When going Paleo many years ago, nearly everything got better, except one thing which I have nearly given up on trying to figure out.
Post nasal drip is a huge issue for me and happens on a daily basis. It is worst in the morning after waking up and sometimes after I get the crap out of my throat in the morning, I'm good for the rest of the day. Other times, it comes back later.
There is definitely something there as when I clear my throat and manage to get it out, it's a nasty sticky ball of mucus. Sometime's it is so sticky I can't get it out of my throat.
If you can figure out what is wrong with me, you'll get a prize because this is really a huge issue for me that I need gone.
Here's what I've tried:
Diet: - Strict paleo with no dairy at all (not even ghee) - No nightshades, eggs, nuts, seeds, or white potatoes (auto-immune protocol) - Lean pork, skinless chicken breast, wild fish, or 100% grass-fed beef only (good omega 3-6 balance) - Cooking only with 100% grassfed beef tallow - No fruit except for small amounts of berries (fructose control) - Low carb or high carb has no difference
Environment: - Dustmite covers on boxspring, mattress, and pillow. Allergy duvet cover on hypoallergenic comforter. Sheets and duvet washed on average every week.
During times, when I've had the carpets washed, everything dusted down, fresh sheets and comforter, there has been some relief but really only for a day max. There has to be something that is making me hypersensitive to the allergies. Could there still be a food allergy even with strict auto-immune paleo for over 30 days?
When I feel like I'm overall inflamed (day of bad sleep, too much stress, etc), it is worse, so I figure there is something inflammation going on.
Quick questions for you:
1) Do you drink coffee? Some people with gluten/casein issues cross-react with coffee. I find I have to lay off it a while when I get inflamed or overly stressed because I start getting sinus problems, even with decaf.
2) Have you tried things like ginger tea? I am able to reduce some inflammation with that and similar infusions.
Best of luck! My husband has had off and on post-nasal drip issues for years. Still haven't figured out why.
Also, like Nourished Girl said--Neti pots are amazing. Not a permanent solution, but they'll certainly bring relief.
I stopped having post nasal drip (which was leading to me getting sore throats waay too often) when I included fermented food into my daily diet. It's potentially connected to acid reflux, as that went away at the same time.
You almost certainly have chronic rhinosinusitis and IMO at this point it is not likely to respond to diet. The recommendation for fermented foods is worth trying, but if no response to that, then:
1) Get Immunocap quantitative allergen IgE blood panel appropriate to your area and/or get skin prick test panel by an allergist. BOTH of these tests are reliable with good sensitivity and specificity. These will tell if you have allergies accounting for the PND which is very common. Dust Mites are often the culprit.
2)If #1 is positive, then have SCIT - subcutaneous immunotherapy - this is highly efficacious and actually cures some inhalant allergies over time. It can be highly effective and can prevent new sensitizations as well as progression to asthma. CRS and asthma are actually the same disease, differing only which part of the airway is affected.
3) Whether you have allergies or not, a trial of nasal steroids is warranted for symptom relief. Antibiotics usually have no role.
4) All of this can be handled by your allergist, but an ENT consult might be warranted to see if you have nasal polyps causing obstruction. The initial treatment should be the same, however.
Hi Gill, I have year round allergies and PND. I have noticed it's not AS bad without dairy. I don't have any dietary recommendations, but wanted to suggest Ayurvedic medicine which helped me greatly. There are two things that really helped me (didn't clear up my PND but helps it "move")
Nasya Oil - An oil blend that you drip in your nostrils, with your head tilted back, 1/2 tsp for both nostrils. It helps "move" the gunk out. I do it before I go to bed, and in the morning. I get my Nasya Oil from Banyan Botanicals, here. If you don't want to spring for Nasya oil you can also try good sesame oil. I like Eden's Sesame Oil. I tried Flora Sesame oil in my nose and it just BURNED - not good. It shouldn't burn, it actually doesn't feel like anything.
Neti pot/Saline rinse/nasal irrigation - This also really helps me help move things out. I like Neilmed's Saline Rinse bottle. Definitely make sure the salinity is correct or else it'll burn.
I don't want to recommend herbs (which also really helped me. I stopped taking the nasal sprays that my regular MD prsecribed to me) since I'm not an Ayurvedic doctor but the oil really helped me. If possible I would start seeing an Ayurvedic doctor (I see mine twice a year), only because they can really fine tune the regimen for you and just to be sure you're taking the right things :)
If you want you can also look up your dosha, I think you might be kapha.
Hope this helps!
It's likely not a complete solution, but, if you can, consider removing the carpet in your home-- especially since you mentioned that having the carpets cleaned seemed to help abate your symptoms, perhaps removing them entirely will help. Best of luck!
Have you tried keeping a food journal? I've had severe allergies for a very long time (even succumbing to allergy shots for over an entire year). But when I went Paleo, most of my allergies went away, but not quite. I would notice that every once in a while, I would get severe nasal congestion/post-nasal drip.
One day, I noticed that I was completely clear, ate a meal and then had an orange for desert. Ten minutes later, I was stuffy/sneezy. It lasted for a short while, and then cleared up while I was at work. Later for dinner, I had a meal and then another orange for dessert. Again, I was stuffy/sneezy ten minutes later .Since it was a totally different environment than my home, I know it was the citrus. So I cut out citrus, and my allergies are fine! I don't even get allergy shots anymore...and am completely clear and can breathe free!
Just wanted to give you an example that you can have the perfect diet on paper, but you still may be consuming something that's not right for you. Try keeping a food journal to determine any patterns.
I would recommend consuming lots of gelatinous bone-broth and probiotic-rich foods (because I believe allergies are ultimately a sign of leaky-gut). Hope this helps! I definitely realize the misery of year-round allergies....
I'm not sensitive to gluten or dairy, I'm just allergic to living in Alabama. Days I am outside without planning leaves me miserable for a week. I'm talking about red watery eyes, rhinitis, swollen sometimes midline tonsils, headache, cough especially at night, sore throat, the whole nine yards. Interestingly, my dad and my toddler have the same issues. I tried natural routines like local honey and Neti Pots, but without medicine it didn't kick it. The only thing to make life bearable for me is: Zyrtec 10mg, Vit C, Vit D, and for when I'm sick, basically COPD medicines, I have a albuterol and bronchodilator inhaler and nasal steroid. Edit: studies have shown most antibiotics do not penetrate the sinuses. However my doctor will prescribe cipro for long-term sinus infections.
Hi I have had it for years most at night as soon as I lie down my nose blocks and post nasal drip starts . Can I ask one thing do any one els have ibs or up set tummy ie bloated crampy and just general problems with bowels ?
My Dad had this type of, what he thought, was post nasal drip for years. Finally one day he goes to a new doctor and the doctor says its caused by acid reflux. My Dad takes some medication for acid reflux and viola, problem gone.
Maybe check that out.
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