It seems that there's less and less Paleo people around. I see plenty of WAPF-type diet eaters here that recommend fermented forms of dairy and fermented/sprouted grains, but not many people who follow a strict Paleo diet. Wondering why this is. Is it because Paleo is too restrictive and a WAPF diet is essentially Paleo+healthy grains and dairy (which are generally the two food groups "normies" and unhealthies can't live without?)
I'm still nearly 99% Paleo but for dark chocolate a few times a week. I do need to dial back the almonds again, but I've been working long hours without notice and that's what I have in my drawer as a "go to" snack when I'm truly hungry and IF isn't feeling like an option at that moment. I am grain free, dairy free, and eat very little in the way of carbs when I'm not exercising regularly to use them up. For the first time in 30 years (I'm 43), I feel like I have control over my body - allergies are almost non-existent now, acne is 98% gone most of the month (I am still a girl after all!), aches and pains are gone, blood sugars don't swing wildly any longer, haven't had a headache since I started eating Paleo. I just don't see a downside to it. Yes, my friends point out how inconvenient it is to have to cook all the time - but I love to cook and just take 5-6 hours on a weekend morning (or afternoon) and do it up all at once. Not a big sacrifice to feel good, I don't think. I think it's quite liberating that after 20 years of having to eat every 2 hours from wildly fluctuating blood sugars (not diabetic, but obviously insulin issues), I can go up to 18 hours without eating - super convenient when I travel through American airports with nothing but crap food offerings.
I think Paleo is too difficult for most people, which is what I tell my husband when he suggests that Paleo will take over the world. No, it won't - most people I know can't forego the conveniences of frozen foods and take out/restaurant fare. Hey, no matter to me, I love Paleo and can't NOT eat Paleo - I feel horrible. That being said, I'm happy for the ones that don't have any leaky gut issues or allergies (such as my husband who also eats 98% Paleo with full fat fermented Kefir). Good for them - it leaves more grass-fed meat and ghee for me. :)
The crowd never seems to lighten up around here does it? Even Paleo Babby Jesus eats a corn tortilla every once in a while. (Or have we kicked him out of the club already?)
What the hell ever happened to the pareto principle? You know, doing 80% paleo and 20% other good stuff? Strict paleo can be a useful tool, but I personally have absolutely no interest in following a strict diet unless I absolutely have to.
You also are going to be WAY more effective IRL when interacting with other people if you refrain from calling foods "bad." I always just say "oh, I can't have any XYZ because it makes my stomach act up/allergies worse/etc." If they want to know more about your diet, they will ask you.
Interesting observation. I can't even picture myself touching dairy and the idea of "healthy grains" makes me giggle. 100%, strictly Paleo here. It isn't hard at all and I certainly don't dwell on what I don't eat.
Strict paleo is restrictive. I think it tends to attract people who trend towards the extreme/ascetic, people who strive for optimal, or people who are for whatever reason unable to eat any other way (IBS, gut issues or whatever). Once the latter group begins to experience a healing of the gut or the former realizes that a few compromises don’t make that much of a difference, then it only seems natural that people would tend to experiment with other non-paleo foods.
The premise that humans as a whole have not evolved since the paleolithic and should therefore only eat a diet in keeping with that stage of evolution is not widely accepted even in paleo communities, or at least if shouldn’t be. To be honest we can only speculate about some of the specifics regarding diet. The fact that any populations of humans should be adapted to be able to utilize milk beyond childhood should tell us that powerful selective forces are at work in shaping our individual evolution. I personally think it is important to take our recent ancestor’s way of life into consideration when determining what is optimal for each of us and balancing that with what is reasonable for the long-term.
It isn’t as though we all have the infrastructure or the means available to support 100% paleo compliant lifestyle. We all make some compromises and I think you’ll find that to be true once you’re a little further on your own journey. You may even find the dogmatic assertions of “newbies” to be a bit much.
Personally I find that if I follow my daily fast and workout with a PWO whey protein shake and later a decent dinner at home then I’m better able control the amount deleterious foods (for me) that I take in. Whereas if I had to pack a steak or other clean protein source with me throughout the day or try to find another source, my lifts and body recomp would suffer considerably. So I drink a shake and then eat a proper meal at home. If it means I’m not strict paleo in your eyes well so what. But for the record I really don’t see many paleos who eat grains, fermented or not on a regular basis—dairy is another case but one that is understandable in my eyes as long as your still able to move towards your optimal.
I'm definitely less hardcore paleo than I used to be. Just have come to the conclusion that paleo is too restrictive for folks with functional healthy guts. I simply minimize the verboten paleo foods and find I do just fine. I think most folks without deranged metabolisms, immune and digestive systems would also do fine with such an implementation.
I think there may be some bias in the way we all talk about our diets. I totally get when folks need to be strict for health reasons, but the rest of us are all at varying degrees of compliance/adherence.
Chris Kresser nailed it when he called it a "Paleo template". Meaning there are some boundaries and depending on your individual needs, resources, and desires, your diet will not look like the diet of the Paleo next to you. It's kind of silly to compare one version of Paleo to another.
As someone who writes about this stuff, I certainly don't talk as much about my off-plan food choices. Maybe we should more often, to give a more accurate portrait of what Paleo looks like in real life. It would be fun to see a week's worth of food diary from all the big wigs, like Sisson, Wolf, Whole9, NomNomPaleo, etc. I wonder how many off-plan choices we'd see and how often?
In a philosophical way, it's sad that it's not easier to eat this way, that we have to expend so much energy just trying to stay within Paleo parameters. I wish it were easier, for all of our sakes.
I think there's a greater percentage of people on PaleoHacks who are looking to solve some serious problems they're having than in the Paleo community as a whole. They are more likely to find the typical low carb paleo diet isn't the cure all it presents itself as.
I had some serious digestive thyroid and hormonal issues that Paleo did not solve at all. When I figured out that a great deal of Paleo approved food was giving me problems, I started questioning the wisdom against all grains, dairy and legumes. I don't want to not eat something that I have no problems with and that I enjoy a great deal just because its not "Paleo." And I'm not going to stuff myself with "Paleo" foods like coconut, kale and cauliflower when they make me want to curl up and die from the pain they cause. I don't see the logic in that.
Still, I only have 1-2 servings of grains a day - rice or masa. And I do make some gluten free oat bars once in a while that are lightly sweetened with maple syrup. 80% of my diet is still Paleo and I do think Paleo is the right approach: eating animals is the most important thing, and the closer you are to the earth with your food, the better. We really do need to shift the focus in nutrition away from grains in the US. I also greatly appreciate the skepticism over popular medical advice - stay out of the sun! eat less meat! pills cure everything!, etc.
I strive for full paleo ( no dairy, grains, potatoes, sugar, vegetable oils, legumes) whenever possible. I have been striving for full-paleo, since 2010. As a recovering alcoholic, and as someone who struggles with extreme anxiety, fatigue, and malnutrition from gluten-intolerance, I find that when I am fully "paleo-in the strict-whole30-sense", I feel tons better- almost like a new person.
I do like to eat sweet potatoes, at least once a week, to get a bit of starchy sweetness, but when I get lax and start thinking a few nights of corn chips and cheese aren't going to hurt me (every week), I can see the cumulative ill-effects on my waist-line, and general well-being.
I love cooking healthy food: meat, veggies, and the very occasional fruit dessert. Eating out is still fun, but it's expensive, and I am disappointed when I pay to eat out and can make the dish 100X better at home. We tend to have a lot of dinner parties at my place, instead.
I have been trying to think of food more as fuel and nutrition, rather than entertainment. By doing a few weeks of eating strictly unseasoned meat and heavy green veg stew, I realized that I often eat more for flavor than actual hunger.
I don't hate food, I love it! But, I think my mental priorities have changed: my every day food is about nourishing my weak body, so that I can grow stronger and accomplish more. Party food for me is for special occasions, where anything gluten-free goes, but I still can't really enjoy it as much. The co-workers pity me, because I can't eat cake. They blink, uncomprehendingly, when I say it REALLY doesn't bother me- I just don't want it.
A LONG, SUNNY, WALK IN THE WOODS= 20 SLICES OF CAKE TO ME.
I'm not paleo anymore, because I don't believe it is optimal and it is not sustainable for me as a student. Too much work cooking stuff, and if I fast I get issues.
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