I've been doing a lot of research on Ray Peat's and 180degree health (Matt Stone)'s stuff, among experimenting with other things (paleo, GAPS, WAPF, raw primal, ray peat, RRARF, etc) over the past few years. I want to learn the best way to lose weight (and keep it off), and heal from multiple sclerosis....basically, to be healthy and feel great!
From what I know now (from learning from all those different diets and theories), it seems like the best thing to do is heal yourself (metabolism, thyroid --->gut, digesting ---->autoimmune problems etc, kind of a cascade of healing that ALL goes together--you can't just do one part!!). The best healing diet seems to be all whole, REAL foods consisting of~~ (obviously, eveyone is different, but this is just my general ideas)
It seems like in order for healing and weight loss to "stick", you have to fix your metabolism/thyroid first, so your body is in the right state to support its health. So the list of stuff above would be the "healing diet", with the eventual goal being, to be able to eat a much wider variety of foods (pretty much ALL whole healthy foods including grains, beans etc, restaurant and junk food occasionally etc.) and digest them easily and not have them cause any problems like weight gain or digestive distress. Although a major thing I learned is that restrictive diets aren't usually sustainable long-term, and are essentially like a "band aid" over the REAL problem (for ex: super-low-carb/fat/calorie, all liquid, all raw meat etc etc) becaues you can't do them forever or you'll screw up your metabolism. So, if you lose weight or cure a health issue on one such diet, and then add back in the restricted thing, a lot of times the weight/health problem/etc will come back because you didn't fix the underlying issue, YOU! haha ;-)
What do y'all think about my conclusions? Anyone tried something similar and got good results? Sorry this is so long, but I just kind of wanted to get my ideas written down and out there and get some feedback. :-)
I'd say that there's no one way and what you might at one point think is THE way for you is subject to change over time.
Eat real foods, minimize stress, maximize play and movement, sleep well. Tinker as needed.
I'm exploring these issues right now, myself. I've always been a bit overweight, but every time I exercise more and eat less to lose 10 or 20 lbs, I end up gaining it back and then some, such that I'm now about 30 lbs over my ideal, muscular weight. After my celiac diagnosis, I realize that the problem may be due to inflammation and malnourishment as well as some thyroiditis. I am hoping that if I can fix my micronutrient deficiencies and thyroid issues, I can then lose weight and maintain it. I agree with you that if you don't fix the underlying issues, they'll just come back.
For lasting weight loss and improved health I can agree healing the gut is high priority but my gut took a long time to heal completely so I lost a lot of fat while the gut was healing. I changed from junk to whole foods in April 2011 and it's only in the past month that there's been evidence of full recovery.
A probiotic drink, water kefir, was an important part of rehabilitating my gut flora. For months, I was like a sponge soaking it up but finally in the last month my body signaled "enough"--I now drink about 2 cups every other day rather than 4 cups per day. I also eat 2/3 cup of extra-fat home-made yogurt every other day but that was not a major factor in my recovery.
My loss of body fat has been a series of shallow ledges rather than a slope; there have been times of noticeable fat loss and times when I've stabilized. I think this bodes well for sustained success because my failed diets always fell apart at about the 6-8 month point and I rapidly regained the lost weight.
I think Anonymous Chump is exactly right and you will find that your optimal mix of foods is likely to shift from month to month as you heal and become better nourished. Just relax and enjoy the journey!
I like the idea of the four pillars of nutrition, mixed with GAPS, and paleo-low carb with a side of PHD and a few Primal movements....dont forget to push your SUV up a hill and have the paleo solution and the anwer ready for test time.
What you have down as the your best guess 'healing diet' pretty much covers what I typically eat based on seasonal availability. I'm comfortable enjoying changes in certain circumstances to include other foods (including some junk) but I don't feel I need that in order to make the healing diet sustainable. Heading into spring now the balance of what I eat will change and there will be a lot more variety available anyway, and I'll know that come next winter I'll be naturally restricted again. And if that is a healing diet then I can be even more liberal during summer! I'm not sure how it fits in to helping with long-term chronic illnesses but eating seasonally/locally seems to make sense for a sustainable lifestyle.
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