Phytic Acid

Phytic Acid

Phytic Acid Questions

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by 6 · about 14 hours ago

Oats can be fantastic (for those that do not have intolerance). For those who are not sensitive, all the arguments against oats can be countered. *High in phytic acid*. - can be neutralized by soaking in an acidic medium with buckwheat flour... (more)

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Yuki 0 · August 24, 2014 at 4:44 PM

I definitely get a bigger blood sugar spike after eating plain steel cut oats than sweet potatoes. Still not as bad as anything wheat-based. Almonds do very little to raise my blood sugar. That's probably the biggest reason people tout them as... (more)

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by 53 · about 14 hours ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoK_QdVve9EKristina really makes me feel like physic acid and omega 6 ratios and being afraid of nuts is crazy. She is GLOWING! LOOK AT HER! How come she can eat so many nuts, phytic acid, no animal fats and be so... (more)

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CD 0 · August 13, 2014 at 7:14 PM

worry less about what works for other people -- and more about what works for you.

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by 1005 · about 14 hours ago

many of us in the paleosphere are familliar with how diets high in phytic acid are bad, and last semester in order to actually stay focused on my homework I ate tons of chocolate and chocolate dipped nuts in order to bribe my brain to stay focused... (more)

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glib 0 · August 12, 2014 at 6:39 PM

the original connection between civilization foods and tooth decay was done by Price. I do believe that the identification of phytates, as the mineral sequestering agent, came later and is based on peer reviewed . But it could also be gluten,... (more)

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by 598 · about 14 hours ago

Fully embracing the paleo diet, every time I come across this sort of study or article I get a heavy, worried feeling like "what if we're all off our rockers" lol... Whole grains seem to have a lot going for... (more)

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AlmostFullyPaleo 0 · July 21, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Like the other posters said, whole grains are just a certain type of fiber. You can get fiber from more healthful, paleo sources like potatoes, yams, and other starchy tubers (I eat white sushi rice as well and love it). If you stick to paleo... (more)

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by 0 · about 14 hours ago

Other than bad quality unshelled walnuts, it's pretty hard to find nuts where I live. Especially nuts like macadamia, cashews, etc, I have yet to find raw or unshelled at all. So I would like to ask the paleo connoisseurs here, if soaking roasted... (more)

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raydawg 0 · July 19, 2014 at 10:07 PM

You won't find free phytates in foods, they're already bound to minerals. It's probably pointless to soak nuts if they're already roasted.

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by 0 · about 14 hours ago

Are nuts important to buy organic? I only eat a handful of raw brazil and mac nuts daily, but can't find organic ones, so I get them from the grocery store.. Bad?

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samanthaalys 0 · June 14, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Try for raw nuts that you can soak/dehydrate/sprout at home. Soaking of the nuts helps in decreasing phytic acid present in the nuts, which helps in improving nutrient uptake and digestibility. I personally have experienced that soaking helps... (more)

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by 2302 · about 14 hours ago

I have read that Brazil Nuts do not need to be soaked (despite being the highest in phytic acid). I recently started eating 2 per day for Selenium and it would be easy to toss them in some salt water in the morning or night before to let them... (more)

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Matt_11 0 · April 12, 2014 at 11:04 AM

You know you're close to the crazy line when you worry about whether two nuts need to be soaked and dehydrated… because phytates! Phytates really are only an issue when a staple food contains a lot, and you're eating a very restricted diet.... (more)

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by 0 · about 14 hours ago

I have white spots under my fingernails. I use cronometer and it shows that I take in about 16.5mg of Zinc dailyfrom beef .. but I eat it with white rice which contains phytic acid (albeit small amounts) and about 1mg of copper... (more)

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raydawg 0 · April 07, 2014 at 7:51 PM

Try a zinc tally test. May not be perfect, but it seems to work. I bought some from amazon, shake the bottle, put one drop on your tongue and swish it around. If it takes like water, you need more zinc. The stronger the taste (to the point... (more)

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by 0 · about 14 hours ago

The gist of my question: how are nuts/seeds justifiably paleo (as a significant caloric source)? Many nuts and seeds have more antinutrients than grains do, especially in phytic acid content. They are also in the same boat as grains in that... (more)

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wtfgod 0 · March 24, 2014 at 10:19 PM

Not too educated on the topic, but here's my two cents. Isn't there something wrong with every food? Quite a few foods have phytic acid, oxalic acid, gluten, phenoestrogens, ect... If one was to eliminate any food with anything wrong... (more)

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by 15 · about 14 hours ago

I found an article about pigs being supplemented with phytase and came to the conclusion that phytase from white flour could counterbalance the phytic acid in nuts making nuts less harmfull? so would that mean if you ate white bread before eating... (more)

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BGottfried 0 · July 03, 2013 at 2:45 PM

The important thing to consider is that phytase is an enzyme and thus has specific conditions under which it will actually break down phytic acid. A full write-up on phytase can be found... (more)

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by 15 · about 14 hours ago

Or is the phytase unable to work on other foods phytic acid? example, combining white flour - high phytase with nuts - high phytic acid

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CD 0 · June 27, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Generally speaking there is limited evidence that phytase naturally found in food (like wheat) can be properly utilized by humans to breakdown phytic acid. Thus people learned to develop ways of soaking and sprouting grains and seeds to make them... (more)

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by 3280 · about 14 hours ago

I'm trying to get up to speed on phytic acid and I'm still confused: If you eat almonds, is the problem that: phytic acid binds to the minerals in the almond and prevents the almond's minerals from being absorbed, or the phytic acid also... (more)

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greymouser 0 · May 10, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Let's see if I can elucidate a bit. Phytic acid binds phosphorous (the phytate part of the molecule) - it is literally comprised of phorphorous, which renders it unusable to humans. Phytic acid chelates other minerals - meaning, that it "traps"... (more)

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by 1600 · about 14 hours ago

Not entirely in bone broth that would be a waste... but do you think adding a bit would counteract the mineral leeching effect of phytic acid? *Just to be clear- I am talking about brown rice PASTA only. On the rare occasions I do make rice I... (more)

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glib 0 · April 20, 2013 at 3:10 AM

Traditionally over large areas of the world phytates would be counteracted by the even stronger acids of fruits. Hence, the dietary norm of finishing a meal with a fruit (apples have a pH of about 3.3), dressing greens with vinegar (pH=2.8), or... (more)

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by 3280 · about 14 hours ago

I'm really not sure my problem is electrolyte balance (though for some reason I keep coming back it this hypothesis), and I'm kinda grasping a straws here but: Twice recently, I went from feeling great to severe systemic muscle cramps (calves,... (more)

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Lesley_1 0 · February 18, 2013 at 12:45 AM

Hi CaveMan_Mike, I've battled with cramping, too. I can't speak to your question on Kale, but I can share what's killed my cramping problem. I've found three things to be helpful on this front: taking a daily magnesium supplement, eating quality... (more)

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by 1021 · about 14 hours ago

i am going to transform my entire backyard into a microfarm next spring in order to cut food costs. i would like to grow some calorie dense crops, so im womdering out of all the known grains (including less popular ones like buckwheat), what is... (more)

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Jackie_4 0 · December 23, 2012 at 6:00 AM

I grew up on a small farm and grains can actually be a huge pain to grow. You need to invest in specialized equipment and be prepared to thresh! If you really want a grain, I would go with corn (easy harvest) or with legumes, since beans and... (more)

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by 570 · about 15 hours ago

I have heard that dark chocolate has lots of magnesium. I have heard that dark chocolate has lots of phytic acid. Doesn't the one counteract the other or am I wrong on one of these points? Thanks for your help!

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Flip_2 0 · July 21, 2012 at 2:57 PM

I would not rely on "pleasure foods" as nutrient staples. Red Wine, coffee, dark chocolate, honey and such sould be consumed as a comfort option, rather than a daily source of anything. Just as in the same fashion as always, the key is "rotation,... (more)

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by 313 · about 15 hours ago

I was wondering if germinating seeds results in the reduction of some minerals, including magnesium and potassium, since these minerals are water soluble. I know it is said the vitamin content increases but I do not hear much about the mineral... (more)

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by 313 · about 15 hours ago

If I made my own rice milk, with brown rice, or if I bought some, a good organic brand with ingredients I am comfortable with of course, would it contain a significant amount of phytic acid? I know a good amount of phytic acid is supposedly... (more)

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dav 0 · December 12, 2011 at 10:43 AM

Water doesn't "break down" phytic acid. The affected minerals - zinc, iron, calcium and others - are insoluble when bound to phytate. Boiling does not generally raise the temperature of these mineral phytates sufficiently to break their bonds;... (more)

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by 20411 · about 15 hours ago

See "Is phytate really a problem?" by Lucas Tafur: http://www.lucastafur.com/2011/10/is-phytate-really-problem.html "The dangers of phytic acid have been overestimated. Contrary to popular the paleo belief, phytic acid might be beneficial in... (more)

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Lucas_Tafur 0 · November 30, 2011 at 1:11 AM

raydawg said: Since we know that grains such as wheat cause leaky gut and therefore autoimmune issues, the statement that "but we cant also conclude that whole-grains are unhealthy" is clearly incorrect. This theory is too simplistic to... (more)

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by 480 · about 15 hours ago

I've seen posts about phytic acid - with people arguing both points. People seem to almost unanimously denounce phytic acid, but others cite sources and have some agreement that any method to control long term iron aborbtion would be beneficial to... (more)

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Anonymous_Chump 0 · November 29, 2011 at 1:56 AM

Don Matesz has an interesting take on it: http://donmatesz.blogspot.com/2011/10/phytate-facts.html "I have never seen any evidence that dietary phytate causes mineral deficiencies except in the context of overall poor quality diet, such as... (more)

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by 385 · about 15 hours ago

So I am an environmental educator at a residential facility. All of the food is already prepared. I avoid most of the grains (and nuts, really), but have found that it is difficult to be purely paleo (vegetable oils). Given that I am lacking... (more)

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Jack_Kronk 0 · September 28, 2011 at 2:54 PM

I don't think eating phytase along with phytates counterbalance each other in that way. You can add a phytase containing item (like buckwheat flour) to a phytate containing item (like oats) to neutralize it during fermentation, but I've never... (more)

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by 1159 · about 15 hours ago

In the Paleosphere there is this recommendation to supplement Magnesium based on the fact that soils are depleted and it's hard to achieve the RDA. There is also this general consensus that if one follows a diet low in Phytic Acid there is no need... (more)

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No_more_ 0 · August 23, 2011 at 5:08 PM

Magnesium is a part of the paleo plot for reducing the amount of necessary calcium. Cellular calcium levels are regulated in large part by magnesium. Magnesium shuttles excess calcium out of the cell inorder to prevent calcification. WAPF has a... (more)

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by 1811 · about 15 hours ago

Although I'm a committed Paleo eater, I've recently gotten to thinking... Historically, could a certain amount of phytic acid have made sense in a diet that included high levels of minerals (like the Paleo diet)? Granted, eating something like a... (more)

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Primordial 0 · December 12, 2011 at 6:39 PM

It seems the only problem is too much iron. I don't know of any other mineral which is harmful in bigger amounts when consuming a diet without much phytic acid. This is the hypothesis about the "adaptive response": The high incidence of HH... (more)

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by 12847 · about 15 hours ago

White rice is touted to be basically pure starch by Paul Jaminet on the basis that asain people eat it so it must be healthy right? But it's not pure starch, it is a refined grain that most asain people haven't been eating that long. ... (more)

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Jack_Kronk 0 · June 22, 2011 at 5:15 PM

I'm sorry but I have to play on the side that there are greater things to worry about than the small amount of phytic acid in white rice. We avoid so much phytic acid eating Paleo as it is. Most people get far higher levels with all their whole... (more)

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by 15 · about 15 hours ago

I can't seem to find a list of the phytic acid content in various foods (wheat, barley, quinoa, corn, black beans, red beans, lentils, almonds, walnuts, etc etc etc). I'm basically looking for a list of all the grains, legumes, seeds and nuts and... (more)

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FED_at_LiveCaveman_com 0 · May 30, 2011 at 10:23 PM

From phyticacid.org... Phytic acid in an assortment of grains: Barley infant cereal: 897 mg/100 grams Mixed grain cereal: 510 mg/100 grams Wheat bran muffin: 498 mg/100 grams Oatmeal: 943 mg/100 grams Wheat bran: 3,011 mg/100... (more)

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