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Come on fess-up. You know it's not paleo but you use the stuff anyway to flavor the coffee you can't seem to quit, and the "paleo" sweet treats you like to make on occasion.

But this is your gut-bacteria on Splenda http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18800291

So knowing that crap is messing with your all-important gut-flora, are any of you Splenda junkies motivated to get off it?

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After 16 years of vegetarianism and 7 years of "ibs" type symptoms, I value my gut flora too much to TOUCH it. It's in a lot of protein powders too, which sucks. I won't eat anything with Splenda or sucralose in it. – NewEra Mar 15 2012 at 18:20

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Never had that problem because I think Splenda tastes gross anyway, even before paleo.

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YEP, I had a sweet tooth until I went paleo/primal. Now I only seem to want a little chocolate around THAT TIME>..significantly down from SAD diet where I wanted something daily.... – paleoprimal Mar 14 2012 at 14:27
Yea I agree. Splenda and stuff with sucralose have weird aftertastes. Not to mention causing bloating! – cocobean Feb 2 at 2:20
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Turns out this study done on rats was funded by the sugar-industry. The sugar industry HATES Splenda for daring to imply Splenda is made from sugar. They have a long running feud going.

According to the usually alarmist CSPI, (An organization which BTW originally opposed Splenda, but apparently later realized that their objection had no scientific merit) this rat study showing decreased gut-flora in rats was a weak study.

They say...

"More recently, a 2008 study funded by the sugar industry purported to show that large amounts of Splenda upset the balance of bacteria and had other effects in the gastrointestinal tract of rats. Unfortunately, the study was poorly designed; it should be repeated with an improved design before demonstrating a problem."

The rat study has also come under further scrutiny here...

Looks like I may have raised an alarm without true scientific merit. Please forgive me.

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People who worry about the impact of Splenda's chlorine on gut flora might benefit from examining their showering/bathing habits--if they live somewhere with chlorinated water. And the mechanism surprised me: it's not drinking the water, but breathing chlorine vapor. Chlorine absorbed this way is delivered directly to the blood stream (no first pass through the early stages of digestion), which delivers it pretty quickly to the lining of the gut where it may affect gut flora. That's the theory, anyhow.

As for me, I avoid Splenda for the same reason as all other artificial sweeteners: I worry that they reinforce my desire for things that taste unnaturally sweet, making it more difficult to control sweet cravings. About two weeks into paleo, I noticed a marked diminishing of my desire for sweets, to the degree that I could easily satisfy it with a piece of almost any type of sweet fruit--even berries, which I previously always wanted sweetened. I attribute my improved sweetness sensitivity to the elimination of refined sugars and artificial sweeteners. I also became more salt-sensitive.

As an aside, I was irritated by the opening sentence of the linked abstract: "Splenda is comprised of [stuff]" No, "Spenda is composed of [stuff]." Things either comprise stuff, or are composed of stuff, but are not comprised of stuff. Pedantic of me? Perhaps. But it is an academic abstract, after all.

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Very good observation about chlorine in water. – Mystery Man X Mar 15 2012 at 19:14
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+1 for grammar police. Another one I cringe at is when scientists say "utilized" instead of "used" – gydle Sep 29 at 7:13
Ha! I share this disdain for the overuse (over-utilization?) of the word "utilize." In nearly every case, "use" works fine or better. – Christopher Gagnon Oct 5 at 10:35
I do a lot of work with patent claims and comprised of or comprising is almost universally used to describe what makes up something. I thought this was wrong as well for a very long time, but then I actually looked up the definition of comprising and the usage is actually proper even if it does sound wrong. – scottts Oct 21 at 2:14
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I'd rather see a study done with only sucralose, not Splenda, which contains additional fillers.

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Yep. So would I. – Shari Bambino Mar 14 2012 at 18:49
The only filler in Splenda to my knowledge is maltodextrin, which is basically powdered glucose. But sucralose contains chlorine, which I feel may the culprit in screwing with gut flora. In fact, I have NEVER heard anyone talk about sucralose and gut flora, but being aware the stuff contains chlorine, and having just recently become aware that gut flora is a HUGE part of human health, I decided to google it, and this study was the first thing that came up. I didn't even have to dig far at all. – Mystery Man X Mar 14 2012 at 20:03
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I've never liked the taste of artificial sweeteners. I satisfy my sweet tooth with fresh fruit, organic fruit yogurt, and the occasional confection. Once in a while, I'll make a paleo dessert type food using purified stevia extract, but I always add a bit of maple syrup to improve the taste. Stevia by itself just doesn't cut it for me.

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I gave up all artificial sweeteners for my New Year's resolution and frankly, it was the best decision I ever made. This study only makes me feel that more strongly.

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Oh man.

This is not good news for my sweet tooth. I actually use the stuff pretty often as I have a bad reaction to all sugar alcohols, even erythritol which is supposed to be GI distress free.

Anyone have solutions except resigning oneself to a lifetime of frustrated sweet expectations? I use huge amounts of cinnamon to simulate 'sweetness', but sometimes ten teaspoons of cinnamon just doesn't cut it in a recipe.

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how about going zero sweetners for 30 days and seeing how you respond? – paleoprimal Mar 14 2012 at 14:28
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I switched to stevia last year. – Dave S. Mar 14 2012 at 14:36
I vote for stevia too. I love the NuNaturals Vanilla liquid the best. You just can't use too much or it gets bitter. Some brands of stevia are downright nasty so don't be cheap and buy some off brand. Stick with NuNaturals or Sweet Leaf. – Shari Bambino Mar 14 2012 at 18:51
Good idea, for some reason I don't tend to think of stevia. I use splenda often in whey protein powder and egg pancakes, do you think that stevia would still work there? – Jen Mar 14 2012 at 21:35
Jen, I thought working with stevia would screw everything up for me since I didn't know how to work with it but it really is easy to get a handle on once you know how to deal with it. And I would actually suggest Kal stevia (you can find it on Amazon easily, and for the cheapest price I've ever seen for good-quality stevia). I'm too cheap to buy NuNaturals and didn't like Sweet Leaf, and with Kal it's really easy to figure out how much to use. And yes, whichever brand you try, it will work in your recipes provided you know how much stevia will produce the desired sweetness. – OddBallin Mar 15 2012 at 21:30
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Watching a couple of Blaylock's talks on excitotoxins made sure I'd never touch the stuff again; not that it was a frequent occurrence before. I prefer a few drops of vanilla stevia for any sweetening I might desire. Thanks for the link to the study on splenda, interesting stuff.

Dr Russell Blaylock Nutrition and Behavior

EXCITOTOXINS: The Taste That Kills

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Yeah, this guy ruined nutrasweet for me years ago. So when Splenda came on the scene I thought great! But now I think it's probably not so great after all. Cause anything that destroys your healthy gut-flora just can't be good in the long-run. – Mystery Man X Mar 14 2012 at 20:12
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Interesting. I only use splenda.

I've come to the realization that everything is going to cause something. Call me crazy, but I'll take altered gut-flora over the known side effects of pure sugar-- rotten teeth, weight gain, and diabetes.

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why do either? How about a drip of honey when absolutely necessary? – gydle Mar 14 2012 at 18:00
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I hear ya. That used to be my reasoning as well. I figured I'd take the "small theoretica" risk of Splenda, rather than suffer ruined teeth and excess fructose exposure. But I've become VERY concerned about gut flora, as I now feel screwed up gut flora is a HUGE reason why there is an explosion of weird auto-immune diseases, IBS, GERD, and food reactions. So if Splenda kills off my healthy gut flora, it may be just as bad as real sugar. It sucks I know. A life with nothing sweet but an occasional piece of fruit is hard for me to contemplate, but perhaps required if health is to be optimized. – Mystery Man X Mar 14 2012 at 20:10
sugar will also alter your gut flora – Wozza Mar 15 2012 at 6:03
@ Wozza - Fructose or glucose? Or both? – Mystery Man X Mar 15 2012 at 12:30
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Mathy answers again:

I used to eat Splenda at a rate of up to 12 packets per day, which is 12g of product.

Then I weighed 125kg.

So my peak intake was 96mg/kg, putting me in the lowest dose group of the rats here.

I later replaced half of it with Stevia. Now I rarely use either because I broke my compulsion to sweeten things. But it's a good reason to add some probiotics every so often if you are using Splenda.

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I am wondering about Nectresss which gets it's sweetness from Monk Fruit Extract, the natural sweetener made from the goodness of real fruit. Monk Fruit Extract is an exciting new 100% natural sweetening ingredient that is about 150X sweeter than sugar, and contributes zero calories per serving to NECTRESSE™ Natural No Calorie Sweetener. Is this like Stevia - natural and not a gut buster?

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My addiction to Splenda has gotten so bad that I have to sell my body on the streets to maintain my supply.

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+1 for honesty. – Monte Sep 29 at 14:37
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I use Stevia... From the plant, or from the store shelf only if it's organic. It's sweet and delicious without a "weird" flavor!

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Came across this regarding the Chlorine in Splenda on SplendaTruth.com

*Myth: SPLENDA® Brand Sweetener contains chlorine and, therefore, must be dangerous.

Fact: Chlorine is a natural part of salt, which is found in many foods, like lettuce, tomatoes, mushrooms, melons, and peanut butter, and is added to most public water supplies. Chlorine is also a part of more complex molecules found in such things as lentils, peas, and potatoes. It is a part of daily life.

In the case of SPLENDA® Brand Sweetener, chlorine is used in a process that alters sugar to create the very stable no-calorie sweetener, sucralose. A large amount of research shows that sucralose can be used safely by everyone and that there is no cause for concern about safety because of chlorine. What's more, SPLENDA® Brand Sweetener does not build up in the body, nor is it broken down to yield any free chlorine or smaller chlorinated molecules, and sucralose is calorie-free.*

So of course they claim it's harmless.

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So I guess if I threw a bunch of tomatoes, shrooms and lettuce into my pool, it would keep the algae away? LOL – Nemesis Mar 14 2012 at 23:16
The chlorine in sucralose is supposed to be so tightly bonded to the sugar molecule that it does not breakdown in the body and become free chlorine. I've ready reports of sucralose being found in waste water treatment plants in unaltered from passage through humans. OTOH, the weak ionic bonds holding salt NaCl molecules together break immediately on contact with water so free chlorine is easily produced in the gut. In fact we need some of that to make stomach acid which is just HCL. I don't see the issue with chlorine in sucralose. – scottts Oct 21 at 2:35
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I'm a sweet toothed monster, Love sweet stuff, since eating more of a paleo style diet I've gotten used to enjoying fruits (esp pineapple) and agave syrup, and raw honey, so yummy. In my coffee or tea I always use stevia, it is all natural and has a sweetening effect.

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Agave is crap IMO. It's like 90% fructose, which is the most "evil" of the sugars. Honey is only about 50% fructose, with the less problematic monosaccharide glucose making up the remaining 50% or so. – Mystery Man X Mar 15 2012 at 12:32
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I'm trying to break the Splenda addiction... I accidentally bought a box of Splenda "with added fiber" a few weeks ago and it seems even more unnatural that way. I keep telling myself when I'm done with that box I'm going to quit, but I'm thinking about going cold turkey starting right now haha.

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Yup, was at costco the other day, and out of curiosity picked up a back of "100% Whey Protein", I don't know how these mofos get away with this $#!+, but the ingredient list contained not only splenda, but also artificial flavoring, and soy protein! Bunch of sneaky liars!

If you don't read the ingredients and only go by the label, you're the sucker and you pay with your health.

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I loved some of the less sweet brands of no-added-sugar ice cream sweetened with Splenda but gave them up because they consistently gave me the runs.

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Xylitol seems like a good alternative.

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This study was funded by the sugar industry which hates Splenda - while one could argue that the study was flawed because it did not identify what ingredient in Splenda was responsible and instead targeted Splenda sweetener directly. Irregardless the findings are legitimate. The rats who were fed Splenda suffered a reduction of gut flora - although on thinking about it - I don't remember reading about a control group which would have made the study even more accurate. After taking a round of antibiotics for an infection and never replenishing my gut flora and having suffered a series of strange infections that doctors have tried to provide more antibiotics to cure - I have started looking into gut flora. What is known is that it exists and that it is important to have flora for a healthy gut but what is not known is what types of bacteria are healthy to have - etc. they're still discovering what bacteria are present in our guts. I'm off Splenda and doig what I can to restore healthy bacteria to my gut.

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I love it when people start going all chemistry when talking about Splenda/Sucralose I understand that those theories are all based on years of science, but it would be nice to see tangible proof. Next time someone takes their little sub atomic ship down someones gut, maybe they can put a dash cam on there and post the video of those chlorine atoms. I just know that when I consume Splenda or Sucralose my gut swells up, the ER has thought I have kidney stones, I gain weight, I break out and I need ten times as much flavoring to taste anything. That is just the beginning. I don't care how many covalent bonds someone talks about, something is flawed with the science in my body. I wish it wouldn't have taken 5 years to figure it out, but glad I did. Symptoms started again until I found it in my toothpaste and hair gel (Sucralose). Now I feel great again.

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