Paleo Diet and Paleolithic Diet Questions & Answers

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Situation: You have a carb binge one night about 80-100g and you are carb sensitive.

in order to enter ketosis as soon as possible the next day. do you

A) intermittently fast

or

B) eat lots of fat and no protein or carbs.

Which one is more likely to induce a stronger and quicker Ketogenic state?

flag	asked Mar 29 2012 at 16:43 Lucas 391●4●14

I vote for coconut oil. Or have a vampire drain all your blood. – Dave S. Mar 29 2012 at 17:58

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80-100g and you call that a binge??? I call that dinner. – Dave S. Mar 29 2012 at 17:59

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After the vampire sucks your blood, you will need to replenish electrolytes with orange juice or Gatorade. – Dave S. Mar 29 2012 at 18:01

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C) Go to sleep. All the advantages of A without having to pay attention. Then get up and eat some bacon and eggs. – August Apr 13 2012 at 21:02

badly_dubbed · Accepted Answer · 2012-03-29 17:20:39Z UTC

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lift weights. google CKD depletion workout.

cyclical ketogenic diets regularly carb load then try to deplete glycogen to re-enter ketosis as quickly as possible.

answered Mar 29 2012 at 17:20

badly_dubbed
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That could work depending on how bad the binge was. – Dave S. Mar 29 2012 at 17:59

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well 80-100g isnt dire... – badly_dubbed Mar 29 2012 at 18:46

no but its still enough to kick you out of ketosis considering its the alcohol i drank would inhibit fat burning. – Lucas Mar 29 2012 at 19:31

yes i know badly dubbed, but its not the question. Im asking about if fasting vs eating high fat.... which would allow for a quicker and stronger ketogenic response. im aware of the effects of exercise on muscle and liver glycogen depletion but the option of exercise is not part of the question despite its superior ability to establish a state of ketosis i merely want to examine the non exercise induced forms of ketosis for those times when exercise just isn't happening sleep deprivation vacation hungover etcetera or whatever the case may be...thanks for the answer though – Lucas Mar 29 2012 at 19:35

sheltron5000 · Answer 2 · 2012-03-29 17:09:08Z UTC

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Neither. Ketosis is induced through the absence of carbohydrates. Thus, eating nothing vs. eating only fat == same result. Do whichever one feels right to you.

answered Mar 29 2012 at 17:09

sheltron5000
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Well, you can acheive some level of ketosis in the presence of carbs using MCT oil (like coconut oil) and/or the amino acids lycine & luecine. – Dave S. Mar 29 2012 at 17:57

That's not ketosis though, its the production of ketones. Not the same. – sheltron5000 Mar 29 2012 at 18:03

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Really? The definition of ketosis is elevated ketones in the blood. How is this not the same? – Dave S. Mar 29 2012 at 18:14

And epileptics sucessfully use a "modified Atkins" diet that is 30-40% CHO with MCT oil to generate ketones and it works as well as the strict (90% fat) ketogenic diet at controlling seizures. – Dave S. Mar 29 2012 at 18:17

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Oops, sorry Dave. You're right. I thought ketosis required ketogenesis from body fat. Obviously the neurological benefits of ketone bodies doesn't vary by their source. – sheltron5000 Mar 30 2012 at 16:10

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camila · Answer 3 · 2012-03-30 02:07:57Z UTC

I drink coffee w/ heavy cream in the morning and sprint the sh*t out of a workout, and any juice left in me, I body weight tabatas (burpees, split squats, pull-ups, mountain climbers, and/or stationary bike).

that depletes it right outta ya, then I have a protein-y meal when I get hungry.

Team Oberg · Answer 4 · 2012-04-13 18:05:46Z UTC

Fasting wins for me hands down. I do not want to say that a fast is an excuse to eat like crap, but it is kind of like church. You may have committed some food sins, but do your penance and there is no need to feel guilty about them anymore. I worship at the house of IF every time I have a diet slip up.

Cody · Answer 5 · 2012-03-29 19:20:41Z UTC

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I'd go with a lot of fat and some protein. And water. Lots of water.

answered Mar 29 2012 at 19:20

Cody
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	what does water have to do with anything? – jake Mar 29 2012 at 19:34
	helps the liver clear out whatever the carb binge was - not so critical if it was totally clean carbs – Cody Apr 10 2012 at 22:18

coconut oil and ketosis

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