Paleo Diet and Paleolithic Diet Questions & Answers

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I have read through the fabulous book, Nutrition and physical degeneration, by Price, but have been unable to find specific food sources that would allow many tropical cultures (melanesians, eg.) to acquire high amounts of calcium. He made special reference to activator vitamins that these people would get from the sea, supposedly in higher amounts than pastoralists (seeing as how they got tons more calcium from high dairy intake). I chcked certain vitamins and minerals out, like k2 is supposedly available in scant amounts from most sea foods, and minerals like zinc which are high in sea foods are also found in abundance in land animals. So i'm wondering if anyone has a better understanding to this---how are those tropical cultures getting enough calcium and/or what are the activators Price refers to coming from the sea. Thanks again for any input!

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Wcc Kamal Stabby fan · Answer 1 · 2012-04-01 02:16:13Z UTC

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K2 is abundant in seafood but you have to eat the organ meats (like fish liver) to get it.

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/01/seafood-and-vitamin-k2.html

answered Apr 1 2012 at 2:16

Wcc Kamal Stabby fan
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that article says the richest sources of k2 in seafood is the organs and gonads. he then follows up by stating "Gonads are one of the richest sources of K2 MK-4 in fish, containing 5-10 micrograms of MK-4 per kilogram of tissue". Meanwhile hard cheeses contain 76 mcg/100g.....so 5-10mcg isn't very significant....Stephan even says so..."... Even that is not really an impressive concentration. (in regards to the 5-10mcg in fish gonads)" – Steven Apr 1 2012 at 2:48

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p.s. who could ever eat a kg of gonads? – Steven Apr 1 2012 at 2:49

cliff · Answer 2 · 2012-04-01 01:50:50Z UTC

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bones, vegetables etc.

answered Apr 1 2012 at 1:50

cliff
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	i read food and western disease, by Lindeberg, and there was no mention of bones from my memory.... and i'm pretty sure vegetables would have to be consumed in mass (not realistic) amounts to get significant amounts of calcium--i think it'd be like 10+ cups of kale for the rda. – Steven Apr 1 2012 at 1:55
	A lot of tribes eat small fishes with bones or make broth type things. He probably didn't mention that they eat fish heads either, which is a very important part of there diet. All plant food gives you calcium and that adds up pretty fast. – cliff Apr 1 2012 at 12:17
	so you're saying the soul purpose this guy went around the world for, to understand the dental status of primitive cultures and factors why the might me more or less susceptible to tooth carries, and he forgot to mention that certain peoples ate bone broths and fish heads? are you joking? he mentioned every food, every color of the food, even how foods were obtained with painstaking detail. And most vegetables have tons of oxalates that prevent calcium absorption. give specific examples for these areas if you're going with the vegetable theory – Steven Apr 1 2012 at 14:28

Aughra · Answer 3 · 2012-04-01 13:31:35Z UTC

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Supposedly the coral from shellfish like lobster, crawfish, or crab might have those activators in them. Most people just eat the claw and tail meat though. Dont just pinch the tail, Suck those heads!!!

answered Apr 1 2012 at 13:31

Aughra
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	what heads and where are you getting your activator data from? – Steven Apr 1 2012 at 14:29
	westonaprice.org/food-features/… – Aughra Apr 1 2012 at 21:02
	lol It's a Nawlin's phrase. "Pinch the tail, and suck the head" concerning crawfish – Aughra Apr 1 2012 at 21:06

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