Paleo Diet and Paleolithic Diet Questions & Answers

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Hey. I just read this and found it fascinating. THe link is provided below. Scientists are wondering if there is some environmental factor, potentially an endocrine disruptor of some sort, that is causing even wild animals - such as horses grazing on pasture- to keep getting fatter and fatter. Here's the link where I read it.

http://www.ergo-log.com/animalsfatter.html

I am just interested in peoples' thoughts. Have any?

flag	asked Apr 12 2012 at 17:33 foreveryoung 15.7k●2●11●54

Maybe it's due to an enhanced oxidative metabolism from all the anthropometric CO2. (Wait, that would make them thinner...) – Dave S. Apr 12 2012 at 17:55

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Isn't hay and straw made from wheat? Don't horses eat hay and straw? Anyone think it could have something to do with genetically modified dwarf wheat? – Talldog Jul 2 at 18:59

VB · Answer 1 · 2012-04-12 17:43:15Z UTC

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! There is no hope. I give up. Very soon the bumblebees are going to be so obese, they will be dropping from the sky. Thank god cows don't fly. Beware.

answered Apr 12 2012 at 17:43

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I hope you don't mind that in my head this is yelled in Stephen Colbert's voice. – Happy Now Apr 12 2012 at 17:48

Yeah it's eerie stuff. My dog is still in good shape though, but he restricts his calories. I'm guessing it could have something to do with pharmaceuticals in everyones drinking water? Just a little suspicion of mine. – foreveryoung Apr 12 2012 at 17:52

I LOVE STEPHEN COLBERT!!! I WATCH HIM EVERY DAY!!!! Maybe his sense of humor is rubbing off ... Did I get a Colbert bump? – VB Apr 12 2012 at 18:39

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Obviously, you never saw the movie Twister. – Sunny Beaches Apr 12 2012 at 19:01

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Actually, perhaps that is why the bees are all dying off? Obesity. – CTPaleoGuy Aug 17 at 14:20

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The Loon · Answer 2 · 2012-04-13 04:33:12Z UTC

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I am sure it is because the animals are eating tastier food. Perhaps if they gently cook the grass before eating, and don't add any salt, they will reduce their setpoint and lose weight.

answered Apr 13 2012 at 4:33

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! That made my night. – Happy Now Apr 13 2012 at 5:09

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hey, if you're happy I'm happy :-)) – The Loon Apr 13 2012 at 16:18

Loon, I think it also needs to be properly fermented. Gotta neutralize those phytotoxins! – Julie Aug 27 at 1:01

Dragonfly · Answer 3 · 2012-04-12 18:14:01Z UTC

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Probably xenoestrogens in the groundwater.

answered Apr 12 2012 at 18:14

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Man, that is frightening. – JeJ Apr 12 2012 at 19:59

Morticia Munster · Answer 4 · 2012-04-12 18:29:57Z UTC

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Maybe what's behind it is behind the reason that I can go for months having mainly meat, veggies, eggs and lots of water and still GAIN weight. :(

answered Apr 12 2012 at 18:29

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the tons of water may be the culprit :( – foreveryoung Apr 12 2012 at 18:40

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Morticia, I feel your pain. Can I tell you a joke (just watched Colbert, so I am in a funny mood). A patient comes to a doctor and asks, "Doc, I want to lose weight. Could you please give me an obesity pill? And can it be really big, creamy and chocolate flavored?" – VB Apr 12 2012 at 18:43

Ambews · Answer 5 · 2012-04-12 20:14:58Z UTC

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Could this be wheat/corn meal? The article is about lab animals and domesticated animals right?

answered Apr 12 2012 at 20:14

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Not all were domesticated in the study, but most lived near people, so there might something like a junk food trickle-down thing going on. (Hey! Finally, a trickle-down theory that works!) Anywho, grain has gone GMO up the wazoo the last few years, so I'm guessing that even though the rat chow used hasn't changed labels, it is probably on a chemical level different than it was 10 years ago. – Happy Now Apr 12 2012 at 20:25

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I was going to say something like this as well. Also, since the study is on animals living near humans, maybe it's also because we took up much of their habitat for housing and they no longer have the same room to roam freely and/or eat the same food they once had to live as naturally as they once did. That and all the pollution from cities and such probably didn't help. For domesticated animals, it seems pretty obvious. The quality of dog food has gone down unless you're willing to pay premium. – Sunny Beaches Apr 12 2012 at 20:52

Even premium pet food requires diligence. My sister just realized her high-end, pricey, vet-recommended cat food contains gluten (why???). She's going to a raw diet for her. Realized about the gluten when the poor cat developed an allergy and licked all the fur off her belly. Gluten!! In an obligate carnivore's food!! – January Apr 12 2012 at 22:27

Yes! Raw is the ay to go. – Chinaeskimo Jul 2 at 9:53

raney · Answer 6 · 2012-04-12 19:56:00Z UTC

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I'll second the notions for xenoestrogens, fluoride, and other hormones/antibiotics in the water supply. I'd also like to add the possibility of mold / mycotoxins, à la http://www.bulletproofexec.com/mycotoxins-in-america/

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Happy Now · Answer 7 · 2012-04-12 20:31:10Z UTC

I'm with dragonfly on the xenoestrogen thing. I can easily count 100 things in my line of sight made from plastic, and pesticides are still on just about every freakin' lawn.

But to use the word of the hour, I feel like this list would be incomplete without: microbiota. We surely don't keep all of our bacteria to ourselves, and all the animals studied lived near people.

Janet · Answer 8 · 2012-04-12 18:32:37Z UTC

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I understand flouride is a big problem. I cannot wait until we move so I can get a whole house filter.

answered Apr 12 2012 at 18:32

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meta · Answer 9 · 2012-07-02 08:31:50Z UTC

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Changes in intestinal flora. Bacteria are capable of rapid mutation and colonisation.

answered Jul 2 at 8:31

scientists reporting unkown factor behind obesity epidemic- even wild animals getting fatter.

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