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So I was rereading Taubes book, " Why We Get Fat," where he explains that when you remove the ovaries from a rat they get fat no matter how many or few calories they eat. He uses this to explain weight gain after menopause.

So...in two weeks I start chemoradiation which will fry my ovaries and send me quickly into menopause. One more thing to be scared about, and I am scared! It seems there is nothing I can do to avoid becoming an estrogen lacking blob, sitting on the couch, starving but fat, no matter what I do? Any help or advice? I'm feeling very upset :-/

flag	asked Jun 28 at 2:07 Chinaeskimo 4,674●6●25

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((hugs)) I hope you are feeling better today. I'd like to suggest reading something enjoyable that will allow you to get out of your own head for a bit. Worrying isn't helping you heal! I sent an email to the address listed on your website last week. Feel free to email me if you want to chat. – MathGirl72 Jun 28 at 12:47

@MathGirl72: oh my e-mail is bigfatfluffy at g mail dot com. ty – Chinaeskimo Jun 29 at 0:46

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My mom had her ovaries removed in her late twenties. She did not balloon up! She remained quite slim. ((hugs)) – January Jun 29 at 5:02

Jean · Answer 1 · 2012-06-28 07:07:30Z UTC

Look at www.npis.info. The body still makes some oestrogen after menopause but progesterone production stops completely. Bio identical HRT is the way to go but get tested for hormone levels. I am way past the menopause and use bio identical progesterone cream.

Dragonfly · Answer 2 · 2012-06-28 07:07:37Z UTC

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(((Hugs))) Your ovaries are not the only source of estrogen in our body. Your body fat is the main source after menopause. (but that doesn't mean that you need to be fat!)

You may find this book helpful:

http://www.amazon.com/What-Your-Doctor-About-Menopause/dp/B0027B0FLO/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1340867165&sr=1-1&keywords=%22what+your+doctor+may+not+tell+you+about+menopause

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This is a great book. It's the one I read when I was really suffering with menopausal symptoms. I've followed the advice and never looked back! – Jean Jun 28 at 7:12

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Dragonfly thank you so much. I am beyond grateful for everyones help and knowledge. – Chinaeskimo Jun 29 at 0:49

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Oh and I can get it on my kindle :-) – Chinaeskimo Jun 29 at 0:57

Wowza · Answer 3 · 2012-06-28 06:36:43Z UTC

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It's not too late I hope to have some eggs frozen? You may want to have children later, perhaps with a surrogate mother or other means.

Menopause is difficult, but there is support. You can get through this. Best wishes.

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Crowlover · Answer 4 · 2012-06-28 19:16:45Z UTC

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So Sorry to hear this.

THERE IS SOMETHING TO DO AND YOU WILL DO IT - SO DO NOT WORRY!!!!!

Please please please see an ND or MD who does bio-identical hormone replacement therapy (hrt), which are typically creams to avoid upsetting your gut and liver.

And thank you for pointing out for everyone one of my pet-peeves... this notion that Estrogen makes women fat when it is the opposite (low estrogen can lead to weight gain). Im like a broken record on that point.

I really like Jonathan Wright's book on Bio-Identical hormones.

Stay Young & Sexy with Bio-Identical Hormone by Jonathan V. Wright, Lane Lenard

Also, these sites can help you locate a doctor for bio-identical hrt http://foreverhealth.com/

http://www.acamnet.org/site/c.ltJWJ4MPIwE/b.5420171/k.BD4C/Home.htm Amercan Academy for advancement of science

Hang in you will be fine (but will likey need bio-id hrt, you are too young for no low estrogen!)

Virtual Hug :)

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synthetic hormones are BAD news for a lot of reasons. Bio-identical are fine, and often necessary. Mercola has an interview of Dr. Wright that you might want to watch. lmk if you can't find it and I will. Non of the research showing bad things about hrt is with Bio-identicals and there is a difference. The book and interview explains. Good stuff. Saved my life. – Crowlover Jun 28 at 2:25

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I can second the great effects of BHRT, but as the chemoradiation is probably for cancer, you should also check if the cancer is by any chance estrogen-sensitive. And while you're at it: check testosterone and progesterone too, you need them just as much as estrogen. – baba Jun 28 at 5:24

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I agree baba but any doc who knows what they are doing would not give her anything that would increase her risk of cancer. Estrogen does NOT cause cancer... also any doc who knows about bio-id hormone balancing would check ALL,not just estrogen. I am almost certain that all they links between hrt and a risk of cancer have been both disputed and also were not with bio-identical (like human) hormones... correct me anybody if I am wrong. – Crowlover Jun 28 at 6:43

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Baba that was a huge concern since my original surgeon prescribed High dose estrogen after my hysterectomy. I will always wonder if that sped up the recurrence, three months later. I am having the histology tested with foundation medicine to find out what mutations are there. – Chinaeskimo Jun 29 at 0:56

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Crowlover TY, having a plan of action is making me feel so much better – Chinaeskimo Jun 29 at 0:58

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Rob · Answer 5 · 2012-06-28 03:21:28Z UTC

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I know plenty of skinny old women..

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and for every one, there are is another who is overweight or obese. Anyway Rob, Chinaeskimo is not old. Wth... – Crowlover Jun 28 at 4:12

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Ok...OP says menopause leads to inevitable weight gain...this makes me wonder why all older women aren't fat..next time I'll use lots of simple, short, clearly connected statements for the downvoter crowd. – Rob Jun 28 at 15:28

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Or you could quit being an ass and try to be supportive. Your answer adds nothing to the conversation and is VERY condescending. – MathGirl72 Jun 28 at 16:13

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Nothing condescending about it at all. Stop assuming. – Rob Jun 28 at 16:18

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Well, ideally I don't want to be skinny fat, or frail. I'd like to stay strong, not necessarily skinny and flabby – Chinaeskimo Jun 29 at 0:51

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Katie · Answer 6 · 2012-07-19 19:30:49Z UTC

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I liked reading Rob's comment. I took it as he intended. Reading that reminded me that the battle of weight may be more within my control, and I'm not doomed because I'm perimenopausal.

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EnglishRose · Answer 7 · 2013-03-19 16:11:17Z UTC

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I took it as positive too. Not all women get fat in middle age by any means.

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