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I've having a regular Paleogasm here!

On the first episode of BBC's 3-part series, they've:
- Had positive talking points from Lustig and Taubes, as well as former and current industry insiders regarding current food "products"
- Shown how Corn Subsidies under the Nixon Administration indirectly raised calorie consumption by making meat and high-calorie sweets low-cost
- Shown how Ancel Keys used nasty tactics to discredit anyone (Yadkins) with an opposing viewpoint on Saturated fats.
- Pretty much looks at sugar, and it's lobbies in a negative light (specifically how the sugar industry threatened the World Health Organization and US Government with withdrawal of lobby/research funding if their findings on sugar consumption as related to heart disease and obesity).
- Shows UK and American research regarding physical addictions to food and how food marketing exploits it.

In a nutshell, it puts the blame on a 30-year "perfect storm" of profits, lobbies, politics, and bad science.

I am pleasantly surprised with this first episode. Looking forward to 2 and 3 now. It's all stuff I already knew, but frankly I'm used to seeing "blah blah, less meat, blah blah, exercise, blah blah, fat people are lazy" and it was refreshing to see a "higher logic" reaching the masses (albeit on the other side of the Atlantic).

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RR · Answer 1 · 2012-06-15 04:07:38Z UTC

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brits = brilliant. hope this is on youtube

answered Jun 15 at 4:07

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yup, found it. here's episode 1: youtube.com/watch?v=kYVoYwU1-kk – RR Jun 15 at 4:13

Yes thank you for finding the Youtube vid... can't wait to watch this. :D – Esther Jun 15 at 21:21

Um, that link is just a teaser -- you don't get the whole thing. The Beeb doesn't give that stuff away for nothing. If you're outside the UK, tough luck. – Stephen Jul 13 at 21:26

Sol · Answer 2 · 2012-06-15 12:26:36Z UTC

With a little bit of effort I was able to use one of those free UK proxy servers to let me watch the show in the US.

I use FoxyProxy for Firefox (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/foxyproxy-basic/) to simplify proxy server management. I picked the first proxy on this UK proxy list (http://www.xroxy.com/proxy-country-GB.htm), gave FoxyProxy the IP and port for the proxy, enabled the proxy, and then went to the page for the show (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01jxzv8/The_Men_Who_Made_Us_Fat_Episode_1/).

I only watched a few seconds of the program (or should I say "programme"), enough to confirm that the proxy was working.

A couple of notes.

With free proxies you may or may not get a reliable connection.
Episode 1 is only available for 3 weeks so, if you're going to watch it, watch it soon.
If streaming of the program is slow you can disable the proxy once the program has started to stream since supposedly the player only checks your country at the beginning of the streaming.

PaleoUK · Answer 3 · 2012-06-15 11:33:35Z UTC

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There was an article in the Guardian earlier this week anticipating the BBC series, for anyone not able to see it.

answered Jun 15 at 11:33

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	Just read that a couple of hours ago. Weird that all that was all said in a newspaper isn't it. – HippiPaleo Jun 15 at 12:59
	oh, but very cool. :) – HippiPaleo Jun 15 at 12:59

ukpaleomama · Answer 4 · 2012-06-15 11:45:19Z UTC

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The best thing about it, for me, is that the information is getting out there!

answered Jun 15 at 11:45

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queen of the stone age · Answer 5 · 2012-06-17 21:51:44Z UTC

Yes it was brilliant. My daughter and I watched it together and kept bursting in to a spontaneous round of applause. Nothing new for us but it made so many points clearly and succinctly that 'ordinary' people, i.e. those who don't bother finding anything out for themselves and believe everything the government and food industry say, can understand. The best bot was when I think it was Robert Lustig said something like: if they (govt recommendations) are correct then fine but if they're wrong then it has been a disaster - look around I think we can see what it has been.

Ike · Answer 6 · 2012-06-15 09:29:11Z UTC

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Watched it last night on BBC.

answered Jun 15 at 9:29

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Paul Whiteley · Answer 7 · 2012-06-15 14:09:15Z UTC

It was an enlightening show. Really looking forward to the next episode. Jacques Peretti has a blog on the BBC (as well as the Grauniad) about the show: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/2012/06/the-men-who-made-us-fat.shtml talking about TOFI (thin outside, fat inside) among other things. Harks back to the thin-fat bodies and the Barker hypothesis: http://questioning-answers.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/barker-hypothesis-and-thin-fat-bodies.html

Wayne daniels · Answer 8 · 2012-06-15 04:59:08Z UTC

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Ye watched it,very interesting.

answered Jun 15 at 4:59

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MrsD · Answer 9 · 2012-06-15 05:58:17Z UTC

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Yes I saw it but after previously watching Lustig on youtube and reading Taubes it all felt like stuff I'd heard a thousand times.

answered Jun 15 at 5:58

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You may have heard it a thousand times but it's exciting new stuff ro most people who don't know about paleo. Excellent for a main stream programme – Jean Jun 15 at 8:14

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@Jean you are right. I kept on saying to my husband 'you see, it's true. I'm not making this up!' So yes it was exciting. – MrsD Jun 15 at 13:51

My husband recorded it for me and said, "At last, here is a programme on nutrition where you won't be shouting 'No,no,no' at the screen all evening!" – Jean Jun 15 at 17:50

Honestly. I just get tired of these things. My mum's friend who is a Dr looked at my recent blood tests where my HDL was high and LDL low and he told me to "stop with the fatty food" arrghh – MrsD Jun 15 at 22:56

Ninds · Answer 10 · 2012-06-15 10:42:39Z UTC

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Missed it, but will find in and add to my series link!

Will be good to show the old's.

Thanks buddy!!!

answered Jun 15 at 10:42

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HuntingBears · Answer 11 · 2012-06-15 16:39:14Z UTC

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Yea I started a thread about it but didn't mention the name in the title, was a great documentary, can't really beat brits for documentaries :p

answered Jun 15 at 16:39

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I searched for the show title before I posted this, sorry. – Joshua Jun 15 at 16:42

tj · Answer 12 · 2012-07-13 19:19:38Z UTC

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first 2 eps are on youtube. and i just saw the third one via bbc iplayer.

answered Jul 13 at 19:19

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Has anyone seen BBC2’s “The Men Who Made Us Fat” ?

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