Here's the link to an article posted a couple days ago, saying that the CEO of Crossfit, who promoted the Paleo Diet, now has health problems and that Crossfit is being touted against by the US Navy. There are some stabs in there too about how cows weren't around 2 million years ago (they evolved about 8000-10000 years ago from aurochs, putting them--yup--after the advent of agriculture) so we shouldn't be eating beef. And that Loren Cordain only has a degree in.... Physical Education (I checked his curriculum vitae, and it is sadly true) and should be convicted for providing any medical advice if he has done so since he is not an MD. But I still support him because of the overwhelming amount of research he's done.
I know this is another one of those "why-the-Paleo-Diet-is-bad-for-you" type of bullsh*t article that we should just ignore but it's proposed some arguments that I have not yet heard thus far.
I don't do Crossfit and have no previous knowledge about Crossfit or this Greg Glassman person.
I will still eat cows for as long as I live.
I still believe the information that comes out of all the big Paleo gurus mouths even if they are not medical doctors.
I think this article is stupid. I'm just putting it out there for arguments against it.
I'm sure his health problems have nothing to do with alcoholism. Gotta be his diet. Also, the official Crossfit diet is Zone, not Paleo. Just ask Robb Wolf.
Since when is Glassman an advocate of paleo? Crossfit HQ is Zone Diet all the way unless I missed a big change in their thinking. Many if not most of the Crossfit athletes are paleo but HQ is in bed with Barry Sears and has been for a long time.
If Greg Glassman were Paleo it would be worth discussing. Since he isn't, and has publicly disavowed Paleo, defending Paleo over some non-Paleo's poor health is rather outrageous.
EDIT: And now after reading the article, I'm even more put off. First, it is on the Beach Body website. Heard of them? They compete with crossfit with P90x and other programs. Trying to slag on a competitor in this fashion is rather lame marketing. Wow did they get it wrong about coach Glassman's diet. There must be some strong hate. Between Beach Body and Crossfit HQ. Wonder what Rob Wolf would say about this?
Kevin Bacon (dressed in ROTC uniform, as it were): "All is well!!!!!!!"
Just because you do CrossFit doesn't make you Paleo, despite the fact that they have traditionally gone hand-in-hand. That being said, I may be a stickler for clear causation when approaching something like this, but I'm much more inclined to believe biochemistry than I am a picture of a dude who may or may not be even close to Paleo. Just because he makes his living as the head of cross-fit doesn't mean he is the pillar of its ideals.
As for the marine who sued the Marine Corps because he was "injured" by CrossFit workouts, I'm inclined to believe that (as unfortunate as this is) the Navy/Marines are making a public criticism of CrossFit for liability purposes. This is the JAG lawyers more than it is anything else.
N=1. I know an active duty Navy Seal. He is 100% Paleo per recommendations of a Navy nutritionist and the workouts he describes doing while training with his boat crew would put CrossFit workouts to shame. No offense to CrossFitters, of course.
I suppose this answer would be more disciplined (and carry more weight) had I been able to force myself to do a critical reading of the entire article. But the first two links that I checked did not say what the author claimed.
Neither Glassman nor Crossfit was named as a defendant in the lawsuit filed by Makimba Mimms--only the gym and the trainers. Because Glassman and Crossfit were not in fact sued, there could not be judgments against them--so in a weird way saying there was a 0 thousand dollar judgment was accurate. Crossfit can't be "found guilty as charged" (which is a criminal concept, not a civil one anyway, although a corporation can in fact be convicted of a crime in certain situations, but I digress) if it is not a party to the lawsuit!
In light of such an initial glaring inaccuracy I didn't have the patience to evaluate the remainder of the article, which appeared to contain a number of ad hominem arguments.
you could scare a lot of crows with all the strawmen in that article.
That was such an eloquently written article, all the question marks and multiple uses of the word 'debunked' in a sentence really drove the point home. I am starting to question my slavish devotion to eating food that only existed in its exact form pre-agriculture, and drinking from poop filled puddles. I don't do crossfit, but apparently I'm lucky to have escaped the ravages of bulimia and herpes endemic in the community.
I think it's kind of a waste of bandwidth giving that site attention (yet here I am doing it). It's so replete with unsubstantiated accusations, and a perfectly despicable style and tone that I wonder "is this parody that I just don't get?" The sensational title was repeated three times before the text actually appeared, and that long list of "appropriate tags" at the end is like, I dunno, Web circa 1999?
I mean, it says "...the court found crossfit guilty as charged and crossfit was socked with a judgement against them in court for over 0 thousand dollars." Ohhh! 0 thousand dollars--in COURT!! Must have been pretty awful!
I never did crossfit, and honestly don't even know what it is. I do know any sort of prescribed, scheduled, structured gym-based fitness routine is100% optional when it comes to health and fitness, individuals are generally responsible for their own choices, and other things cause rhabdomyolysis besides faulty exercise programs. Jeez, I took a common pharmaceutical once that came with warnings of elevated risk of rhabdomyolysis.
Also, don't put too much faith in MDs. It was an MD who ruined a close family relative of mine with 2 years of an intense anti-rheumatoid drug cocktail when the whole time she just had a herniated disc. And MDs are telling people to take statins and eat low-fat, high-refined carb diets--even when they have no evidence of CVD. Medical credentials are dubious metrics of skill and effectiveness, at best. I'd take an intellectually curious, science-minded clinician over an establishment-whipped MD beholden to the pharmaceutical industrial complex any day.
This sounds like all smoke and no fire to me. I prefer to draw my conclusions from resources that cite their source material, and have some basic, reasonably adult communication skills. Piffle, this is. Sort of a fun read, but mostly meh.
This article reeks of malice and hate. I suspect the author has an ulterior motive. The CEO doesn't look obese. He's also not suffering any medical health problems - that was merely the opinion of the author. The dude is just getting old and probably not eating 100% paleo. Most of the managers of the gyms I've belonged to were fat as well - probably from the stress.
The only point that is worth thinking about is that modern cows are not paleo. This is true. They are wild, raging, beasts by nature and have been bred to be docile, lazy, grazzing creatures. I don't eat beef myself because my intuition tells me that they just aren't natural creatures. I prefer seafood - it's been around for billions of years and you can't beat that for "primal" food.
Ok I don't like crossfit mainly because from what I've witnessed they don't seem to practice clean form and careful lifting. It looks kinda sloppy. The whole statement on diet is false. Most of us know from personal experience that gluten and grains don't work well. Other than personal experience there really is no reason to have grains in our diet. None of us are saying a bit of sweet potato fruit and veggies are bad? If you are active you should do well with a bit of extra carbs anyway. Point is meat is a superior source of Essential fatty acids and amino acids. We don't cook our meat to death. Many of us just sear it.
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