Blog

2

On one of the East West Healing Podcasts, Ray Peat talks about keto acids. He says they are great for the brain, and can easily be converted to amino acids.

As a therapeutic aid, he recommends centrifugal juicing of potatoes (to remove starch) and to cook the remaining liquid. This can be used as a therapeutic tool as it is high in keto acids.

Dr. Peat also mentions how he saw some people cure their problems with this in a matter of days. I don't remember what problems they were, but it was related to the brain.


My questions :

  • Did anyone try this out?
  • Is there a good recipe for this? I have no idea where to start.
flag
Do you drink this with the salty OJ or separately? – Satchmo Apr 11 2012 at 2:27
Does it matter, LikesLardinMayo? – Bruno Apr 15 2012 at 9:00

3 Answers

10

If you really want the benefits of ketones, go on a ketogenic diet. Neuroprotection is its forte. See for example:

THE NEUROPROTECTIVE PROPERTIES OF CALORIE RESTRICTION, THE KETOGENIC DIET, AND KETONE BODIES

Neuroprotective and disease-modifying effects of the ketogenic diet

[T]here is evidence from uncontrolled clinical trials and studies in animal models that the ketogenic diet can provide symptomatic and disease-modifying activity in a broad range of neurodegenerative disorders including Alzheimer’s disease and Parkinson’s disease, and may also be protective in traumatic brain injury and stroke. These observations are supported by studies in animal models and isolated cells that show that ketone bodies, especially β-hydroxybutyrate, confer neuroprotection against diverse types of cellular injury.

link|flag
4 
What a hilarious downvote. I love this place. – Ambimorph Apr 8 2012 at 23:39
2 
I don't want to be the "if it didn't work, you weren't doing it right" type -- it's plausible to me that some people don't fare as well on LC for a variety of reasons. Nonetheless, I do think that sometimes there are simple things that can make the difference. Do you think all of the problems you had could be attributed to the insomnia? Certainly fatigue and bags under the eyes would seem to be directly related. One doesn't have to look very far on the net to see that insomnia in ketosis is not uncommon. I hadn't noticed that before. I'm going to look into it! – Ambimorph Apr 9 2012 at 15:35
2 
Past experience leads me to believe that there is no point in getting into discourse with you, cliff. – Ambimorph Apr 15 2012 at 16:27
3 
Nice cop out.... – cliff Apr 15 2012 at 18:11
2 
FYI keto-acids aren't ketones – cliff Apr 15 2012 at 18:12
show 8 more comments
5

Bruno,

In a desperate move I tried out the fried potato juice thing because of Dr. Peat. (I have been eating Peat style since August 2011) So, I ran out of soy-free eggs and was not a happy camper since I usually have them for dinner or use them in a dinner recipe. I have been avoiding starch because of Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. Also the potatoes I had were starting to sprout. Basically: Potato juice sounded like a great solution. I was hungry, it might "cure" some of my gut issues, it was starch-free.

I don't have a juicer, so I peeled them then used a cheese grater. Then I used cheesecloth to "milk" the shavings. I ended up with a bowl of clear liquid. Then I heated up a frying pan with some butter. When I went to pour the liquid in there was still some liquid but a giant layer of "clay"-like near solid glop at the bottom of the bowl. I decided to put the whole of the contents into the pan.

It fried up gray, sticky, and gloppy. 5 giant potatoes made about 2 fried eggs sized portion.

It mostly tasted like butter and salt and had the consistency of chewy glop.

I felt sick as a dog after I ate it and bloated up like I had actually eaten all 5 of those potato's.

Failure. ICK!

link|flag
1 
From what I remember of the interview, you should have kept only the juice- the clay likely had starch in it. I occasionally go on amazon and look at the centrifugal juicers precisely because I want to try this- but it seems a high expense for something I might do once and not like. – August Apr 10 2012 at 19:50
1 
Oops. I missed that part! I thought the starch was the 'meat' of the potato. Haha! I have my soy-free eggs back and now I bought some backyard chickens, so I won't be likely to repeat the potato experiment any time soon! Those juicers are pretty pricey. I try to keep my money for espresso setup! :) – Senneth Apr 10 2012 at 20:32
1 
Backyard chickens sound like an awesome idea. I need a garden :). – Korion Apr 12 2012 at 7:04
3

I did try potato juice according to Ray peat. But i hated the taste of cooked juice. So i drank potato juice mixed with fruit juices. I drank no more than 200 ml. After making the juice i let it stand in a glass for 5 minutes and then throw away the starch sediments on the bottom. I felt great, that gave me an instant energy boost. But i think it also gave me slight stomach problem. I already have a very sensitive stomach. You have to be very very careful with how you choose your potato. Sprouted potatoes are full of poison. One should peeled the potato to remove most of the poison, solanin. We should not eat a potato if it has green patch or is sprouted. We also have to removes those eyes. Cooking does not inactivate this poison. I stopped making potato juice after reading that people died eating cooked potato. Poisonous potato usually tastes very bitter. So that is one way to understand if its ok to eat or not. I follow Ray Peats advice and he is an absolute genius. For Seneth, Ray Peat recommends a glass of water with 2+ table spoon of sugar and some salt to aid sleep. I tried it and its fantastic. I never thought sugar and salt can be a sleep cure.

link|flag
The sugar and salt before bed improved my sleep tremendously, but ice cream works WAY better at the moment. And it's also very delicious. What's weird is that the ice cream seems to soothe my stomach, while I expected the opposite. – Bruno Apr 15 2012 at 8:56
rashed -I thought Ray said to always cook the juice. I think the whole potato juice thing is just a big hassle. Also thanks for the sleep advice, but I have always slept great -Peat or no Peat. I agree with you about Ray being a genius. I am feeling so much better!! – Senneth Apr 16 2012 at 15:38

Your Answer

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.