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Waking Up Feeling Depressed/Anxiety

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Created October 15, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Hi,

I am eating Paleo (almost entirely pure, some bad carbs, no gluten) and I have had a tendency lately to wake up feeling really depressed and with anxiety about a lot of things I worry about. This feeling remains until I eat my breakfast (usually a couple of eggs with veggies) and then it weens off. I'm sensitive to cortisol which I reckon is my issue here and although I wake up by myself I still get this feeling.

I'm a bit tired of waking up with that feeling all the time although I know it subsides once I eat, I just dread waking up in the morning. Any suggestions about what it can be, or how to mitigate it?

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0 · June 16, 2014 at 9:35 PM

It is common on Any diet to wake up anxious / depressed. Think due to bio rhyming of gut & cortisol is part of this. Have food at bedside as sx occur due to low blood sugar too.

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0 · October 20, 2013 at 7:09 AM

As a good source of both vitamin A and vitamin D, cod liver oil would prevent from vitamin A toxicity

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0 · October 19, 2013 at 9:08 PM

So it seems that it has a lot to do with general stress for me, and of course stress-induced sources like food etc, would have on me. Though it is really surprising that coffee was worse than wheat in this instance!

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0 · October 19, 2013 at 9:07 PM

I have determined to quit drinking coffee on a regular basis. The past few days I stopped drinking coffee and it got better. With my experiement I also tried eating some buns to see how I reacted to the wheat sensitivity. To my surprise I found out that I didn't react nearly as bad as I had done to the coffee. Just some bloating which is really strange as I got Crohns.

I don't react nearly as badly with tea compared to coffee also. Though I can have it on an empty stomach. Also I started writing in a journal and getting down my thoughts on lists to get a proper overview.

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4458 · October 17, 2013 at 9:43 PM

low blood sugar can result in feelings of anxiety, could that be a possibility, & may also explain why you feel better after eating.

other symptoms of low blood sugar here (wiki)

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245 · October 17, 2013 at 8:51 PM

i know if my blood sugar gets too low it makes me pretty anxious, and being tired makes me jumpy/paranoid.

if i was you i'd be making sure my hormones are in order, making sure your blood sugar is good, making sure your sleeping right.

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245 · October 17, 2013 at 8:49 PM

not sure, the point was to make sure your hormones are in order.

symptoms of low cortisol

i know nor epinephrine is associated with the fight-or-flight reflex, people whose blood sugar drops too low during the night may get a release of this, which will cause them to wake up with high heart rate/sweating. not quite sure what it would do when your awake or if it even has anything to do with your situation.... was just a guess on my part.

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0 · October 17, 2013 at 8:31 PM

I supplement daily with Vit D (about 4400 IU) and recently started Omega 3. This has gone on for a while and it has not been purely related to seasons. After I started O3 I started to get a cold, not entirely strange because O3 is really rare in my diet and my O3:O6 ratio is probably off the charts, hence the reason I am taking it.

I started with a relatively big dose and got the runs, so I dialed the O3 intake down to gradually increase it instead. I can also mention that I have been stressed out for quite a while mentally due to various reasons.

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0 · October 17, 2013 at 8:28 PM

I have been drinking a lot of coffee and I have been stressed out a lot during the last year. So if I were to think about cortisol in that way, that might really be one of the reasons. How would I know that it is releasing nro epinephrine instead of cortisol though?

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245 · October 15, 2013 at 7:49 PM

sorries, no clue.

might have heard it over @ bulletproofexec.com but the only link i got after googling was

http://www.bulletproofexec.com/mastering-the-mid-day-recharge-in-only-15-minutes/

doesnt give a lot of detail, theres probably more info out there somewhere on the web.( i listen to podcasts when i dont need full attention on a task)

says to take 1/2 tsp /w glass water

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30 · October 15, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Hey this sounds really interesting. Do you have any stuff you'd recommend on this subject?

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245 · October 15, 2013 at 4:52 PM

i believe the theory is that your body peaks cotrisol production in the morning to raise your blood pressure, so you can go from a horizontal to a vertical state without passing out. ive seen some people suggest that you can mitigate your cortisol production by consuming salt water immediately upon waking.

although i imagine many other factors could play into this, for example if your body could not produce enough cortisol and started releasing nor epinephrine? (IIRC)(not 100%) possibly due to not getting what it needs from your diet or if your over excreting cortisol because your stressed all the time.(from other reasons)

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30 · October 15, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Hey this sounds really interesting. Do you have any stuff you'd recommend on this subject?

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0 · October 17, 2013 at 8:28 PM

I have been drinking a lot of coffee and I have been stressed out a lot during the last year. So if I were to think about cortisol in that way, that might really be one of the reasons. How would I know that it is releasing nro epinephrine instead of cortisol though?

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0 · October 19, 2013 at 9:07 PM

I have determined to quit drinking coffee on a regular basis. The past few days I stopped drinking coffee and it got better. With my experiement I also tried eating some buns to see how I reacted to the wheat sensitivity. To my surprise I found out that I didn't react nearly as bad as I had done to the coffee. Just some bloating which is really strange as I got Crohns.

I don't react nearly as badly with tea compared to coffee also. Though I can have it on an empty stomach. Also I started writing in a journal and getting down my thoughts on lists to get a proper overview.

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598 · October 17, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Did you just start reducing carbs within the last few weeks? If so, this could pass soon.

Otherwise:

I hate to jump to vitamins/minerals but....

Do you eat liver or take a b complex? Liver is better of course. This could easily help with depression/anxiety.

Do you supplement magnesium at night for sound sleep and other benefits? Do you get some sun during the day AND take some vitamin D upon waking? Almost nobody living a modern lifestyle (even paleo) gets enough of these and the vitamin D can really jump start your circadian rhythm.

Of course, don't get me started on balance with supplementation. I recommend cronometer.com to see if you have enough vitamin K to make vitamin D supplementation safe. And before eating much liver, make sure you get vitamin D to prevent vitamin A toxicity.

Not exactly what you want to worry about if you're stressed.

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0 · October 20, 2013 at 7:09 AM

As a good source of both vitamin A and vitamin D, cod liver oil would prevent from vitamin A toxicity

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30 · October 15, 2013 at 7:17 PM

I am sorry to hear that you feel this way. Especially if you are dreading sleep. That can't be helping. Do you think it could be the seasons changing? Or possible just not enough vitamin D or sunlight? I just want to offer some questions up that you may not have thought of so we can fix this. If you are new to paleo for many people, myself included, there is a transition period that can involve some adverse moods, depression, etc. I can tell you that if that is the case it will pass soon, and then you will be feeling a whole different kind of amazing.

Other things to consider are maybe double checking your omega 3 intake or supplementing with vitamin D. If you think it is season related there are light boxes you can get that I have heard help with depression. But as you said it is only an issue in the morning. Maybe too many electronics on as you sleep? Or bad dreams you don't remember? Tell me if those questions jog any ideas and we can work it out some more.

Best of luck! @Shibby86

Adam Chevalier

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0 · October 17, 2013 at 8:31 PM

I supplement daily with Vit D (about 4400 IU) and recently started Omega 3. This has gone on for a while and it has not been purely related to seasons. After I started O3 I started to get a cold, not entirely strange because O3 is really rare in my diet and my O3:O6 ratio is probably off the charts, hence the reason I am taking it.

I started with a relatively big dose and got the runs, so I dialed the O3 intake down to gradually increase it instead. I can also mention that I have been stressed out for quite a while mentally due to various reasons.

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245 · October 15, 2013 at 4:52 PM

i believe the theory is that your body peaks cotrisol production in the morning to raise your blood pressure, so you can go from a horizontal to a vertical state without passing out. ive seen some people suggest that you can mitigate your cortisol production by consuming salt water immediately upon waking.

although i imagine many other factors could play into this, for example if your body could not produce enough cortisol and started releasing nor epinephrine? (IIRC)(not 100%) possibly due to not getting what it needs from your diet or if your over excreting cortisol because your stressed all the time.(from other reasons)

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