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Probiotic enemas - should I attack my dysbiosis from behind?

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Updated September 16, 2014 at 7:55 PM
Created October 10, 2012 at 6:50 PM

There's a fair amount of stuff on this site about incorporating probiotics into the diet to help with gastrointestinal issues (kefir, sauerkraut, supplements etc.).

However, there's issues about how many of the mirco-organisms actually make it through the upper digestive tract unscathed and whether they're a good idea for people with small bowel issues (e.g. SIBO). Ferments are also tough for people like me with histamine issues.

So, does anyone have any thoughts or experience of tackling digestive problems from the other end by using probiotic enemas?

Would you just use regular probiotic supplements mixed in sterilised water? Any ingredients to add or avoid (e.g. prebiotics)? Dosage?

Or is it all just a really bad idea?

Thanks!

Note: I'm not wanting to use an enema to help eliminate faecal matter or otherwise 'clean' the colon (my colon needs no encouragement in that department). It's simply to get the probiotics directly where they're wanted.

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3180 · October 04, 2013 at 6:54 PM

You may want to try some potato starch, too. If your bacteria are well-fed, they should never need replaced unless killed by antibiotics. It's hard to get enough prebiotics, but potato starch is cheap, easy, and very effective!

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5640 · October 11, 2012 at 4:14 PM

maybe try a store bought probiotic first. you can do a small amount by using a baby syringe- they are bulb-shaped. all you would do is mix the probiotic with a little bit of water or saline solution and suck it up into the syringe. i lubricated the tip with coconut oil to make it slide in easily

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424 · October 11, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Thanks for letting me know your experience. Sorry to hear the enemas didn't help your ulcerative colitis. My worry is that I could have a similar experience to you. I don't have colitis but I don't want to make my symptoms worse.

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424 · October 11, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Have considered a fecal implant but have no idea how to go about finding a suitable donor or whether it would actually do any good.

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11683 · October 10, 2012 at 8:40 PM

have you considered doing a fecal implant? that's on my bucket list (and probably no one else's).

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11048 · October 10, 2012 at 8:17 PM

+1 for the perfect use of "behind."

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5160 · October 10, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Just do it. Natasha Campbell-McBride has a section in her book about probiotic enemas and a step-by-step guide on how to do it. If you can get the book in a library or something, you could just copy the guide.

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5640 · October 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM

I have done a lot of different enemas- VSL #3 enemas, Vit E enemas, Fecal transplant enemas.

I honestly found that none of them helped. I was doing them for my ulcerative colitis. The VSL enemas were a waste of money since it costs a fortune in the first place. Vit E enemas didn't do anything and the FT enemas made my symptoms 100x worse. Won't be doing that again. EVER!

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5640 · October 11, 2012 at 4:14 PM

maybe try a store bought probiotic first. you can do a small amount by using a baby syringe- they are bulb-shaped. all you would do is mix the probiotic with a little bit of water or saline solution and suck it up into the syringe. i lubricated the tip with coconut oil to make it slide in easily

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424 · October 11, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Thanks for letting me know your experience. Sorry to hear the enemas didn't help your ulcerative colitis. My worry is that I could have a similar experience to you. I don't have colitis but I don't want to make my symptoms worse.

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0 · March 12, 2014 at 10:18 AM

@TJ 5,

I've been dealing with some serious dysbiosis, candida, etc. myself. I did one probiotic enema after a colonic and it seems like it did a nice job. My question is how long to retain the enema. I thought initially to keep it in overnight until I went again in the morning, but my colon hydrotherapist recommended a half hour. Next time, I think I'll go longer.

I also used roughly a trillion CFUs by combining 3 probiotics. Ortho Molecular makes "Probiotic 225," which has 225 CFUs over 15 servings (~$50). I also used a probiotic from Klaire Labs and Primal Defense.

I strongly believe probiotic enemas are a good idea. You are guaranteeing the highest potency possible going directly to your colon.

Beyond the probiotic, I've had tremendous success using essential oils in my enemas. This is the only thing that has been effective in destroying unwanted biofilms in my gut. After doing the first, I pooped all sorts of stuff out. For several days after, things were speckled white -- what I understand to be candida. Since doing them I just feel normal. Crisp. Good.

If you do probiotic enemas, I think you should do ones with essential oils first for a couple weeks to get the bad guys out of the way. Here's what I do:

1. Wake up and have first bowel movement (sometimes I have two in the morning, so I'll wait a little before getting started with the enema)

2. Perform enema with only filtered water (including Fluoride) to get out any remaining fecal matter; about 16 ounces (I use this enema kit: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EZ5XH2O/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ------ make sure it's silicone!)

3. Mix 5 (more or less for your comfort level) drops of 2 or 3 essential oils (list I have/use below) with quality salt (http://www.amazon.com/Premiere-Research-Labs-Premier-Pink/dp/B0042DARWM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394618433&sr=8-1&keywords=premier+research+labs+salt), maybe a TBSP or two of good Aloe-Vera juice and 4 cups of water. I combine these in a quart-sized glass jar so I can shake it up to mix.

4. Lay on your left side when performing the enema -- this will let the fluid go farther in your colon. For something like a coffee enema (where you don't want it going to far), you'd want to be on your right side.

5. I use coconut oil for lubricant...slide it in there and let it flow. It will tingle, but don't be alarmed.

6. I leave the liquid in there for at least 15 minutes. I feel wonderful after each time I do it -- a sort of well-rested feeling.

The oils I've used so far are Clove, Lemongrass, Thyme and Orange. They are all good (especially the first two) at handling biofilms. Something I've learned -- with much frustration -- is it doesn't matter what you do if the bad guys have constituted a biofilm. Getting rid of that and healing the lining of your gut are top priority.

I have many more oils, but the ones I plan on using are Rosemary, Lemon, and Cassia. I have Tea Tree and Oregano oils, but I'm nervous to use those as they are strong. I might just do it though.

If you do go this route, make sure your oils are therapeutic grade -- not all essential oils are created equal.

Sorry for the long post, but I'm just so happy I stumbled up this and I have to share.

Good luck with everything!

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3180 · October 04, 2013 at 6:51 PM

No need to go the backdoor route! Try this instead.

Buy a bag of unmodified potato starch. Bob's Red Mill sells it cheap and it's easy to find.

Mix 1-2TBS of this in with your yogurt or kefir, or just mix it with milk or any type smoothy and drink it down. After 2-3 weeks, start taking 3-4TBS/day. After 4-6 weeks, cut dose back to 1-2TBS/day if you like.

Raw potato starch is an excellent prebiotic. So excellent, in fact, that probiotic strains of lacto and bifido bacteria will adhere to it as soon as they see it and will pile themselves on it, giving them safe passage through the stomach and small intestine.

Another bonus is that when this resistant starch hits the large intestine, it will serve as food to probiotic bacteria that is already there.

Go here to see picture proof and a good explanation of it all:

http://www.drbganimalpharm.blogspot.com/

Good luck!

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0 · October 03, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Hi

I have had issues with Candida, dybiosis and also have histamine intolerance.

I have successfully managed it at times but one thing I could not seem to get right was a healthy level of good bacteria in my small intestine no matter how many probiotics I took.

I read an article from a gastroenterologist clinic here in Sydney www.ccd.com.au.They offer Faecal Microbiota Transplantation which made sense to me but it was at a cost of up to AUD $20,000 which I could not afford.I thought I would try probiotic enemas using some of the best probiotics on the market today.

I was so surprised with the outcome – after a week my health was remarkably better and in fact I had the best health I have experienced.

Over many years of Doctors, specialists, naturopaths, nutritionists, relentless and exhaustive research and trial and error it has become apparent that the probiotic enemas are a vital part of maintaining good health for someone with my complex health.I still have to manage my diet and stress levels but have 1 probiotic enema a month to maintain the flora and additionally take probiotics daily.

I hope this information is encouraging to you.

Regards

Caroline

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3180 · October 04, 2013 at 6:54 PM

You may want to try some potato starch, too. If your bacteria are well-fed, they should never need replaced unless killed by antibiotics. It's hard to get enough prebiotics, but potato starch is cheap, easy, and very effective!

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