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TL;DR - Person does it wrong, gets bad results. |
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Haters gotta hate.
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I find it a little amusing that the writer gets all up in arms about his Omega 6's, then goes on to claim that the only meat he now eats is poultry. |
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actually; almost everything I have seen emphasizes the use of grass/pastured beef/meat over grain fed/feedlot- not sure where he was getting his original info from... lesson learned; never use single source documentation. always compare and contrast. |
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He should have called the post "CavemanForum.com can burn in hell." The paleosphere has touted grass-fed meat over grain ever since I've been into paleo (about 2 years). His current diet is still paleo:
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Sounds like much of what he managed to miss by only reading the forum could have been learned by taking a weekend to read The Paleo Solution instead. |
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Hahaha, it's so hilarious to read this having struggled in the past few years with very very low blood pressure. Maybe I can get some tips from him on how to raise mine. I guess eating massive amounts of omega-6 from garbage CAFO meat would help? Naw, not worth it, my new doctor says as long as I'm not having issues with fainting, my really low blood pressure is great. |
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He's an idiot on several levels. |
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First he writes "what this website preached as paleonutrition taught me that the ideal diet is composed of meat, roots, leafy greens and occasionally nuts and seeds. This diet, touted as the most biochemically suitable for human consumption above all others, is what nearly put me in a coffin." Then, one paragraph later he says "I pretty much lived on nothing but store meat, whipping cream and cod liver oil for most of a year." I don't think this poor benighted fool can be considered a reliable reporter considering that he doesn't even recognize the difference between these two diets. |
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It's unfortunate this person had such a bad experience with paleo. I understand his antipathy towards it now, though I will maintain that when you "pretty much live(d) on nothing but store meat, whipping cream and cod liver oil for most of a year" you're not following the paleo diet very well. |
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So, he only went to one site, not any of the others where countless has been written about grassfed meat vs. grainfed? Perhaps he needs an internet primer course. |
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I honestly can't imagine how a person who has done any reasonable amount of research on diet, period (paleo or otherwise) could possibly be unaware of the importance of the omega 6/omega 3 ratio and of the benefits of grass-fed meats. Others have said the same, but I just want to make note that one doesn't have to have studied paleo specifically to know this. And, yes: poultry? Seriously? And what kind of poultry? Industrial, or (true) free range? I guarantee the guy is getting more omega 6 from his poultry than he did from feedlot beef. And what's with the "whipping cream" thing? Is this some paleo magic I wasn't aware of? The only decent thing he wrote was to reference the Weston A. Price Foundation, who I tend to enjoy reading. I'm not sure that they're "paleo," per se, but then again, I'm not "paleo" per se, either. But the guy was smart, and they do seem to recommend some good things. |
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But - He does raise a good point though, that while nowadays people are very aware of the whole omega issue (grass-fed), they are not aware that wild meat has a more balanced fat distributrion than even grass-fed beef. Eating lots of sat fats in the form of butter, coconut oil etc does not emulate this fat distrubution of wild animals. The only way to get a balance, is to eat very varied meats, free range chicken or venison, or game meat is balanced and balance your beef with fish intake to up your monos and polys...(I am still working this out myself, its pretty complex, maybe even impossible to entirely emulate eating wild meat) my 2c.... Oh, and eat some veges ya nutter! |
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The way I see it for every blog out there praising there's going to be another one out there condemning it. I personally go by how I'M feeling and that is pretty damn good. I've lost 6 kilos in 3 weeks and I have so much more energy |
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So nobody told him about the O3-O6 ratio and now he blames the diet. Ok. |
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I'm trying to read that blog post, but with each sentence I keep hearing Bugs Bunny in my head, saying, "Whatta maroon!" |
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Whoa dude. "I nearly killed myself on their advice and then almost completely reversed what is widely construed to be an irreversible condition without a single doctor's visit just by doing my own research and figuring out more than any of them know." Yeah, meaning he was never actually diagnosed with anything, and therefore we'll never know what was truly behind a non-issue in the first place. He cured himself of nothing. He claims that his problems were the result of too many O6s and then he "cured" it with chicken?! |
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"After what mass human ignorance and stupidity did to me, I feel pretty well justified in poking some fun at paleotards and pointing out the HUGE GLARING FLAWS in both their knowledge and their application of what little they really know." Perhaps should read: After what MY ignorance and stupidity did to me, I feel pretty well justified in poking some fun at MYSELF and pointing out the HUGE GLARING FLAWS in both MY knowledge and MY application of what little I really know. |
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I understand that the information MAY have been still developing as he reached his peak of participation in the Paleo community, but there's no reason why he can't adjust his diet now learn from the mistakes or lack of information from his community. A few years ago, green beans were still on the list... I don't see anyone going all out on green beans and blaming the community for misinformation? |
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This guy really missed the boat with his diet... I am 54, do crossfit(as best I can and for 2 years now) and recently started eating locally grown pasture raised beef and locally raised pork as part of a paleo diet (both with no GMOs) and more raw veggies in general(organic if I can find it), though I am not totally paleo, maybe 50/60%. With a change in diet I've lost 20 lbs. From 200 to 180 lbs now. No weight lose with just crossfit. My recent blood pressure was 120/60. Doc. say I have the blood pressure of a 20 year old. I will go in soon to have blood work done but last time I had low total cholesterol, maybe 100 or 110. I'm looking for a higher level of good cholesterol with the diet change. I strongly recommend at least some percent of paleo but add to that less chemicals in the foods we eat. For example, Diamond walnuts have preservatives, my local store brand does not. It is important to read labels on everything. It's time to get back to natural foods.... |
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So...is there going to be a Paleo Diet Tour in Norway now? |
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