Paleo Diet and Paleolithic Diet Questions & Answers

Question

0

My doctor recently encouraged me to not consume dairy products for a month and I was mostly successful. 90% of my eczema cleared up so I know at least my skin wasn't liking dairy.

But this morning I drank 6-8 ounces of coffee with lots of heavy whipping cream in it...and now I feel nauseous and have a headache. Is dairy really the culprit and has this happened to anyone else?

It is possible that it was expired cream...the stuff partially globbed out almost like soft-serve and partially normal thin liquid. Does that sound like bad cream or was it just separated? (It was given to me from a waiter at a cafe in a normal paper carton so I really want to doubt they'd want to poison me.) I also doubt it was grass-fed.

flag	asked Jul 17 at 16:39 erikaj 112●8

Update: So I waited a couple days and had a small cappuccino this morning with grass-fed milk in it aaaand...no problems! I'm still going to try and narrow it down more, however. – erikaj Jul 20 at 18:52

kris · Accepted Answer · 2012-07-17 16:55:20Z UTC

I would suggest waiting a few days- go dairy free again- and then try it again but this time with organic heavy cream and see the reaction you have then- there may be a difference in how you feel- Restaurants do not use full heavy cream- they use half and half and often it is mixed with stabilizers, oils, and chemicals to thicken it since it is cheaper to produce this way, so you definitely were not consuming cream in it's natural state which could have something to do with it.

Personally, I think and feel from all I've read/experienced that avoiding dairy is best- but it can be SO hard to do- I went off the deep end and had a huge cup of coffee (which I never drink) filled with a carton of organic heavy cream yesterday and yep- felt sick and had a headache (of course I had just consumed a ton of fat/calories as well as a load of caffeine)- both caffeine and dairy are addictive so here I am finding myself wanting to have some more, even though it made me feel terrible!

But I think the reaction you have depends on whether or not you tolerate dairy so I wouldn't assume it isn't possible to have dairy until you've done an elimination diet and properly reintroduced it to see what your reaction is. Also, you may react to pasteurized dairy, and not to raw, or react to non-fermented dairy, but not fermented, etc.

Jonathan · Answer 2 · 2012-07-17 16:57:00Z UTC

1

Organic Heavy Cream is going to be Ultra High Temperature Pasteurized, so that'll give mostly anyone a problem. If you really want to see if you have a problem with dairy, try organic grass fed FRESH cream and see if that causes a reaction.

answered Jul 17 at 16:57

Jonathan
81●2

Oh, good to know! Thanks. – erikaj Jul 17 at 17:12

More Butter Please · Answer 3 · 2012-07-17 17:03:11Z UTC

When was the expiration date on the carton? [ETA: Sorry, just re-read and saw that you were at a cafe.] HWC usually takes a lot longer to go bad than milk does because it's mostly fat and no lactose (sugar). HWC does tend to separate in the carton--I've had it come out globby, especially as I'm nearing the end of the carton. But if it didn't taste "off" or smell bad, it was probably okay.

So yeah, you may be one of those people who just can't do dairy at all. My sister is that way--she's not lactose intolerant (like I am); she's allergic to the proteins in milk, and thus all dairy products give her problems. However, eliminating all dairy from her diet did get rid of her nearly-lifelong case of keratosis pilaris. She had the bumps on her upper arms by the time she was in first grade, and at 36 she's now free of them.

You could try an experiment by buying a fresh carton of HWC, using it, and observing your results. Maybe the stuff you used this morning was bad--or maybe you just can't "do dairy." Either way, you'll know for sure.

Bill1102inf · Answer 4 · 2012-07-17 16:55:45Z UTC

0

It was not grass fed unless it was very expensive and it would be written on the box.

It was probably bad if it clumped out, but that doesn't mean much.

If 90% of your eczema cleared up off dairy, why on earth would you even bother trying to reintroduce it? There is absolutely no need to drink liquid fat from a grain fed cow whatsoever anyway. Let your body burn its OWN fat rather than that garbage.

answered Jul 17 at 16:55

Bill1102inf
7,544●7●27

Ha, that seems to be the case for most grass-fed products, right? Well I trusted the cafe too much and didn't even look at the carton. But I think I'll go back and ask to see it so I know for SURE what I had! I was just happy they had more than half and half. Plus, I love the taste of creamy dairy! But if I have to always use coconut milk in my coffee, then I'm OK with that too. – erikaj Jul 17 at 17:11

Is dairy making me/you sick?

4 Answers