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Something I don't get in the paleo community is the fact that everyone wants to be extremely lean. I personally have been very lean my whole life, abs showing and all, but I have almost always felt miserable. The little time I have packed on some pounds (rarely) I felt much happier and energetic; My sports performance improved and my libido was high. I think there has also been studies that have shown that a bit heavier people are healthier than very lean people, I just can't bother to search for them right now.

So what say you paleohackers? Do you want to be extremely lean? Or have you been there and felt miserable? Better?

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Are you sure you were eating enough when you were "very lean"? If you can pack on pounds when cutting loose, it may be a sign that being the constitution you were before was going against your body's set point. – foreveryoung Jun 17 at 23:35
That's the thing. I am never sure if I am eating enough. I get in close to 3500 calories almost daily but still haven't gained. When I did gain weight I decided to stop counting and slobber pounds of sweet potatoes with 5-6 tablespoons of coconut oil a couple times a day, but I am somewhat orthorexic so I stopped for fear of "eating huge quantities of fat with carbs." – ROB Jun 17 at 23:50
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LOL. Of course you're somewhat orthorexic, you're on paleohacks! – foreveryoung Jun 18 at 0:22
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My goal is to get down to the weight and fitness level at which I felt healthiest, or at which I feel healthiest at this age. IMO people look best when they feel best. – Karen Jun 18 at 19:03

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I was extremely lean once; this time last year I was anorexic, depressed, malnourished, had zero sex drive and my hair was falling out. Then I adopted Paleo and gained weight. I have boobs and an ass now. My arm is not the width of a celery stick and I have nicely shaped legs that my girlfriends are envious of.

I no longer strive to be "extremely lean" because that will just result in a downward spiral towards a relapse in having an eating disorder and excessive exercising and being miserable. It took me a very long time to accept my new body and I now love my curves.

I know a majority of people on Paleo want to lose weight and be as lean as possible in order to look good. But for me, the reverse is true: I gained weight and I think I look better now. I adopted Paleo because when I made the decision to be healthy, I wanted to do it right.

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Applause!! :) – Amy B. Jun 21 at 13:46
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I strove to be extremely lean on paleo, even got there for a minute, but I realized that enough was enough, women are supposed to have a little but of fat, it is necessary for fertility, and there really is no better indicator of female health than fertility. I finally gave up being athletically lean for generally healthy. I was emotionally happy with my looks but was not really enjoying my life, I was stressing out over every little carb that passed my lips. I am much happier with a couple extra pounds back on my hips (the look more feminine and curvy that way too).

I would also like to add that as an athletic 5'7 girl, being 144 is not by any means overweight, so it is not an excuse to eat nothing but paleo-fied desserts, but still there are better things in life than just being lean.

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Your weight is perfect. Women look better with a higher body fat. – ROB Jun 17 at 23:41
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I don't want to be extremely lean. When I have been I've usually also been depressed. Right now I am slightly underweight, probably, but unlike many others here it seems, I have never had a serious weight problem. I have a small frame (except for my ribs which stick out further than other, ahem, parts) and I don't look that great with more weight on. I'm 5'3" and between 112 to 115 lbs usually.

Biggest problem for me is getting in enough protein to build muscle. I calculated, though, that in the last 3.5 years I've lost about 12lbs of fat and added over 5lbs of muscle. I'm much stronger than I was so I'm pretty happy.

BTW, I thought that slightly underweight people tend to have a greater longevity over heavier people.

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I was a fat kid, starved myself as a teen to leanness, than was a fat adult, and now am on my way down again. However, this time I strive to be healthy and in excellent shape, rather than just lean.

Other factors really influenced my happiness level, more than body weight, but I do have to say that my relationship with my body has improved.

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skinny and lean are not synonymous. – foreveryoung Jun 18 at 19:10
That's true, but even as a teen, I had a pretty good muscle development, especially in my legs. I wasn't skinny. I did have disordered eating, but I never got skinny. – Crowbar Jun 18 at 20:34
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I would like to be as lean as I can healthily be for my gender/height/genetics, but if that's a size 12 woman with an amazonian-like figure then that's ok with me :) I wouldn't want to be leaner than what's healthy!

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We have to work with the material we've been given so there is no one ideal for everybody--just what is ideal for you. – MiMintzer Jun 18 at 16:10
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I cannot attain very lean. I have never in my life been lean. Not as far back into childhood as I can go. If there's a bell-curve for normal weight, I'm at the 99th percentile when I'm at my leanest. I would love to be leaner but as I try new things to get there, I'm not filled with much hope I will actually ever get there. I think there is a limit for some people and I'm quite in awe of those who can just decide they're going to reach super-human leanness and then do it.

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I'm the leanest I've ever been and I feel just fine. Since I've been intermittent fasting I don't have to strive to be lean.

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skinny and lean are not synonymous. – foreveryoung Jun 18 at 20:05
Durianrider is skinny. Gregg Avedon is lean. – foreveryoung Jun 18 at 20:06
Victoria Beckham is skinny. Lolo Jones is lean. – foreveryoung Jun 18 at 20:08
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I'd have to say that yes, I do strive to be lean. I like the way I feel - agile and lighter on my feet. I like the way my clothes fit. That said, I have never been overweight in my life. I have a naturally "ectomorphic" build (tall and thin). I took it a little too far as a teenager to the point where I had no energy, lost my period, etc etc etc. I have no interest in going back there again, but after 25 years of slow steady recovery I think I know where my ideal weight is, and it's probably on the lean side, BMI-wise. So be it. I don't really have to go to herculean efforts to reach it (I don't do low carb, and I eat dairy) and I never stray more than 10 pounds over or I freak out and start visiting sites like Paleohacks. It's just the weight where I feel the most like "me."

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I would love to be lean, but I'm realizing more and more that it doesn't align with my more important goals. I've never been extremely overweight, but I've always had a little extra abdominal fat. It's starting to go away now, from a combination of paleo and increased training, but I haven't yet dipped into the full 6- or 8-pack region.

When I get close to that level, I have very little energy, and usually haven't eaten enough in the past few days. I look okay (still not perfect), but I don't want to do anything. As a competitive rower, I'd rather have the energy to train and perform at a high level than be an ab-having slug. A new PR feels better than a 6-pack any day.

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You don't think you can be a competitive rower wit abs and set PRs? – foreveryoung Jun 18 at 19:11
I do (I've seen plenty of them), but it takes time and dedication which I've only just started putting in. – Corbab Jun 19 at 0:09
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Many in the paleo community arrived there because of being overweight and that's why you might perceive that pattern. I have struggled with weight ever since puberty and find that the leaner I am, the better I feel.

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