I can definitely say I'm paleo and not primal, but I found Sisson's Carbohydrate curve interesting. I was wondering what people around here thought about it. Here's the link
Just wanted general thoughts. Do any of you follow it? Is it a crock of shit or is it pretty spot on?
I totally like the concept of the carb curve but question the idea that the actual endpoints of the various sections are absolute. I believe that where you are on the curve largely depends on your activity level. If you're a sedentary menopausal woman, your "primal blueprint maintenance range" is very likely different from a 20-something male who is a triathlete.
It's a crock. C'mon.
150-300 grams/day – Steady, Insidious Weight Gain
The 151st gram of carbs is a running joke on my blog. There are too many black swans swimming around to justify this contention. I think there's quite a few right here at PH.
Whenever I see "effortless" coupled with weight loss I cringe. For most it requires some effort, even if that effort involves sticking to a low carb diet. Mark Sisson has authored too many scientifically inaccurate posts for my taste. Let the downvoting begin ;)
I've followed the "steady weight loss" curve of 50-100 off and on for 8 months. Since Sept, I've lost 5 inches off my waist so I'm pretty happy with the curve and I'm not sure how many I lost before that but it was more than 4" for sure.
In actual practice, my sweet spot is 60-80g. I don't know yet whether or not that will change as I get closer to my desired weight (at least 8-10 more inches off the waist) but there's been no change at all so far and I'm about halfway now.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that my carb intake has always been about 50% fruit and 50% vegetables. I don't subscribe to the fruit-phobia expressed by many on PH.
My general thoughts are that it is a useful general outline. I agree with Beth and Nance that each should test what level of carbs works for us to be at (or getting to) a healthy stable weight. For some the sky may be the limit. I shoot for 60gms of "safe" starch and don't count the ones in vegetables as I don't eat too many and have only a small amount of fruit. I'm guessing that I have 60-100 grams of carb a day and I'm still shrinking. Below 50 grams, as per the chart=the accelerated weight loss zone, my eyes become dry and I don't feel as well. Clint, mind your potty mouth, I like my crock pot too much to put anything but meat in it.
I've been following the general principles of the "Curve" and have lost over 50 pounds in the past three months...Eating moderately strict and limiting carb intake. My mom and sister have experienced the same results as well as coworkers that I know are following a carb restrictive diet. I agree that it seems to be a little "cut and dried" but the principles (in my experience) are sound and have delivered the results mentioned...As with everything else it's something that each person has to work through and experiment with on your own. Saying "it's a load of BS" isn't helpful or constructive and is an opinion that many on here (I'd suspect) and thousands on Mark's site would disagree with you on. Disagree if you want but respect the fact that countless people have had success with it and attack the weaknesses of the article (ie, it's cut and dried, people have to experiment on their own, it's different for everyone, etc.) if you like but don't discount the success people have had with it.
Just my thoughts...and testimonial...and opinion...
I would say its bout spot on in my case. Realistically if you are not eating crap good luck eating more than 150 grams of carb/day. Really should be hard to do, but unlike you I would go ahead and call my diet primal. It just is more well defined for how i eat.
Either way if I eat under 100 grams a day I can lose about 2lbs a week. A little more than that and weight loss stops. A lot more than that (which I can only reach that level by going off the reservation) and I could continue to gain. Following these past couple of months worth of holidays that mixed lots of food and booze I'm back to eating clean (50-100g carbs) which will have me dropping 5-8 lbs in a month and back to normal.
I think it's really helpful to see it set out like that. Of course it may differ from person to person but it's a useful set of measurements for those with quite a bit of weight to lose to experiment around.
Less carb certainly seems to stop people feeling hungry which for most of us is the biggest issue around trying to lose weight.
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