Paleo Diet and Paleolithic Diet Questions & Answers

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One thing I picked up from listening to and reading some of Ray Peat's stuff was that most ice creams contain thickeners and stabilizers, including cellulose, and that virtually only Haagen Dazs is legitimate ice cream anymore.

Now I see that they're working cellulose into hot dogs to make them "healthier," and while I don't buy hot dogs I'm going to check any frozen meat products closely in the future.

Ice cream and hot dogs aren't paleo, but I also know that the only heavy whipping cream I can find has thickeners and stabilizers in it. Anyone have a "hit list" of quietly modified foods (that would normally be considered paleo) to watch out for?

flag	asked Mar 20 2012 at 22:23 alwayscurious 638●3●5

Are hot dogs really "not paleo"? Ground meat in a natural casing = pretty darn paleo. – Satchmo Mar 20 2012 at 22:46

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I hear grass-fed beef has alot of cellulose in it. ;) – Matt Mar 20 2012 at 23:06

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Here are some ice cream recipes: paleohacks.com/questions/104162/… You can also make your own yoghurt, sour cream, creme fraiche, cottage cheese, mascarpone or even hard cheeses. The soft ones are quite easy to make. :) – PaleoGran Mar 21 2012 at 15:21

Tikivana · Accepted Answer · 2012-03-20 23:24:23Z UTC

It's the higher-temp pasturization that requires that they add the stablizers and gums to the heavy cream. I'm lucky to have found a source of vat-pasturized Jersery cream in bottles. But it's not cheap, around $4 a pint. There's also one local commercial dairy in our area that isn't high-temp pasturizing their whipping cream, and oddly enough, it's the cheapest of all the brands, and doesn't have stabilizers. Alpenrose, if you're in the NW. It doesn't taste nearly as good as the grass fed Jersey stuff, however, but I'll buy it if my source of the good stuff has run out.

Todd · Answer 2 · 2012-03-20 23:00:48Z UTC

Not sure about a "hit list" but I will say there's thickening agents and stabilizers in almost anything in a package these days...

Read the labels... I can't say it enough. I used to buy all sorts of things when I first was learning the ropes and during hurried trips to Whole Foods and brought them home thinking I did well. Then I do a once-over of the label again and find out there's something I dont want in there.

Hidden Cellulose - any other foods to watch out for?

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