I don't understand why people make Paleo treats, cakes an pastries. It's like hey I've found the great simple eating plan, but I still want to eat all the crap it ate before, but because it's made from Paleo ingredients it's good for me. The high levels of Fat is another thing. If they look at the game animals we buy now, which would be similar to the games the Paleo peep hunted, they have very minimal fat. Somewhere near 3%. Paleo has lost its simplicity. If it hasire than 3 ingredients, don't eat it

• the fear of fruit
• the fear of starchy veggies
• obsession with coconut products, even for people who likely never had it in their heritage
• obsessive adding of a lot of extra fat to every meal -- there's no reason to pour straight up coconut oil over your meal.
• obsessive counting of carb grams, even non-starchy veggies
• obsessive manipulation of supplementation to reach "perfect" nourishment
• obsessive focus on eating animal protein at every meal
• feeling of superiority and condecension that can come through when talking about other people's eating habits.

i guess i don't love how many people still eat according to external cues instead of truly listening to their bodies and trying to understand what makes them feel their best. i essentially did all of the things above and meanwhile have realized that: fruit and tubers make my body feel good, coconut does not. counting carbs drives me mental. supplementation was expensive and actually didn't make a difference. my body doesn't want meat every meal, and it certainly doesn't want excessive amounts of fat. we tend to give a lot of our power away by taking on other people's beliefs about how to eat -- stop just following others' mandates! start thinking for yourself!

eating HUGE amounts of fat just for the sake of it, even if that means eating more total calories than you probably need to

Still don't get the obsession many Paleo folks have with Crossfit, lol. You do it, great! Not my thing, nor will it ever be (so, don't push it on me, plus I'm bigger than you so leave me alone, kidding, lol). I run into so many fanatical Paleo Crossfitters it's become quite comical. Time will show the numerous injuries and burnout Crossfit does to folks (especially those who are obsessive with it, I know a few burnouts/injured already). Others will continue moderate/aggressive routines and be fine (good for you). Just a fad IMO. Get your butt out there and just move (and move often) is my opinion (and add some strength training if you so desire).

As for eating habits (what people eat), I could care less. To each his/her own I say. If it works for you, by all means eat/ingest it. Bottom line, just stay away from a SAD diet ; ) Paleo on folks!

I don't get why so many get so defensive about their potatoes. Eat them! Enjoy them! Don't yell at me because I eat them less than you do and otherwise advocate a low carb approach for myself.

As much as I like coconut oil (I cook with it, use it for a dip with beef jerky, and occasionally put it in chai tea), I don't know about all the "mix this with coconut oil to make deodorant, use coconut oil as lube/face cream/shampoo/toothpaste/diaper ointment".

I eat 2-3 strips of bacon every day. I can't say that bacon is a wonderful food source, but it's a quick and non-filling (calorically equivalent to a small steak but in a smaller package) calorie dump when I need it. I understand this craze - a food that was labelled "bad" has been upgraded to "meh, you might can do better" on Paleo, so people approach it with semi-carte blanche.

I like bone broths - but don't necessarily feel they are any more a healing food than I am the Dali Lama. Nutritive and mentally calming, yes... wonderfood/superfood, meh.

Not into the megadosing of certain vitamins/minerals. I take a few things here/there (zinc/mag/b6 and cod liver oil), but unless countered with some sort of a deficiency, I don't think I feel it necessary.

And I might get some flack for this, but I really, truely do not understand when people say "I'm eating 1500 calories, and crossfitting 7 days a week, plus weightlifting in the evenings, and I run 17 miles every two days - why am I not losing weight?". Similar posts seem to pop up on PH every freaking day... and every time I read one I can feel the veins pop out on my forehead.

I kinda miss the "old school" paleo craze, pemmican. It doesn't get much press anymore. I might have to make some now...

I don't get recipes. For me the whole point is you don't need a recipe, you just eat plain, unadulterated, simple, real, unprocessed food. Done. Give me a slab of meat/fish/chicken with veggies and I'm cool...

I'm taking a different avenue - I don't get why other people, ESP. Vegetarians and Vegans hate Paleo no matter how much I educate them on "we aren't eating meat 24-7." My diet is similar to a Vegan diet, just add eggs and some meat and remove the soy. I eat far more veggies than I do animals. Actually, I eat more veggies than any Vegan I know. I also happen to have more animals as pets than any Vegan I know. Are other Paleo crazies ruining it for us? I just don't get the deep hatred for Paleo peeps.

Don't get coconut oil. It doesn't work for me. Being scared of fruit is really BS to me. Going without starchy veggies I don't understand.

asking permission to eat something on paleohacks - just eat it and your body will get back to you if you are serious about it, otherwise eat anything and wear a paleo T-Shirt and you are cool in a crowd.

I don't get bone broth or organ meats. I've never tried either of them, and I'd like to, but it seems like they must be more trouble than they're worth!

where do I begin? Can't tolerate coconut milk (thank you fodmaps), don't like the taste/feel of most fats, and have particular trouble with animal fats, don't like meat, and am totally skeeved by organ meats (other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the show?)

If left to my own devices, I'd get 100% of my calories from sugar and mainline diet coke. Unfortunately for my natural preferences, I do best on a high protein, high veg diet, so I mostly follow the paleo plan of eating, but it's definitely not natural for me.

• Bone broth - I don't think there's anything magic in there. It's good for a soup base and that's about it.
• Gelatin - It's a bunch of non-essential amino acids...
• Coconut oil - For its own sake, coconut oil is wacky. Now, cook with it and it's a fine fat to use.
• Bacon - (in all things). A little bit of bacon now and then is perfectly fine, probably don't eat more than half a pound a month (and only that much because that's how I packaged them when we butchered the pig). I scratch my head how some folks eat 2-3 pounds per person per week!

That to some it seems to be more about muscles/looks than about health.

Nothing wrong with not being keen on bacon! Me, I grew up Muslim, so pork is something I know nothing about (but would like to try). But whenever I smell it I feel funny because of the association that pig is bad and dirty.

I don't really get marrow. I don't know how to prepare it, that's probably why, but I'm still overcoming the ick factor. I get my marrow in my bone broth in liquified form, but I can only slurp out little bits that come attached to my lamb chops and even then I feel a bit queasy...

I also can't stomach heart or kidney, again because I grew up in a culture that is totally close-minded and somehow favours neat, packaged slabs of muscle meat completely removed from its origin. I know people get so grossed out when we talk about organ meats partly because it reminds them that meat actually came from a creature.

I think avocados are gross too. I tend to dislike most kinds of 'plant fat', unless it's coconut oil, and only when that's used to cook an animal product.

I think there's a difference between how your body reacts to something and not "getting" a concept. Obviously, if your system can't handle coconut, you shouldn't eat it. That has nothing to do with your lack of understanding or some fault in the coconut advocates.

For me, the crazes I don't "get" are the obsession with elimination diets for FODMAPs and nightshades. For some people that have auto-immune or inflammation problems, sure...but the idea that you should take the time to eliminate entire families of vegetables and fruits just to see if they do cause you problems is hogwash. If you have a legitimate problem, get an allergy test. I think the Primal Palate people are doing some sort of elimination diet right now...why?

Hands down the coconut fat obsession. Coconut oil is highly processed. Coconut milk (cream) doesn't just drip from a coconut. I'm not sure it was on this board or not, but someone once issued a challenge of sorts. Get a real coconut in it's whole state. Not just the brown shell that has been pre-scored to crack easily with a little whack either. Now go get the coconut meat out of that coconut. There's no doubt our paleo ancestors in that climate would have eaten this food. There's also no doubt that they didn't consume up to several coconuts' worth of the fat daily.

Oh, and I know it's not an obsession, but I don't get ANYONE buying Primal Fuel!!

I don't understand the orange juice and carrots.

Never understood bone broth. Gelatin works better for me, and you don't even have to prepare it.
Never understood bacon, until I looked at the nutritional value and was a bit amazed to see it's pretty nutritious.
Never understood the fatty fish craze. I react better to non-fatty fish.
Never understood the retinol toxicity fear and vitamin D craze.
Never understood the magnesium hype.
I wish I could also say "Never understood the fructose fear", but I feared fructose for a long time myself.

Edit : Never understood the berries-craze. What's up with that? For what reason are berries better than any other fruit??? They happen to cause issues for me in big amounts ,most likely due to the tiny seeds.

I don't understand the high fat eating. I can't figure out how its healthy. Also, trying to eat paleo is pretty expensive

I react to coconut so EVCO is of the list....

Paleo shakes....I seriously don't get it.

If you just had jaw surgery, fine, mix or blend away.

But for the rest of us, as a meal replacement...how hard is it for you to chew your food? Bodybuilders, if you can lift those bad ass weights, why can't you be bothered to chew a steak?

Sure a blender can do what your teeth do, but food should ideally be slowly mixed with saliva to start the digestive process for good nutrient uptake unless you are mixing salivary amylase into your beverage.

Seems like it might also lead to mindless munching and overconsumption outside of shake time, since shakes deprive the consumer of a "true" meal sensory experience.

ridiculously analytically scientific explanations

for everything

How would ancestral peoples have had access to as much fat as modern paleo dieting demands? Free ranging animals are lean. Once taken and dressed, their fat has to be rendered for storage, and this requires cooking techniques beyond an open fire, as well as pottery. Fat storage is a Neolithic development. Beyond narrow paleo scenarios of abundant seals and buffaloes, getting a good yield of fat from animals requires domesticating them.

It seems likely to me that paleos rarely ate high fat meals. None of the highly rewarding fats from butter, coconut oil, fish oil or bacon. More likely the occasional rancid greasy joint.