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The interesting concept of autophagy and its association with protein restriction brings to mind a very important question. I know that Stephan, at wholehealthsource, has elucidated the protein content of many traditional diets, but I was wondering if anyone knew the frequency of their meals--i.e. does anyone know if the meal frequency in effect caused an extended period of time where protein was restricted?

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Nance · Answer 1 · 2012-03-04 18:42:14Z UTC

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In the Hidden Planet segment about the Hadza, a Hadza gentleman said, "When the hunt fails we gather fruit and roots."

My perception is that they eat meat unless they fail to obtain it, so protein would be pretty high and carbs would be intermittent for that particular traditional society.

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I would imagine it to be seasonal as well? Depending. – gydle Mar 4 2012 at 18:51

But if you look at it from that angle--i.e. protein dependent upon a successful hunt-- then you notice that the protein intake seems to be extremely intermittent as well. Looks like once every 24 hours.. – Steven Mar 4 2012 at 19:05

A large animal might allow for multiple meals and heavy eating, but I agree it would be very intermittent. – Nance Mar 4 2012 at 19:47

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"Among the Eastern Hadza, about 200-300 still live almost exclusively from hunting game, collecting honey, digging tubers, and gathering berries and baobab fruit (Marlowe 1999)." web.mnstate.edu/robertsb/307/ANTH%20307/… – FED at LiveCaveman.com Mar 12 2012 at 0:23

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@FED, thanks much for posting the link. That's an interesting read. – Nance Mar 12 2012 at 2:10

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EnglishRose · Answer 2 · 2012-03-04 19:37:20Z UTC

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It hugely varies from innuit with 80% protein plus because nothing much else grows in the icy tundra to more like 40%.

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I think in their case it is different. Mainly because the protein they consume is mainly being used to produce glucose and ketones, meanwhile in our safe starch allowing world we are using the constituent amino acids for protein synthesis/signs of nutrient repletion--which prevent the process of autophagocytosis or arrest it in the middle of the process. But who knows – Steven Mar 4 2012 at 21:37

VB · Answer 3 · 2012-03-05 09:36:26Z UTC

I have read about two tribes from South America - I am sorry I forgot the names, but definitely not Yanomami.

Both tribes eat three meals per day - breakfast, lunch and dinner. Breakfast is very very light, leftover from dinner. Lunch is more like a snack. I think the author wrote that they eat for lunch whatever they find. Their lunch menus were listed, I just forgot what it was.

And dinner is like the biggest meal of the day. They ate it in the evening. One tribe ate roasted armadillo meat for dinner one day, I remember. And the next morning their breakfast was leftover armadillo meat (with other food, of course). But their breakfast is very small. They also ate all kinds of things I have never heard of.

So they do eat protein at least once or two times per day, but not that much. Those armadillos cannot be that huge, and you will have to share with other people as well.

But they also ate some kind of termites or grubs or some insects, as far as I remember.

OakTreesinSpring · Answer 4 · 2012-03-05 10:44:01Z UTC

i just ask myself after following paleohacks over along period. Why you folks if your are so interested in traditional cultures and indgneous cultures. First contact anthropologist or people who realy know on this subject and studied and then later with your half learned knowledge ask a more detailed question here. Is Paleohacks realy a good place to find out on evulotionary science and lifestyle of indegenous people and people who live close to the earth. One big paradox i see. is the bulky ripped muscles i see in the paleopeople and the more slim apearence of huntergatherer tribes and traditional cultures. Its a paradox. why paleodiet followers are more ripped and bulky than hunter gatherers or people in paleolithic times?

Protein frequency of traditional cultures

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