So I think I need to give up on the HCL for right now. http://pureformulas.com/betaine-hcl-180-caps-by-pharmax.html Here's the betaine I've been using. I was using this http://www.healthegoods.com/betaine-plus-hp.html
I was up to 2 pills per day for the first formula (3000mg). and Up to about the same (5pills or 3500mg) and noticed little to no effect, and I'm not quite sure it didn't hurt things.
Now, I'm going to try Melissa's advice and give the apple cider vinegar or lemon juice a shot. Anybody have any luck with either of those? Which one did you use? When did you take it?