Phytic Acid

Phytic Acid

Phytic Acid Questions

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by 6 · about 11 hours ago

Oats can be fantastic (for those that do not have intolerance). For those who are not sensitive, all the arguments against oats can be countered. *High in phytic acid*. - can be neutralized by soaking in an acidic medium with buckwheat flour... (more)

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Yuki 0 · August 24, 2014 at 4:44 PM

I definitely get a bigger blood sugar spike after eating plain steel cut oats than sweet potatoes. Still not as bad as anything wheat-based. Almonds do very little to raise my blood sugar. That's probably the biggest reason people tout them as... (more)

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by 1005 · about 11 hours ago

many of us in the paleosphere are familliar with how diets high in phytic acid are bad, and last semester in order to actually stay focused on my homework I ate tons of chocolate and chocolate dipped nuts in order to bribe my brain to stay focused... (more)

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glib 0 · August 12, 2014 at 6:39 PM

the original connection between civilization foods and tooth decay was done by Price. I do believe that the identification of phytates, as the mineral sequestering agent, came later and is based on peer reviewed . But it could also be gluten,... (more)

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by 0 · about 11 hours ago

I have white spots under my fingernails. I use cronometer and it shows that I take in about 16.5mg of Zinc dailyfrom beef .. but I eat it with white rice which contains phytic acid (albeit small amounts) and about 1mg of copper... (more)

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raydawg 0 · April 07, 2014 at 7:51 PM

Try a zinc tally test. May not be perfect, but it seems to work. I bought some from amazon, shake the bottle, put one drop on your tongue and swish it around. If it takes like water, you need more zinc. The stronger the taste (to the point... (more)

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by 15 · about 11 hours ago

I found an article about pigs being supplemented with phytase and came to the conclusion that phytase from white flour could counterbalance the phytic acid in nuts making nuts less harmfull? so would that mean if you ate white bread before eating... (more)

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BGottfried 0 · July 03, 2013 at 2:45 PM

The important thing to consider is that phytase is an enzyme and thus has specific conditions under which it will actually break down phytic acid. A full write-up on phytase can be found... (more)

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by 15 · about 11 hours ago

Or is the phytase unable to work on other foods phytic acid? example, combining white flour - high phytase with nuts - high phytic acid

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CD 0 · June 27, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Generally speaking there is limited evidence that phytase naturally found in food (like wheat) can be properly utilized by humans to breakdown phytic acid. Thus people learned to develop ways of soaking and sprouting grains and seeds to make them... (more)

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by 3280 · about 11 hours ago

My chiropractor (with 38 years of experience) is adamant that my muscle cramping & twitching is from low calcium, and not now magnesium. Last year when I ruled out deficiencies of calcium & magnesium, I did so using pills. My doc asked:... (more)

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CaveMan_Mike 0 · July 11, 2013 at 8:20 PM

The high calcium doesn't doesn't seem to be the solution for my muscle cramping, edema, headache. I'm still experimenting, but the oxalates seem high on the suspect list. Mike

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by 3280 · about 11 hours ago

I'm trying to get up to speed on phytic acid and I'm still confused: If you eat almonds, is the problem that: phytic acid binds to the minerals in the almond and prevents the almond's minerals from being absorbed, or the phytic acid also... (more)

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greymouser 0 · May 10, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Let's see if I can elucidate a bit. Phytic acid binds phosphorous (the phytate part of the molecule) - it is literally comprised of phorphorous, which renders it unusable to humans. Phytic acid chelates other minerals - meaning, that it "traps"... (more)

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by 1600 · about 11 hours ago

Not entirely in bone broth that would be a waste... but do you think adding a bit would counteract the mineral leeching effect of phytic acid? *Just to be clear- I am talking about brown rice PASTA only. On the rare occasions I do make rice I... (more)

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glib 0 · April 20, 2013 at 3:10 AM

Traditionally over large areas of the world phytates would be counteracted by the even stronger acids of fruits. Hence, the dietary norm of finishing a meal with a fruit (apples have a pH of about 3.3), dressing greens with vinegar (pH=2.8), or... (more)

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by 1772 · about 12 hours ago

I know that similar but not exact questions have been asked before, but I would like some fresh perspective. I average about a handful of almonds a day. Sometimes I feel like they make a good snack or can round out a meal nicely. The rest of my... (more)

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Travis_Culp 0 · March 19, 2013 at 5:55 PM

No, don't listen to the scare tactics. Nuts like almonds are a great source of nutrition (especially magnesium and vitamin E, which are pretty scarce in most diets). Anyone who likes nuts and isn't allergic should eat a lot of them. In general,... (more)

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by 571 · about 12 hours ago

Does phytic acid bind to all the minerals, including magnesium? I eat about 30 grams of toasted wheat bran per day and I was wondering whether I actually absorb the supposed 180 mg of magnesium in it.

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Mscott 0 · February 07, 2013 at 6:55 AM

You definitely won't absorb all of the magnesium, but you'll absorb some of it. However, you may end up increasing your excretion of other minerals and possibly vitamins, even ones not in the bran (see links below). That's the insoluble fiber and... (more)

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by 570 · about 12 hours ago

I have heard that dark chocolate has lots of magnesium. I have heard that dark chocolate has lots of phytic acid. Doesn't the one counteract the other or am I wrong on one of these points? Thanks for your help!

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Flip_2 0 · July 21, 2012 at 2:57 PM

I would not rely on "pleasure foods" as nutrient staples. Red Wine, coffee, dark chocolate, honey and such sould be consumed as a comfort option, rather than a daily source of anything. Just as in the same fashion as always, the key is "rotation,... (more)

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by 313 · about 12 hours ago

I was wondering if germinating seeds results in the reduction of some minerals, including magnesium and potassium, since these minerals are water soluble. I know it is said the vitamin content increases but I do not hear much about the mineral... (more)

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by 313 · about 12 hours ago

If I made my own rice milk, with brown rice, or if I bought some, a good organic brand with ingredients I am comfortable with of course, would it contain a significant amount of phytic acid? I know a good amount of phytic acid is supposedly... (more)

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dav 0 · December 12, 2011 at 10:43 AM

Water doesn't "break down" phytic acid. The affected minerals - zinc, iron, calcium and others - are insoluble when bound to phytate. Boiling does not generally raise the temperature of these mineral phytates sufficiently to break their bonds;... (more)

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by 20411 · about 12 hours ago

See "Is phytate really a problem?" by Lucas Tafur: http://www.lucastafur.com/2011/10/is-phytate-really-problem.html "The dangers of phytic acid have been overestimated. Contrary to popular the paleo belief, phytic acid might be beneficial in... (more)

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Lucas_Tafur 0 · November 30, 2011 at 1:11 AM

raydawg said: Since we know that grains such as wheat cause leaky gut and therefore autoimmune issues, the statement that "but we cant also conclude that whole-grains are unhealthy" is clearly incorrect. This theory is too simplistic to... (more)

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by 480 · about 12 hours ago

I've seen posts about phytic acid - with people arguing both points. People seem to almost unanimously denounce phytic acid, but others cite sources and have some agreement that any method to control long term iron aborbtion would be beneficial to... (more)

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Anonymous_Chump 0 · November 29, 2011 at 1:56 AM

Don Matesz has an interesting take on it: http://donmatesz.blogspot.com/2011/10/phytate-facts.html "I have never seen any evidence that dietary phytate causes mineral deficiencies except in the context of overall poor quality diet, such as... (more)

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by 385 · about 12 hours ago

So I am an environmental educator at a residential facility. All of the food is already prepared. I avoid most of the grains (and nuts, really), but have found that it is difficult to be purely paleo (vegetable oils). Given that I am lacking... (more)

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Jack_Kronk 0 · September 28, 2011 at 2:54 PM

I don't think eating phytase along with phytates counterbalance each other in that way. You can add a phytase containing item (like buckwheat flour) to a phytate containing item (like oats) to neutralize it during fermentation, but I've never... (more)

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by 1811 · about 12 hours ago

Although I'm a committed Paleo eater, I've recently gotten to thinking... Historically, could a certain amount of phytic acid have made sense in a diet that included high levels of minerals (like the Paleo diet)? Granted, eating something like a... (more)

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Primordial 0 · December 12, 2011 at 6:39 PM

It seems the only problem is too much iron. I don't know of any other mineral which is harmful in bigger amounts when consuming a diet without much phytic acid. This is the hypothesis about the "adaptive response": The high incidence of HH... (more)

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by 12847 · about 12 hours ago

White rice is touted to be basically pure starch by Paul Jaminet on the basis that asain people eat it so it must be healthy right? But it's not pure starch, it is a refined grain that most asain people haven't been eating that long. ... (more)

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Jack_Kronk 0 · June 22, 2011 at 5:15 PM

I'm sorry but I have to play on the side that there are greater things to worry about than the small amount of phytic acid in white rice. We avoid so much phytic acid eating Paleo as it is. Most people get far higher levels with all their whole... (more)

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by 10 · about 12 hours ago

I can't seem to find a list of the phytic acid content in various foods (wheat, barley, quinoa, corn, black beans, red beans, lentils, almonds, walnuts, etc etc etc). I'm basically looking for a list of all the grains, legumes, seeds and nuts and... (more)

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FED_at_LiveCaveman_com 0 · May 30, 2011 at 10:23 PM

From phyticacid.org... Phytic acid in an assortment of grains: Barley infant cereal: 897 mg/100 grams Mixed grain cereal: 510 mg/100 grams Wheat bran muffin: 498 mg/100 grams Oatmeal: 943 mg/100 grams Wheat bran: 3,011 mg/100... (more)

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by 1049 · about 12 hours ago

someone posted this question improperly, though I think it would be good to ponder edited original question: Let's say I eat consume 1500 mg of phytic acid. How much will this phytic acid decrease mineral absorption in my gut? Percentages would... (more)

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RG73 0 · March 07, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Wait, I don't get why you can't avoid pasta? Italy has meat and veggies last time I checked. They even know how to cook them. So I have my copy of Marcella Hazan's Essentials of Classic Italian Cooking in front of me and there are about 300... (more)

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by 18412 · about 12 hours ago

I was reading an article on Mark's Daily Apple yesterday about oats. Everything was sounding very familiar and near the end I saw a reference to PaleoHacks. I clicked the link and BAM! It was my oatmeal post here!! He used my recipe to make baked... (more)

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Stephen_Aegis 0 · March 03, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Alot of responses, and I didnt see one mention Avenin. Avenin is the Gluten of Oats. Avenin is the Prolamine found in wheat, and while not nearly as offensive to the human system as Gluten... it does the same thing on a smaller scale. Its a... (more)

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by 373 · about 12 hours ago

Not technically a paleo question, but I'm not sure what other nutritional community to ask :). Hypothetically, if I were to eat legumes, what would be some of the better ones to eat (from the paleo perspective -- lowest in o-6 and toxins (or that... (more)

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imanomnivore 0 · February 02, 2011 at 2:04 PM

Legumes are a huge part of Tim Ferriss's "slow carb" diet. He has mentioned that he thinks they are excellent for fat loss (especially lentils... though he's not quite sure on the mechanisms). What's funny is Robb Wolf did a guest post on paleo... (more)

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by 787 · about 12 hours ago

Parboiled rice usually refers to rice that has been vacuum dried, and then cooked with steam and pressure - forcing nutrients (mostly water soluble vitamins) from the husk into the starchy kernel. It also gelatinizes some of the starch, making the... (more)

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Ryan_7 0 · February 16, 2011 at 4:50 PM

I would avoid rice in general because it is still a grain, and very high in starch. If you have decided to eat rice anyway, it sounds like parboiling it will offer more nutrients than the typical white or brown varieties, so it might be the... (more)

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by 410 · about 12 hours ago

I???ve been reading about healing tooth decay with a high vitamin/mineral diet as I???ve just been to the dentist and got the bad news that I have a cavity! I was pretty surprised as I rarely get cavities (even after skipping on the dentist for 5... (more)

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Vee 0 · January 26, 2011 at 7:11 AM

Did the dentist use the new digital xray? My daughter had no cavities for years. Even after braces she got a clean bill time after time. Then the dentist office switched to a digital xray procedure and bam! several cavities. They said this ... (more)

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by 20787 · about 12 hours ago

We were having a discussion at the San Diego paleo meetup today and someone said cashews are legumes instead of nuts and therefore are not paleo. Suddenly I wondered why a legume that looks like a nut would be less healthy to eat than a real nut.... (more)

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Drew_aka_CrossFit_Junkie 0 · September 18, 2010 at 5:21 AM

This is a very good question, and I've wondered this for a while. I tend to just avoid nuts and seeds altogether, but it still remains a very valid question. We want to know the reasons behind the decisions we make. My best guess is that there is... (more)

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