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Just seen Martin Berkham/ Leangains new post on "Why Does Breakfast Make Me Hungry"

Very interesting theory - I've always wondered why I get hungrier with breakfast than I do when I skip it.

So I wondered if you experience this too - and if you've noticed a change as you've improved your insulin sensitivity? Do you agree with his theory?

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Eating. High fat, high protein low carb breakfast makes me very full for hours.

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This. If my breakfast is eggs, meat and greens with cooking fat or an avodado, I'm set until well after noon. Add any dairy or fruit or starch and I turn into a ravenous beast before lunch. – Karen Jun 29 at 14:51
.....avocado... – Karen Jun 29 at 14:52
I'd like to keep track of male/female reactions to eating breakfast or not. Since there seems to be difference in how we handle IF (not so good for most women) I wonder if more women wind up happier on a big high protein, high fat breakfast? – Karen Jun 29 at 14:54
For me it's not as simple as high/low protein. I have two go-to breakfasts, both of which keep me full for 5-7 hours: 1) ground turkey, veggie and egg scramble 2) half a sweet potato, chorizo, tomato, fried eggs I know that (1) is high protein, low carb and mod fat. I'd guess that (2) is high fat, mod carb and mod protein – PaleoUK Jun 29 at 16:59
Funny that this question has been asked. This morning I had a three egg omelette with a side of walnuts and could barely finish eating my eggs. – MiMintzer Jun 29 at 18:07
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I like the theory. Rebound insulin response = low blood sugar = early hunger. Berkhan is back!!!

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It's good to see him back - hope to see more regular posts! – Suz - Paleo Oz Jun 29 at 7:15
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Is he really illustrating with a (picture of a) cunnilingus ? :D

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Apparently so. I'm not at all surprised. – Shari Bambino Jun 29 at 16:06
Wow. Wonder how that's supposed to add to the article. – barefeet Jun 29 at 17:56
Niiiiiiiiiiice! – raydawg Jun 29 at 20:33
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When I started in February, I ate 3 squares and an evening snack about 9 pm. Abiut 6 weeks ago, I was doing some n=1 without knowing what it was called. I experimented with IF and found that I felt great only eating for 6 hours from 2-8 pm. Breakfast makes me feel logy. The article sounds good, but I am doing what I do because I thrive. What works for me is what I'm after. I like to find out what has worked for others so I can try new tweaks, but ultimately I don't really care what someone else does - although I hope whatever they're doing is healthy for them.

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As stated above, I pretty much carb "backload" and it keeps me going all day long. I always feel awesome, energetic, and ready to go. I only consume protein+fat throughout the day (Breakfast and lunch. Maybe a small afternoon snack) and then switch to protein+carbs from 5:00-8:00 PM.

I've tested with trial and error and it's definitely what I run best on. If I even use a teaspoon of raw honey or molasses in my breakfast shake, I feel hungry a couple hours later.

If I load up on protein+coconut for breakfast, I'll stay full for 5-6 hours.

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All I know is whenever I eat breakfast - no matter what it is - I am starving all day long. If I don't eat breakfast I sometimes don't eat until 1 pm. I know it's not healthy but I cannot stand being hungry all day. Even if my breakfast is only fat and protein, the same thing occurs. Which is how I ended up on this site.

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I have no verifiable idea, but if I were to speculate it would be because after "breaking your fast" your stomach is stretched with the food and once through the shoot, the enlarged stomach sends signals to refill. If the fast were not broken from the night before, I would wager the stomach is still the size of your fist, and therefore is not "recognizing its emptiness" as much. This is just a guess, I really have no education on the matter.

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I don't know either. But I've found if I eat anything but just fat for breakfast, I eat a lot more during the rest of the day. Even when I just eat eggs my appetite increases a lot.

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yeah, i seem to do best with a whole avocado for breakfast, sometimes with a bit (like 1/4 to 1/3 of a cup) of full fat coconut milk. – karmapolicia Jun 29 at 16:26
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Back in the day when I was convinced that a bagel or cereal or pancakes were an acceptable breakfast, I would basically pass out by midmoring. Even if I had something that was half protein and half carbs, I'd be ravenous by 10 or 11 AM. I actually asked my doctor about it once and she said it was a good thing because it meant my metabolism was "woken up" (oh, my useless doctors, I could go on for days) So I stopped eating breakfast.

When I don't eat breakfast, I generally do not get classicly hungry. If I eat lunch or something even though I don't really want it, I'm fine. But if I go too long without eating, I will start to get that "I really should eat" feeling, and then I find myself eating a meal and feel gross. For some reason my GI system does not like IF.

OTOH, if I eat a lot of fat and protein in the morning, I feel great and don't get hungry until mid/late afternoon. So now I pile on the protein and fat for breakfast and most days I don't eat again until dinner, or just eat a snack like a can of sardines mid-afternoon.

So I guess I disagree with his statement that "post-breakfast hunger is independent of food choice". Maybe it's different for men thant women, but it's certainly not true for me.

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I sometimes have post-breakfast hunger even on a high protein/fat breakfast but usually I don't feel hungry until sometime between noon and 2pm, or if it comes earlier it's mild enough to be ignored easily. If I wake up unable to eat any breakfast, I usually get very hungry by 11am.

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