWISE, "SOY BE IT".

  12. If you are allergic to milk protein or concerned about theoretical risks of casein, you can stick to butter and cream and avoid milk and soft cheeses. - I EAT COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF DAIRY. BEYOND BUTTER/GHEE, MY PREFERENCE IS FERMENTED DAIRY FROM RAW SOURCES IF POSSIBLE WITH THE NEXT BEST BEING ORGANIC, LOW TEMP PASTUREIZED. SEVERAL OF THE ALLEGED ISSUES WITH DAIRY APPEAR TO BE CORRELATED WITH GLUTEN. THEREFORE GLUTEN MAY BE THE PRIMARY PROBLEM

Snacks/etc

  • Macadamia nuts. The only nut I will eat given relative great ratios vis-a-vis other nuts. Easy to overeat so beware
  • 85-90% Dark Chocolate. Lindt 90 is my current preference. Source of magnesium. I used to hate dark chocolate since it was too bitter. 85 now tastes sweet! Again, easy to overeat
  • Cheese - Side note, I have mostly eliminated this recently as part of an elimination experiment
  • Fruits - post workout only
  • Salad dressing - I no longer buy dressing from the store. Homemade with natural ingredient and no vegetable oils/soy/etc. And crazy thing - it tastes better!

Dont forget lifestyle changes

  • Adequate sleep
  • Reduce stress. Consider meditation
  • Sex...the best way to reduce cortisol!

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5531 · September 12, 2011 at 3:14 AM

One of the toughest things to convince people is the fact that white rice is actually the healthier version. Thanks for emphasizing that!

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 1:15 AM

BTW - I don't believe in hyper supplementation of Omega 3, but rather favor O-6 reduction. To each their own

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131 · September 12, 2011 at 3:00 AM

Thank you so much, again! I can say so far, I've accomplished the majority of the steps you've shared. Again, I am currently still eating some pastured meats, but I definitely want to transition to a Paleo version of the ovo-lacto-vegetarian diet in the near future. Thanks!

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16131 · September 12, 2011 at 1:32 PM

It is so clear to me why we have been put in these roles. We so deliciously leptin sensitive and as a result are the most fecund. Here's a poem for you "Love is find in hot tube. I think that she can be poisonous like insulin. It's lovely that people should love.Those who kepp relaxed with one another, if they fight say ' Please. A little less love and a little more leptin senitivity."

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15226 · September 12, 2011 at 2:51 AM

That's really funny. I'm sorry I didn't get to meet you guys at AHS... next year I'll make sure I'm more social.

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 11:17 AM

@Guest - please the link I included at the top of my post and it has everything in there except my astrological sign (Gemini). Here it is for you again - http://paleohacks.com/questions/56799/mingers-talk-why-cant-we-all-get-along-similarities-between-veggies-and-paleo/56864#56864

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131 · September 12, 2011 at 3:39 AM

Aravind, yep I know! Like you've said in your other posts, the veg. take on the Paleo diet isn't optimal, but miles healthier than the SAD. If you don't mind me asking, are you refraining from eating meat for ethical or religious reasons, or...?

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 2:48 AM

Yes I consume full fat dairy regularly. I just edited my post to give you my thoughts of food selection. I eat a lot of home-cooked Indian food made by my mommy. Tough to describe but I could talk to you offline if you want

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 2:04 AM

Thanks Jeff. Not officially back until September 16th. I was actually checking up on Kamal to see how badly he's been cheating on our Low Tech Reward portion of the experiment, saw this post, and decided I should probably respond. Ok, back into hibernation...

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 11:18 AM

@Guest - please see the link I included at the top of my post and it has everything in there except my astrological sign (Gemini). Here it is for you again - http://paleohacks.com/questions/56799/mingers-talk-why-cant-we-all-get-along-similarities-between-veggies-and-paleo/56864#56864

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494 · September 12, 2011 at 3:02 AM

Great list, Aravind! Thanks for posting it.

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15226 · September 12, 2011 at 1:40 AM

welcome back Aravind!

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131 · September 12, 2011 at 2:27 AM

Wow, thanks for your reply! Do you have any brief examples of meals that you like to cook that you could share? And also, do you consume raw full fat dairy regularly?

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 3:07 AM

@Guest - I want to be clear that I believe that eating some amount of meat, particularly organ meat, is good for you. But obviously I am not walking my talk. Just want to state that for record. I'm happy to support you with this since I've walked many miles in these shoes now!

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 1:15 AM

BTW - I don't favor hyper supplementation of Omega 3, but rather O-6 reduction. To each their own.

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16131 · September 12, 2011 at 3:16 AM

Well. lover, this is quite comprehensive. You've been neglecting your Luckybastard son and Kamal son in law. He is hiding in the closet shivering. He fears your return!

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 11:20 AM

@Mer - Why have the two most immature of the family (you and me) been turned into the patriarch and matriarch. I am the bastard child of a 100 men.

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15226 · September 12, 2011 at 1:13 AM

2-3 eggs/day is nothing compared to what many people eat. I usually have 5-8.

Not sure why you'd want double the omega 3s as 6s. It doesn't make much sense biologically, 2:1 in favor of 6s seems to be preferred, or at least 1:1.

Omega 6s in and of themselves aren't bad, it's when the proportion gets out of control that it becomes a problem.

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131 · September 12, 2011 at 2:08 AM

Yeah, I guess it's just the residual media propaganda about how too many eggs are bad for you. When I read the "Nutrition" Facts on the carton, it's kind of like, okay, is more than one egg a day actually healthy? But then again, here's where it all the "nutrition" info comes from: http://www.fda.gov/food/labelingnutrition/consumerinformation/ucm078889.htm#twoparts And regarding the omegas, I think I may have gotten confused reading up all about the bad rap omega-6 gets on inflammation...I knew it was 2:1 something, but I see it now. Thanks!

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20353 · September 12, 2011 at 1:54 AM

Eggs are great and the Omega 3 supplement is great. Two huge issues with most veggie diets. It would be good to include Wild Salmon as well...

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5853 · September 12, 2011 at 6:01 AM

And if you live in a large city with good fish mongers, get to know them and i bet you could be able to source some whole fish livers. Atleast the canned kind of whole cod liver is absolutely delicious and doesnt taste like liver at all or like cod liver oil (thank god :D)

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1457 · September 12, 2011 at 2:18 AM

Maybe he/she could eat salmon roe instead since he/she is a vegetarian and all? Its like the eggs of the ocean... they just kind of kill the fish a little to get them though.

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5853 · September 12, 2011 at 5:53 AM

Fish roe is great for fixing omega ratio. I buy whole baltic herring or smelt and its about 2-3eur/kg and when in season i would net about 100grams of roe. That will take care of the omegas for sure ;) Seems to be very undervalued food among paleos. Not much talk about it.

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24271 · September 12, 2011 at 3:39 AM

saiklon that seriously made me bust a gut. Hilarious!

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5531 · September 12, 2011 at 12:50 AM

Am I the only one that can't wrap my head around why eating eggs is considered vegetarian?

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13692 · September 12, 2011 at 1:18 AM

I completely agree with the terminology issues of vegetarianism. I call myself a vegetarian so as to use terminology that is commonly understood. To me, you are a vegan or eat animal products. Shades of grey within the animal world are of much less consequence than the complete abstinence from animal products.

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5531 · September 12, 2011 at 3:11 AM

I'm admittedly biased because I think meat is delicious and necessary for a healthy diet but thanks for helping me better understand the egg issue. +1's all around!

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1457 · September 12, 2011 at 1:08 AM

Killing a wild animal and eating it is much more natural (and healthy) for both creatures involved than impregnating it and then continuing to milk it for the rest of its life in captivity and then killing it when you are done to give to someone who doesn't care about the animal's "welfare." P.S. that rant was about milk

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110 · September 12, 2011 at 2:20 AM

most eggs are unfertilized, so it's not so much "conception". Basically, just as a human passes an unfertilized egg every month if not pregnant, a chicken does so daily.

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24271 · September 12, 2011 at 12:59 AM

No animal was killed. Unless of course you believe that chicken life begins at conception. Then yeah you're kinda screwed on the egg thing.

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6889 · September 12, 2011 at 12:56 AM

Many vegetarians will not eat animals, but will eat animal products (milk, eggs, honey, etc) because an animal product does not harm the animal. A vegan, however, will not eat any of it. That (generally) tends to be the difference.

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24271 · September 12, 2011 at 3:42 AM

You are right Juvysen! I should have said formation or creation or something like that.

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4625 · September 12, 2011 at 5:36 AM

Paleo is Paleo, there is no Veggie or carnivore Paleo. Stop with the labels.

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12847 · September 12, 2011 at 3:31 AM

supplement creatine

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1187 · September 12, 2011 at 1:07 AM

Paleo means eating what was available with the seasons as well as hunting when game was available too. I was a vegetarian for 10 years. (long time ago). Don't shy away from meat.

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1187 · September 12, 2011 at 11:55 AM

no, the question is about vegetarian, not wearing loin cloth and killing with a spear, it was meat vs. no meat.

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12847 · September 12, 2011 at 2:39 AM

so in other words unless you eat %100 wild and literally hunt/gather your not paleo

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1457 · September 12, 2011 at 2:21 AM

What about insects? They are always cut-up in all the grains to some degree anyhow.

Not sure what the market for that is like though...

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78422 · September 12, 2011 at 2:02 AM

http://www.health101.org/art_diet2.htm

Research Yields Surprises about Early Human Diets Teeth Show Fruit Was the Staple

By Boyce Rensberger May 15, 1979 issue of the New York Times


http://www.giveittomeraw.com/forum/topics/early-humans-skipped-fruit?commentId=1407416%3AComment%3A1483715

To cope with these challenges, the scientists believe primates developed different strategies. Gorillas essentially became herbivores, chimps evolved into fruit specialists and hominids became omnivores, which was a wise path to follow.


tarahumara diet

Meat is rarely eaten but on special occasions they eat goat, mice and fish http://www.lehigh.edu/~dmd1/art.html

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56616 · September 12, 2011 at 3:41 AM

and GIve it to me raw? Great sources bro :) And I did give a comment.

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56616 · September 12, 2011 at 2:08 AM

that's from 1979, I can assure you that anthropology has advanced since then

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78422 · September 12, 2011 at 2:59 AM

please give a coment for the downvote?

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78422 · September 12, 2011 at 9:49 AM

wonderful beloved sister. thank you.very much.

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7540 · September 12, 2011 at 3:36 AM

I also downvoted because seriously, an anthropology study from 1979? Also because you didn't really address the OP's question at all.

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