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too much potassium

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anyone here worried that theyre potassium intake is too high on paleo? is there any way to counteract this? everything good has potassium in it!

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661 · September 07, 2013 at 1:28 AM

i guess i just need to eat more salt. the hormone which i believe regulates this (aldosterone) i tested low in as well, i have very low bp at times

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19120 · January 17, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Yes, there is a gaping discrepancy in those trackers. If you find a whole food item that is straight from the SR database, it'll likeyly have all nutrients. However, if you add many of the cooked, premade, mixed, or branded foods, entries for nutrients like potassium are simply not entered. Summary: they generally gravely underestimate nutrient intake.

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19220 · December 20, 2011 at 5:40 PM

There were a few mentioned here that other people have used :) http://paleohacks.com/questions/3832/best-online-hopefully-free-nutritional-tracking-software#axzz1h67QwSTV

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661 · December 20, 2011 at 5:34 PM

do you know of a good nutrient tracking software program? i assume my kidney's are okay, i've had a complete metabolic panel and blood work. Thanks!

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661 · December 20, 2011 at 5:08 PM

i actually do drink a lot of water

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12847 · December 20, 2011 at 2:40 PM

I doubt the actual ratio matters, probably just absolute amount.

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12847 · December 20, 2011 at 2:39 PM

A high blood potassium probably has very little to do with the actual potassium you eat, make sure your eating enough sodium and not drinking too much water.

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661 · December 20, 2011 at 12:06 AM

actually i have gotten heartburn. which is HIGHLY unusual for me. it could be from taking too much magnesium too. i'm not sure.

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661 · December 19, 2011 at 11:58 PM

i dont know honestly. i'm just going by my serum labs

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661 · December 19, 2011 at 11:56 PM

(i suffer from a lot of weird symptoms, i have ehlers danlos so i lose track after awhile)

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661 · December 19, 2011 at 11:55 PM

i had a severe magnesium deficiency. it's common to get potassium tested with a metabolic panel. once it was 5.7!!

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19220 · December 19, 2011 at 11:20 PM

Online sources state that the normal range for potassium is 3.7 to 5.2 mEq/L.

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19220 · December 19, 2011 at 11:17 PM

Have you suffered any symptoms of high potassium? I am just wondering why you had a blood test for it.

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661 · December 19, 2011 at 11:11 PM

i dont know how much i eat per day. but i have tested in the 5.0 range several times.. ive heard potassium gives false serum readings all the time though but it still makes me wonder. theres a rbc potassium test but it's too expensive.

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19220 · December 19, 2011 at 10:32 PM

How much potassium are you consuming each day? In what way have you been tested for potassium?

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39841 · December 19, 2011 at 10:21 PM

Well, it's rooted in analysis of food we observe HGs actually eating. Some of these ratios are definitely arbitrary, but I remember thinking that it was fairly compelling when I read it. It may have been Eaton as well.

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3499 · December 19, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Honestly, there seem to be as many ideal ratios as there are people writing about ideal ratios. 2:1 at least *seems to be* backed up by studies into CHD risk.

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39841 · December 19, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Evolutionarily speaking, we're just not designed to encounter that much sodium.

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39841 · December 19, 2011 at 8:53 PM

I've seen the ideal ratio put as high as 16:1

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661 · December 19, 2011 at 8:46 PM

thanks for that article. i am very thin with insulin resistance. killin many birds with one article

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661 · December 19, 2011 at 8:38 PM

fwiw i have tested higher on potassium than what i thought, which is why im bringing this up

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39841 · December 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM

May want to take a gander at this: http://www.springerlink.com/content/rwqw5h4yu3arv4v0/ (the pdf is free)

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10653 · December 19, 2011 at 7:58 PM

Increase sodium intake?

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39841 · December 19, 2011 at 7:56 PM

This is a very backward way to look at evolutionarily-informed eating.

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19220 · December 20, 2011 at 2:31 PM

I would recommend recording your normal food intake very carefully for a two or three days and carefully entering this into a nutrient tracking software program. Then you would have an idea of how much potassium you are actually consuming.

It seems unlikely that you are consuming too much potassium unless you are really eating a great deal of potassium rich plants.

A potassium level of between 5 and 6 is classed as mild and is unlikely to have any symptoms.

There are a variety of medical issues that can lead to high potassium levels. Any of these are something to talk to a doctor about. Your kidneys usually maintain the level of potassium in the blood over a wide range of intakes.

It is less likely to be directly caused by potassium in your food unless you are also taking potassium supplements.

You can try reducing the amount of potassium in your diet but you can only really do this if you know how much you are currently eating.

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661 · December 20, 2011 at 5:34 PM

do you know of a good nutrient tracking software program? i assume my kidney's are okay, i've had a complete metabolic panel and blood work. Thanks!

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19220 · December 20, 2011 at 5:40 PM

There were a few mentioned here that other people have used :) http://paleohacks.com/questions/3832/best-online-hopefully-free-nutritional-tracking-software#axzz1h67QwSTV

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5332 · December 19, 2011 at 7:59 PM

everything good has potassium in it!

This may be a clue. I'm not concerned that potassium intake is too high. I'm certainly not going to try and artificially counteract it. Maybe someone else has more info, but I've not heard that this is an area to be worried about. At best there may be some issues with salt balance.

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4991 · December 19, 2011 at 11:11 PM

How on earth have you got so much potassium??!! According to FitDay, I rarely get 30% of my RDA - and I eat really well. Kidneys, liver, lots of veg, the occasional banana - but so rarely over 30%.

Or is Fit Day just utterly inaccurate?

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661 · December 19, 2011 at 11:58 PM

i dont know honestly. i'm just going by my serum labs

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19120 · January 17, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Yes, there is a gaping discrepancy in those trackers. If you find a whole food item that is straight from the SR database, it'll likeyly have all nutrients. However, if you add many of the cooked, premade, mixed, or branded foods, entries for nutrients like potassium are simply not entered. Summary: they generally gravely underestimate nutrient intake.

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3742 · December 19, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Yes, high serum potassium is a real concern. My guess is that you don't need to worry about it as long as you aren't supplementing with it as we've been eating a high potassium diet for a long time. That's not the case with sodium, which is why our kidneys have to actively pump it out.

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3499 · December 19, 2011 at 8:43 PM

Seeing as how increasing your potassium to sodium ratio is one of the ways of lowering your blood pressure, the ideal ratio of K:Na is in the range of 2:1, and the average ratio in the US is 1:2, I don't see this as much of an issue, even if you are VLC and your body is potassium sparing.

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661 · September 07, 2013 at 1:28 AM

i guess i just need to eat more salt. the hormone which i believe regulates this (aldosterone) i tested low in as well, i have very low bp at times

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39841 · December 19, 2011 at 8:53 PM

I've seen the ideal ratio put as high as 16:1

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3499 · December 19, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Honestly, there seem to be as many ideal ratios as there are people writing about ideal ratios. 2:1 at least *seems to be* backed up by studies into CHD risk.

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39841 · December 19, 2011 at 10:21 PM

Well, it's rooted in analysis of food we observe HGs actually eating. Some of these ratios are definitely arbitrary, but I remember thinking that it was fairly compelling when I read it. It may have been Eaton as well.

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39841 · December 19, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Evolutionarily speaking, we're just not designed to encounter that much sodium.

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12847 · December 20, 2011 at 2:40 PM

I doubt the actual ratio matters, probably just absolute amount.

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0 · January 17, 2013 at 3:27 PM

What was you potassium level.. I have heard that if you clench your fist when they draw the blood you can get a false high reading.

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375 · December 19, 2011 at 10:27 PM

I have anywhere from 5:1 to 18:1 ratio. I don't restrict my salt intake, there are just simply a lot of food that tastes great without the need of putting salt on it.

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20353 · December 19, 2011 at 9:27 PM

I try to have a 4:1 ratio. However I would love to be at 16:1 (The ratio Travis mentions).

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