I am a college student and like a lot of people.. my budget is limited. I don't buy any vegetables unless they are potatoes or cabbage to make saurkraut. Thinking about my diet/the plant/my wallet two questions come to mind.
Why should i buy vegetables that provide me with essentially no calories when i could put that money toward more raw milk in my diet or upgrading from kerrygold butter and cheese (6 dollars per lb) to organic pastures raw butter and cheese (12 dollars per/lb.) I have nothing against vegetables.. they just seem kind of pointless.
Can we sustainably feed the world growing vegetables? How much land do they actually take up? Is it small enough that it wouldnt effect more meaningful agriculture/ ranching?
Interested in hearing your thoughts!
I'm quite baffled reading this AND seeing people agreeing on it.. I mean, eating fish & meat is very healthy, but with not eating vegetables you are missing more than half of your vitamins, anti-oxidants and God knows what beneficial stuff is in there.
There are lots of scientific reports showing that eating vegetables will protect you from all kinds of diseases, and vitamins from a bottle don't give you the same benefits, although it will give you some protection for the worst kind of diseases.
It's possible to only eat meat, like the Inuit. But unless you eat exactly like the Inuit it wouldn't be wise to cut out all vegetables. Personally, from what seems most healthy in scientific reports I have read, I would cut down the amount of meat for the time being until the money issues have faded.
To answer your second question: I don't know ;) At least the population shouldn't grow much then. That's the biggest issue, there are already too much people on earth and there are getting more and more people each day. Interesting documentary on how many people can live on earth, by David Attenborough: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwBgNF_4g7Q
Uh, people, how about some dirt and ten cents worth of seeds? I mean, window boxes with dirt, community gardens, neighbors' back yard, trades, CSA, You Pick farms? There are a LOT of ways to get vegies for pretty cheap or nothing, you just got to GATHER them.
And eat your vegetables 'cause grandma was right. They're good for you.
Variety is the spice of life. I love meat, but eating solely fish, eggs, meat and fat for all meals would get rather revolting and sends me straight for the carbs. I focus on the most nutrition for the money, buying shitake/cremini mushrooms, carrots, frozen organic broccoli (a bargain compared to fresh), cauliflower and sweet potatoes. Avoiding unnecessary extras.All organic, all local. Also I eat according to the season and whats at the market, everything tastes so much better that way!
Vegetables aren't there for calories, per se. They're included in my diet for their micronutrients, which, in combination with a moderate amount of animal products covers all my bases well.
For calories, I stick to fats (coconut, olive, avocado, butter, etc...) and starches (rice, poatoes, root veg, etc...)
im in the same situation... for what you get vegetables are just not worth the price... i also only buy sweet potatoes to refeed on the weekends and once in a while ill get a variety of veggies for sauerkraut. the rest of the time i'm a carnivore. im just waiting for spring/summer to get here so my garden can get me all my veggies for free
I'd focus on the cheap nutritious ones. There are a million ways to eat cabbage and broccoli, squash and root vegetables. Ultimately fresh cut is not sustainable unless it's local and seasonal.
I don't see the point of expensive dairy. It's no where near the most bang for your buck. Cheap grass fed meat, liver and other offal and you are good to go for what $3-4 a day? Back fill with whatever tastes good and you are fine. My wife and I live super cheaply on the above, plus some homemade salsa, herbs, citrus, avocado and flash frozen local berries as a treat. No matter what the influx of what appear to be militant vegans tell you, you won't be deficient on this diet, you will be above the RDI on almost everything and in some cases MASSIVELY higher and for prices that compete reasonably with Ramen noodles (ok not really but still).
I've actually thought about this, especially in the last day or two! I might be moving to a big city for an internship with a low stipend (career change, so it's worth it). After housing, my medical needs, savings to travel home for holidays...I won't have much left for food.
In order of importance, my list will go like this: fish, eggs, meat, coconut oil, vegetables/fruits. I figure that it will give me all all I need, and that supplementing with a vitamin (shame on me, for being so non-paleo) is actually cheaper than buying produce. I have been planning to purchase $10 of produce max a week. I might even do rice because of the cost and how it settles well with me.
I am going to source locally for meats and eggs, and that won't change since I won't buy CAFO and I think my protein quality is more important than vegetables. I also plan on not being so worried about BPA so that I can buy cheaper sardines as well. Vegetables seem to be of least importance...
I LOVE vegetables though. I freaking LOVE THEM SO MUCH. I love spinach, kimchi, kale, lettuce, zucchini, tomatoes, etc. But when it comes to cost, the benefits of getting adequate calorie punch for cost seems more important.