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Hi all, A friend of mine has been on Reandron for 3 yrs due to an issue with pituitary tumor and testosterone production.

My understanding of Reandron is that it stops your body producing it naturally.

I am wanting to get him off the Reandron and back to natural methods if possible.

He is very paleo and very active. He is NOT taking it for performance gains and the levels he has are within normal range (new bloodwork results due in a few days).

Has anyone any experience with longterm usage and then going back to natural methods?

Could he produce additional Testosterone naturally in addition to Reandron then wean himself off it?

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George
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asked Feb 28 2012 at 1:53

George
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Exogenous testosterone will suppress endogenous production and is only beneficial in established hypogonadism. Endogenous production can be boosted by high intensity training, adequate rest and an appropriate diet (eg high protein paleo). Reandron will not suppress the endogenous peaks from exercise (i.e. he will still het a boost) but will suppress basal endogenous levels. – meta Aug 18 at 5:46

Andy Welch · Answer 1 · 2012-02-28 06:22:33Z UTC

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If his natural production has been shut down for long enough, then with the testicular atrophy that ensues...recovery may be impossible. Each man is different...but if there was a reason to shut it down for example the pituitary tumor...then it's best to follow the medical guidance.

My own HTPA crashed when I was 30 years old and I've been on testosterone replacement therapy for years. Producing natural test for me is now, impossible. No matter how I eat...no matter how I train...it's just not happening.

answered Feb 28 2012 at 6:22

Andy Welch
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	thanks, what are you doing to try and produce it naturally diet and training wise? – George Feb 29 2012 at 1:47
	Nothing any more. Heavy weights and lots of meat was what I was doing. Now, there is no point...my own HTPA is shut down beyond any repair. So I just take my test once a week for the rest of my life. Sometimes, that's the best one can do. If the person has an actual endocrine problem, like the pituitary tumor, paleo or primal will make them healthier, but it will NOT fix their problem. Sometimes, you've just got to go with modern medicine. We actually did evolve enough to get smart enough to invent it after all. :) – Andy Welch Feb 29 2012 at 2:03
	it seems your correct here unfortunately, not much that can be done. Latest T results are very low - not producing anything himself. More research needs to be done here for men. – George Mar 12 2012 at 10:57
	with respect, if your hypothlamic–pituitary–adrenal axis was truly shut down you would be dead but I get your meaning. – meta Aug 18 at 5:49

Steve · Answer 2 · 2012-03-20 02:58:12Z UTC

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On the advice of my endocrinologist I have been having the Reandron injections for 18 months due to low testotrone During that period I noticed that my CK blood test results have increased significantly and my kidney results for creatine and eGFr have approached dangerous levels. Has anyone experience the same problem.

answered Mar 20 2012 at 2:58

Steve
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	its creatinine, and are you taking creatine? – Bill1102inf Mar 20 2012 at 3:00
	is there anything else that may have changed -diet or exercise wise in that period? – George Mar 21 2012 at 0:09

Andy · Answer 3 · 2012-08-18 02:50:58Z UTC

I too have been on Reandron for about 2.5 years and testogel before than for 4 years for a pituitary lesion. I have recently had an MRI as it states there is no discernible mass and am therefore considering stopping reandron and seeing if my LH and test levels change. I haven't had testicular atrophy and my testosterone dosing has been conservative. The problem with reandron is the half life of the drug is very long and I would have to monitor my levels regularly for a length period of time (months to a year-I estimate). I aim to consult with my endocrinologists about this and then perhaps have another pituitary function test. As i see it, no one wants to be on life long medications, particularly at a young age and I can only monitor and see how my body responds. There is not much data available on coming off renadron, so it would require careful monitoring by the endocrinologist.

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