Paleo Diet and Paleolithic Diet Questions & Answers

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I love the paleo diet. It has helped me so much in so many ways. But sometimes I find it hard to eat enough I think. There is only so much meat, fish or greens I can physically chomp my way through, and now that I've lost that little bit of 'middle-area' weight from hips and tum, I don't really have much to spare if you know what I mean? And I'm starting to get hungry again..not crazy craving shaky hungry, but genuine hunger (I think). Feeling progressively weaker, then better when I eat.

So does anyone have any ideas for high cal high-fat snacks that maybe I could have inbetween meals? pref dairy free, as I am too reliant on them at the moment and think I may need to lose em. I can't imagine going back to eating the old way, and want to avoid being tempted!

Thank you paleo people! :D

flag	asked Mar 21 2012 at 21:19 Helz 135●1●6

I'm having the same issue. I eat 3 meals a day and I'm struggling to reach 1000 calories. I'm eating chicken nearly every day and at least one avocado and I still can't get to 1200 which is my aim – Julia May 17 2012 at 10:36

Jen · Accepted Answer · 2012-03-23 00:00:01Z UTC

make things in coconut cream based sauces...become a high fat curry master, with the rich thick sauces you won't miss rice or naan one bit.

-you can add unsweetened coconut meat and cream or coconut cream to a bowl of berries to up the caloric ante.

-eat your greens with plenty of melted butter if you aren't already.

-add a handful of chopped nuts to steamed veggies and salads.

-dried fruit can pack in a truly stunning calorie count as well.

-try making your own nut and seed bars. I make sweet and salty pumpkin seed bites with a little honeycomb and seaweed, a handful will set me back 250-300 calories.

I made flax meal 'bread' today and managed to pack in over 800 calories in eating a few slices with my chicken stew without even blinking. Soooo good.

Here you are Helz: I use this recipe for flax seed bread: http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/breads/r/flaxbasicfoc.htm and add my own herbs and spices, it's amazingly good! Everything I ever missed about bread and more.

I don't find the coconut cream has all that strong a flavor, but then again I really love coconut. I get it in a little can, it's coconut 'cream' not coconut milk, although I think adding coconut oil to coconut milk would have the same effect.

Butter is key for eating sauteed veggies. If you aren't buying pastured butter already see if you can manage it because it tastes totally different than regular butter, you will want to drink it.

This is my recipe for "Ursula Bars" (remember the sea witch from the little mermaid?) 3 tbsp butter or coconut oil 1/2 cup pulverized pumpkin seeds or seed butter 1/2 cup pulverized macadamia nuts or butter 4 oz of raw honeycomb (I like the wax but you can remove it) 4 sheets of toasted nori, shredded 4 eggs 2 scoops of unflavored protein powder (optional, ups the protein stats and makes them hold together a little better) 1/2 cup unsweetened shredded coconut

Mix everything together but add the protein powder last or it will become too gluey to mix. Spread about 1 inch thick on a baking sheet and bake for about 15 min on 350, or until the tops brown and feel springy to the touch. Sometimes I add things like vanilla, cinnamon, cloves, lime juice or orange peel syrup for variety but they taste good just like this.

Happy munching!

Paul · Answer 2 · 2012-03-21 23:17:07Z UTC

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I've the same problem! I try to keep nuts out and pufas low in addition to no grains and legumes. I don't restrict starches and fruits nowadays. Even on high fat paleo I was eating a lower cal diet and couldn't force myself to eat more meat and butter.

I don't understand overweight people who even gain pounds on a whole foods diet. Do they force feed themselves over vomit inducing satiety? I'd love to spend a day with these kind of people to learn all their tricks.

At some point I'll probably need to go back to fast food, grains and pizza but those foods are evil, right?

answered Mar 21 2012 at 23:17

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	Amen brother. It is very difficult to get a bunch of calories on a whole foods diet, unless you are drowning everything in fat. – ROB Mar 22 2012 at 0:03
	I have some rye bread in the freezer, and when I get hungry I am so tempted to defrost some and eat it. But I'd like to give this at least 6 months to really give it a chance and see if my body adapts..in almost every other respect I am feeling great! BTW I did have a small bag of crisps the other day (first and only fall off the wagon so far, I blame hormones!) but the actual thought of eating white bread, for instance makes me feel sick! Which is weird seeing as I used to love the stuff! – Helz Mar 22 2012 at 18:10
	Try to be a little less judgmental. Fat people like me eat for the same reason you do. We are hungry....we eat. The difference is something in us gets broken by SAD and we get and stay hungry. It's so much better on Paleo and gets better each month but RE: SAD foods I could still eat 2 Large Pizzas without trying... – Satchmo Mar 23 2012 at 4:00
	LikesLardinMayo - I agree, we all have similar problems whether we are overweight or not. I used to eat ALL the time, and people would be jealous because I did not get fat, but in reality I was tormented by hunger and had terrible digestion! Other people, my mum for instance, can eat very little on the SAD diet but still keep carrying extra weight - she eats like 1000 calories a day! I wish I could get her to try paleo. Hopefully, over time, our bodies will become fully nourished, and so the need to eat all the time will subside. Good luck on your journey to good health! :) – Helz Mar 23 2012 at 15:27

JeJ · Answer 3 · 2012-03-21 22:27:30Z UTC

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Glug olive oil onto things. Adds an amazing amount of calories without even noticing (my boyfriend uses this trick all the time, just puts it on everything). This way it doesn't feel like you are "choking down" anything simply because you are not hungry, just allows the food you're already eating to pack an extra punch.

answered Mar 21 2012 at 22:27

JeJ
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Thanks! I do eat a fair amount of olive oil, butter, ghee and coconut oil, but maybe I need more! :) Part of it is trying to re-educate myself about fat I think. Psychologically I still find lard difficult to approach, and shudder when I see what comes off the bacon, even though I love the stuff. Its a lifetime of antifat messages! :) – Helz Mar 22 2012 at 18:12

Phoenix · Answer 4 · 2012-03-21 22:51:16Z UTC

I have this problem sometimes too. I actually need to count my calories to make sure I'm getting enough. Things that are awesome:

Macadamia nut butter. The kind I buy is actually cheaper than buying macadamia nuts. Super calorie bomb! Any nut butter is a calorie bomb really, but macadamia has the benefit of being low in polyunsaturated fats.
Any sort of coconut product: coconut oil, coconut milk, creamed coconut, shredded coconut.
Do you eat carbs? Bananas are a super convenient calorie source. You can make tons of butter/coconut oil disappear into a pile of mashed potatoes.
Other things: dark chocolate, hard-boiled egg yolks, avocados

TerraGuy · Answer 5 · 2012-03-21 22:15:58Z UTC

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Nuts are quite calorie-heavy. I ate almond pizza's a few weeks ago. Those were 2500calories!

I do a lot of sports and didn't have to lose any weight, but still lost 10 pounds.. I got a few back on by eating really really really much, but now I miss the times I don't have a full belly all day long..

answered Mar 21 2012 at 22:15

TerraGuy
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	Hi, do you have a recipe for almond pizza base that works for you, or maybe a link to one? Sorry for all the questions folks but I need all the info I can get right now! :) – Helz Mar 22 2012 at 19:56
	I watched this video first, to see how it's done: youtube.com/watch?v=Nntl_m66ieg And then you can make your own variations. I like this one, because of the rosemary ;) : everydaypaleo.com/2010/08/04/everyday-paleo-pizza But I make my own toppings, just top it with what you like or what you have in your fridge ;) – TerraGuy Mar 23 2012 at 17:46
	Thank you! Can't wait to try this. You guys have all been so very helpful! :D – Helz Mar 25 2012 at 19:04

Dorado Galore · Answer 6 · 2012-03-23 16:40:31Z UTC

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"Feeling progressively weaker, then better when I eat."

If this were my report, I would ... eat ... more. Especially if I felt I had lost the weight I wanted to lose.

answered Mar 23 2012 at 16:40

Dorado Galore
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Well, yeah..but I wouldn't be asking this question if I wasn't having trouble doing just that. I get full very easily, so I need high calorie stuff, which some people have made some great suggestions for! – Helz Mar 25 2012 at 19:03

Lorraine · Answer 7 · 2012-09-18 04:59:34Z UTC

There is just no way to get enough calories on this diet. I can not ever get to 2,000-2,500 I need, no matter how many avocadoes, olive oil, nuts I add. And there is only so much meat/fish/fowl and vegetables, even starchy vegetables, one can eat. I am a female, 5 ft 7, 105 lbs BEFORE PALEO. I did NOT need to lose weight, yet I did, down to 100, emaciated. Had to stop. Ectomorph

Mili · Answer 8 · 2013-02-11 19:42:04Z UTC

This is my plan. When I've lost enough weight to get back into the light weight rowing category. I will re introduce carbs at breakfast and lunch. Just a few, i.e. porridge at breakfast and a seeded pitta bread at lunch.

Added bonus of oats and pitta being cheaper than buying 10 million bananas and eggs and bacon (current breakfast) and 346719807 salad ingredients and chicken (current lunch).

I think the principles of the diet are the things we need to follow, expecially if you're an athlete.

Perhaps start carb cycling, so be completely paleo one day, low carbs the next, medium, high, then another paleo day before starting the cycle again. That should allow you to gain weight, but never too much weight :D

Does anyone here have problems getting enough calories?

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