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How do you make / grow kefir grains without buying them?

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Created April 07, 2012 at 11:09 PM

The companies that sell the grains??? and the people throughout history who have made kefir must have to make the grains without existing grains so how do you make kefir grains at home?

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0 · July 09, 2014 at 10:40 AM

store bought kefir will give you some curds, but NOT grains. It is a probiotic made from a mix of bacteria and yeast to give it a kefir like flavor but isn't true kefir, and only has a fraction of the bacteria and yeast strains of actual kefir grown from grains.

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0 · July 09, 2014 at 10:39 AM

This tribe entry is incorrect and it's author confuses curds with kefir grains. He tells how to make a wild ferment, but had no actual experience with true kefir grains.

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8140 · October 11, 2013 at 2:02 AM

I'd be very careful with this-- how do you know that the bacteria souring the coconut water is "good" bacteria" safe for ingestion? Fermenting needs to either start with the introduction of beneficial bacteria OR at least creating ideal conditions (ie high acid level) to discourage harmful bacteria in order to give natural and beneficial bacteria a chance to propagate.

By way of example, think about what would happen if you left plain milk out to sour--it's just as likely to spoil as ferment without the introduction of good bacteria.

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0 · October 10, 2013 at 10:48 PM

My email is Daneshav@gmail.com

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0 · October 10, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Do you still have this issue? I want to start making kefir and I'm in SF

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880 · June 27, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Yup, found mine on Craigslist. $10 for the grains, which I've already paid for many times over, with the amounts I've made :)

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803 · March 14, 2013 at 1:33 AM

interesting. I wonder what kind of ants to use though. The only ones near my house are black sugar ants and lord knows I dont want to eat what they've been eating! Probably spilled coke mostly... And their eggs must be tiny! It seems cheaper to just buy the grains than start an ant farm.

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457 · September 29, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Is this old? I'm in santa clara and have been looking everywhere for some grains. Do you still have some?

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5828 · June 13, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Or see if there's a freecycle mailing list near you and post your request there.

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813 · April 09, 2012 at 2:29 AM

Thanks for the offer, there's lot available here, I just wanted to make them.

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2504 · April 08, 2012 at 3:57 PM

I assume I will still have a bunch. Post your email here, and I can send you my contact info.

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189 · April 08, 2012 at 12:38 PM

I'll be in the area at the end of May. If you still have grains to share, I would love some!

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5043 · April 08, 2012 at 1:27 AM

legend has it that Mohammed was involved. They were closely guarded, called "grains of the prophet". then the Russians managed to snag them. They multiply, so they started spreading across Europe. Since I got mine from a local health food store a month or less ago, I've already shared the excess with three other people.

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56616 · April 08, 2012 at 12:35 AM

The crazy thing is that no one knows how humans discovered them. That would be a cool PhD thesis in genetics. There is some legend about some king and how Mohammed gave him the original grains. So you could ask Mohammed.

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24271 · April 07, 2012 at 11:22 PM

There is no way to "make" grains at home from scratch. I know what you're saying but I tried for a year to find a way and everyone told me it was not possible. I'm big on DIY and there's a way to make nearly everything at home but I turned up nothing on kefir grains. I'm not sure where all these grains originally came from but there does not appear to be a way to create this complex creature on your own at home.

You might be able to find someone locally who is willing to share. That's how I got my latest batch. Check Craigslist or the farmer's market maybe?

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5828 · June 13, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Or see if there's a freecycle mailing list near you and post your request there.

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880 · June 27, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Yup, found mine on Craigslist. $10 for the grains, which I've already paid for many times over, with the amounts I've made :)

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32518 · April 07, 2012 at 11:34 PM

So I make "quick & dirty" kefir by mixing 1/3 store-bought organic kefir with 2/3 raw goats milk & leaving it on the counter for 12-18 hours.

You can strain the finished kefir & you will have some grains--but not as many different strains as you will get from getting grains from someone else.

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0 · July 09, 2014 at 10:40 AM

store bought kefir will give you some curds, but NOT grains. It is a probiotic made from a mix of bacteria and yeast to give it a kefir like flavor but isn't true kefir, and only has a fraction of the bacteria and yeast strains of actual kefir grown from grains.

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5949 · April 07, 2012 at 11:21 PM

It's a culture that has been propagated and passed down for many generations. If you're not willing to buy some, you'll need to hook up with someone who has extras they're willing to give you. The grains multiply, and anyone who is regularly making kefir is going to end up with more grains than he needs.

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10 · October 28, 2012 at 2:56 AM

I noticed this is pretty high on Google search so I'd like to chime in for anyone that finds this. The most plausible theory at this time is that kefir grains originated from sheep intestinal bacteria. Scientists have tried to use pure cultures to recreate kefir grains and haven't had much luck - so this isn't something you can DIY. However, once you have a kefir grain or grains it will multiply over time. In this sense you are making your own kefir grains, but you must start with a kefir grain(s) that is obtained. If you are looking for kefir grains check out simplykefir.com or check your local craigslist

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803 · March 14, 2013 at 1:33 AM

interesting. I wonder what kind of ants to use though. The only ones near my house are black sugar ants and lord knows I dont want to eat what they've been eating! Probably spilled coke mostly... And their eggs must be tiny! It seems cheaper to just buy the grains than start an ant farm.

Be8e882e66a1c0924b4b3f3e1ae1f851
0 · July 09, 2014 at 10:39 AM

This tribe entry is incorrect and it's author confuses curds with kefir grains. He tells how to make a wild ferment, but had no actual experience with true kefir grains.

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2504 · April 07, 2012 at 11:35 PM

where are you located? I'm in the SF Bay area, and I've got kefir grains coming out of my ears. Happy to share.

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813 · April 09, 2012 at 2:29 AM

Thanks for the offer, there's lot available here, I just wanted to make them.

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2504 · April 08, 2012 at 3:57 PM

I assume I will still have a bunch. Post your email here, and I can send you my contact info.

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189 · April 08, 2012 at 12:38 PM

I'll be in the area at the end of May. If you still have grains to share, I would love some!

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457 · September 29, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Is this old? I'm in santa clara and have been looking everywhere for some grains. Do you still have some?

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0 · October 10, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Do you still have this issue? I want to start making kefir and I'm in SF

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0 · October 10, 2013 at 10:48 PM

My email is Daneshav@gmail.com

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0 · June 27, 2013 at 11:43 AM

We started a new Kefir community at http://www.wheretofindkefirgrains.com. Please join in on the discussions! thanks Alex

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0 · April 15, 2013 at 4:08 AM

Just like mold spores of tempeh or koji you have to get them from somewhere. The chances of them appearing are 1 in a 1,000,000. You have to get real grains from a good source. We have seen the grains grow inside fruit but with the real grains in the jar, too You cannot make your own grains. This site rocks them out with 5 different types of water kefir, plus the milk grians. www.organic-cultures.com

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78422 · March 13, 2013 at 9:31 PM

I have 4 different probiotics, water kefir, milk kefir, kombucha and jun scobies. My website is https://sites.google.com/site/desertoasisbuckeye/shopnow where you can order online or you could mail a check. Let me know if you want to order some. You can pick up in Buckeye or I can mail your order.

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0 · January 02, 2013 at 7:02 PM

Hello, I am trying to make kefir for the first time, someone in Chicago can lend me some kefir grains to try out? Thank you in advance.

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0 · December 17, 2012 at 8:29 PM

People give away extra kefir grains on Craigslist all the tume.

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0 · December 11, 2012 at 5:33 PM

I made coconut water kefir using nothing but the coconut water and a tightly sealed glass jar at room temperature.

Has anyone else tried this? Do the same types of good bacteria form just as if i was using the grains?

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8140 · October 11, 2013 at 2:02 AM

I'd be very careful with this-- how do you know that the bacteria souring the coconut water is "good" bacteria" safe for ingestion? Fermenting needs to either start with the introduction of beneficial bacteria OR at least creating ideal conditions (ie high acid level) to discourage harmful bacteria in order to give natural and beneficial bacteria a chance to propagate.

By way of example, think about what would happen if you left plain milk out to sour--it's just as likely to spoil as ferment without the introduction of good bacteria.

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8140 · October 28, 2012 at 6:58 AM

You can try your local Freecycle, I got some there once.

Last time I bought from a reputable dealer on eBay and these grains are the best ever--they double every week so I'm always looking for people to give them away to (North SF Bay Area--Sonoma County).

You can even buy them on Amazon.

There are powders that will innoculate your milk but not as well as the real kefir grains.

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7275 · October 28, 2012 at 3:13 AM

If you can find an Opuntia cactus, it looks like you can DIY water kefir: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibicos.

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1163 · June 13, 2012 at 9:04 PM

I make my own kefir grains just google it,pretty simple once you get the hang of it

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