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I have tried every diet Imaginable to alleviate this problem. Right now I'm doing potatoes, seafood, and fruits. This is an enjoyable diet for me, except one thing. I don't particularly crave the seafood part.

My question, is if there m ight be something to the aspect of eating to for my cravings. For instance, seafood has large quantities of iodine known to exacerbate acne. Another factor is that I'm fair skinned and Irish, perhaps my lineage was not adapted to seafood and shellfish.(and the extra iodine)

So I wonder if eating whatever I want could help. I don't remember suffering from acne as bad when I ate a western diet of whatever I enjoyed.

I welcome anyone who has tried this or thinks there is merit to this idea.

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The Irish were eating fish and shellfish thousands of years before they started eating potatoes (which only entered the scene in the 17th century, IIRC--they aren't a truly "ancestral" food for any Europeans). And they ate lots of it, too. There is no reason why being of Irish descent would mean you are not adapted to eat seafood. [/pedantry] – More Butter Please May 26 at 6:52
Iodine does not cause acne for me, but that may be just me. – Korion May 26 at 10:13

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If youre not craving seafood why are you bothering with it? No one is holding a gun to your head. You can paleo with other forms of meat.

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VB makes a good point about stress, but personally I think its more upside down : bad diets make you susceptible to stress. I linked to http://thelovevitamin.com because she controls her skin with diet (just to point out that it is possible), but I don't agree with her diet, as some things she eats (like lentils and nuts) cause big problems for me, and I think the only reason she tolerates them is because she does so many lifestyle changes like yoga classes (things I don't have time nor interest for).

Paleo without nuts pretty much reduced my acne to 2-3 small zits, which was kinda okay, way better than it had ever been. Whenever I had an exam, presentation, date, ... I would get a big zit. I wouldn't be able to cope with the stress, even if it was low. So Peat kinda interested me for this.

Right now my sleep is just perfect, I never wake up at night anymore and can finally sleep in a room with light shining in it (and I need less sleep). Last time I had a presentation I didn't get any skin issues, and felt quite okay. I wasn't even very stressed out for it, and managed to improvize during the whole thing which is quite amazing given the fact that I used to be mister ultra-shy-boy.

Some interesting stuff that I found out is that I just get acne on my chin if I don't eat enough sugar. Eating lots of dairy and fruits do not trigger acne when I eat liver and oysters regularly, and I found out I can replace liver and oysters with retinol and not get acne. The biggest change you gotta make is reduce PUFA intake to an absolute minimum though. Some things like coconut oil and butter have PUFA but their saturated fats are protective. But nuts, fatty fish, olive oil should be avoided. If you decide to supplement vitamin A, you can use Nutrisorb-A on your skin itself, it's water-soluble vitamin A. Doses are personal, I've heard of two people that need 70.000iu to get rid of acne, while I personally need around 25.000iu depending on how much milk I use. Cliff also got rid of his acne and he apparently needs 50.000iu.

Ray Peat said that usually, when people supplement thyroid hormone and eat liver, their acne clears up. I can vouch for that, but I think PUFA elimination should be done too.

There is so much to be talked about, but I'm gonna stop here. I'd say give it a try, you can always go back to your old diet if it doesn't work.

EDIT : just wanted to add that a Peatarian diet also enabled me to cut out lots of supplements (magnesium citrate, vitamin C, B-complex, selenium) that initially took care of some of the acne. I still take B3, fat-solubles and eggshell calcium, but I'm slowly transitioning to only topical supplements (the retinol works quite well on the skin for example).

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Bad diets create a nutritional stress, this is correct. That's what I meant in my post. – VB May 26 at 17:29
Yeah I kinda thought, based on your post, that you focused more on seeing stress as mental, while usually when I'm under stress, it's purely physical. I read your post again and it looks like I was wrong :). My personality has changed a lot the last couple of months, I can control myself much more, and don't get mad easily. It's interesting to note that my grandfather was an extremely kind dude, and he ate tons of honey, milk and ice cream. Since doing the same thing I'm much more kind too, and it's almost hard to get angry at someone. – Korion May 26 at 20:28
I've been eating fruit, sugar (ice cream), liver, mussels, low-PUFA, while supplementing with A & D for the past few weeks and my skin looks terrible. Tried to go off all topicals again too, as advised often on PH. I paid dearly for my hubris. Worst skin in ten years. – StreakOfLean May 26 at 20:30
How much A, and what kind? Do you eat anything else than what you listed? – Korion May 26 at 21:22
Occasional bone broth, eggs, some muscle meat. Don't really bother with vegetables anymore. I take 20k A (retinol palminate supplement) if I haven't had liver. I don't know, might just keep going with it. Basically it wasn't a cure, I went off topicals, and I'm being fussy because the diet didn't keep me clear. – StreakOfLean May 27 at 0:29
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I have never had any severe acne so I cannot speak from the experience. However, I worked with a large body of teenagers and I have encountered many many students with acne. Some of them outgrew it, some not. Most teens who got better cleaned up their diets.

To tell you the truth, I do not even understand why you have to eat seafood? What about fish (if you like it)? Or meat (if you do not like fish)?

This is what I know some people recommended:

Korion posted that he got significantly better on Ray Peat's diet.

He also provided a link to this blog: http://www.thelovevitamin.com/about/

What I found very interesting she points out the amount of stress that contributes to developing acne. It makes perfect sense to me:

stress -> body reacts with producing hormones as a response -> inflammation -> acne as a sign of inflammation

Her observations are supported by some other answers I have seen.

Could be dealing with stress (including nutritional stress) be the answer to acne?

Again, I am in no position to give any advice but here is my take on it:

  1. Clean up your diet. Go for nutritionally dense foods.

  2. Take care of your gut. Maybe you need fermented foods? Sauerkraut is my favorite choice, but Koreans eat a lot of kimchi and their skin is quite clear. I am yet to see a Korean with a bad acne problem. Maybe you need enzymes or more papaya that acts as a natural enzyme? I do not know. Water kefir? Yogurt? Check with a naturopath if you find a good one. Bone broth does wonders for your stomach. Just make sure your gut flora is healthy. And no gluten, I hope it goes without saying.

  3. Reduce stress in your life. Meditation? Friends? Fun? It is your call. If you ever read the book "Why Zebras do not Get Ulcers" you will know that stress kills. If you are in a very stressful situation, brainstorm the ways you can alleviate your stress.

Don't worry. You will get it right one day!

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Good answer but, Wouldn't a hormones surge justify those teens acne? – Acumen Athletics May 26 at 5:31
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They ALL have hormonal surges. How come only some of them develop acne? And all people who develop it fit under the same type? – VB May 26 at 6:13
I've always wondered, along the lines of Danny, if there is nothing bad or abnormal for some genetically predisposed people to develop acne along with hormone surges. I had friends who got it, it cleared as they grew up, and moved on- my parents had clear skin however, so I never had to worry about it. Just curious if it is ever "just one of those things" about being a teenager, independent of health...I get what Danny is wondering, I just don't know anything about the answer! – JeJ May 26 at 7:11
Also, teens and acne do not go hand in hand in ALL cultures. If I were to live with bushmen, the first thing I would check is their teenagers. Do they have acne? If acne in hunter-gatherer teenagers is documented - I rest my case. Also (please do not misunderstand me but what I am about to say is true) - out of all different kids I have taught American kids get the worst of acne. Not sure why. SAD? Korean/Japanese that eat traditional food - none that I can remember. Even the ones that do not eat traditional food. – VB May 26 at 7:32
I think the interaction between zinc and retinol plays a big role. Many americans are zinc-deficient due to a crappy diet. I personally had no success with zinc supplementation, but I was never deficient in it and it kinda gave me stomach aches to supplement it. I've tried reducing stress in my life too, but the number one thing that helped the most was following Peats diet to reduce stress. Now that I'm less susceptible to stress I also became more social, more confident, likely due to a new hormonal balance. I have noticed that I only crave one thing now, and that's social events. – Korion May 26 at 10:06
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Potatoes are in the solanaceae/nightshade family, along with peppers, tomatoes and eggplants. Many people are sensitive to the alkaloid compounds in nightshades, which create an inflammatory response--such as acne. So the potatoes might be a problem.

If you're eating a lot of fruit, that's a lot of sugar. Sugar is inflammatory, plus it feeds the bacteria that cause acne breakouts. Cut way back on the sugar in your diet by eating green vegetables instead of fruit, and see what happens.

And if you don't like fish, and you know iodine might exacerbate acne, then why the hell are you eating it?

ETA: And, I should add, your diet of potatoes, fruit, and fish seems very limited, as well as low in healthy fats. I strongly suggest eating a wider variety of foods, including different protein sources that you might enjoy more. Paleo's not a weird crash diet, but the way you're eating (as you've described it) almost sounds as if you're treating it as one.

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Your view of sugar is too simplified and doesn't explain any of my anecdotes. Green veggies actually make me a bit worse. Not that much though. But I agree that potatoes could be an issue. – Korion May 26 at 10:12
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Sadly two of my adult children take acne pills. Nothing else seems to help. I certainly found when I started having babies all skin problems healed up so presumably hormones play a part.

Try lots of sunshine and so get enough vitamin D too. Obviously eat well and clean out unhealthy foods.

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I found http://holistichealthherbalist.com/ to be pretty helpful in helping me clear up my acne. She talks about diet, skincare, and diet. At any rate it's worth a try =)

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