Paleo Diet and Paleolithic Diet Questions & Answers

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I am very aware that grains are not healthy--shocker--but I am curious as to which are the worst and which are more benign? Specifically, after listening to interviews from Dr. Davis on "Wheat Belly", we know wheat is a huge culprit. But if one were either allowing themselves some non-paleo food, or simply eating a slice or bread, which is the worse of the 2 evils- white bread or wheat bread?

I don't have any desire to eat wheat at all, but I'm just curious. Thanks for any thoughts!

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asked May 5 2012 at 4:46

Chuck Feerless
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Thanks for all the insight so far! – Chuck Feerless May 5 2012 at 6:41

Why eat gluten when there are so many tasty gluten free grains you can use as cheats - corn, teff, etc? Gluten free pastries and desserts have come a LONG way! – Lady_Arwen May 5 2012 at 14:49

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Is white bread not made from wheat? The question: "white or wheat?" is a non-sequitur. White bread is simply from bleached flour, "wheat" or brown bread is unbleached. Perhaps the extra bleaching step adds to the toxic load? Meh. Who cares. Both are sub optimal nutritionally and toxic to most people. How toxic varies considerably, of course. – Dave S. May 5 2012 at 21:43

Lady A- I don't eat any of these. Again, I'm just curious Thanks Dave- that makes perfect sense – Chuck Feerless May 6 2012 at 6:29

peter · Answer 1 · 2012-05-05 09:39:33Z UTC

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http://anthonycolpo.com/?p=852
http://anthonycolpo.com/?p=2385
http://anthonycolpo.com/?p=2418

Colpo is not paleo per se, but he writes about all of the important paleo issues. The bran of the wheat, or rice is where all of the crap lives. White rice and white wheat has this removed, so is better (but not specifically good, in the case of wheat).

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peter
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Not all of the crap is removed with the bran of course. White bread still contains gluten. That's what makes it springy. – Dangph May 5 2012 at 10:54

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Yeah, of course. Still gots the glutens :( – peter May 5 2012 at 13:48

Eric · Answer 2 · 2012-05-05 05:32:20Z UTC

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If a lot of what you ate was white rice you would indeed be in trouble. However add lots of Paleo foods around it and it is prefered over the brown.

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MissBrenna · Answer 3 · 2012-05-05 04:53:42Z UTC

I think that some consider white rice a safe starch but brown rice is pretty much given a thumbs down all across the board, something about toxins in the coloring or something. I don't include any grains at all in my diet under any circumstance so I can't say for sure the exact reason why white is safer. I would steer clear of bread, period. I guess if you insist, I would choose a properly fermented sourdough or even a sprouted grain bread like Ezekiel, but none is a much better option. If you need an extra boost in starch, I would go for the white rice, as it seems to be well tolerated by most.

CHEESESLAVE · Answer 4 · 2012-05-05 06:48:26Z UTC

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Sourdough can reduce up to 98% of the phytic acid. Ideally you want to eat whole wheat sourdough bread.

If you can't find sourdough whole wheat bread, you can eat white bread (it won't hurt you), but it is vastly lacking in nutrition.

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CHEESESLAVE
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All bread is vastly lacking in nutrition. Whole wheat is worse for you. Have a read of the Colpo posts re whole grains in my answer. – peter May 5 2012 at 7:09

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I don't think suggesting people eat white or whole wheat bread on paleohacks.com will be well received. – CaveMan_Mike May 5 2012 at 12:46

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Please cite the paper where sourdough is reduced by 98% and how long must it ferment? All barley, wheat, and rye contain gluten which is inflammatory in general and likely plays some role in cancer, autoimmune disease, and allergies! – Lady_Arwen May 5 2012 at 14:48

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98% is probably a strong overestimate, but sourdough is less of a problem. – WyldKard May 8 2012 at 20:03

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