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SO there are a few related questions out there but I'd like some fresh feedback on this:

I plan a 30-40 mi/day "fastpacking" trip that will last about a week. I will gorge on restaurant food once or twice when available, and have comfortably tested my ability to trail run after 24-hr fast, exercise on no carb days, etc. I am not terribly concerned with variety and pleasant taste, but I am concerned with weight and energy. I'd like to pack about 20k calories for the trip, nonperishable and non-hydrated food. Pemmican probably at least half of it, but anybody else have any experience or suggestions on this?

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JB Primal · Accepted Answer · 2012-08-02 14:55:51Z UTC

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Jon W.

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answered Aug 2 at 14:55

JB Primal
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	Sweet! I've contacted you via the website. – jon w Aug 3 at 7:34
	Ok folks, long awaited feedback here. I received a "primal pack" for evaluation. Limited space here, but I sent full comments to JBP. It was a vacuum pack with ~1000 cal worth of nuts, dried fruit, jerky and hard cheese. My trip was postponed so by the time of use it was >90 days old, had bounced around my backpack with heavy objects, some hot days in back of my car, etc. It lasted very well and still tasted fresh and flavorful. With these four items sealed in close proximity there was some flavor crossover, especially from the dried apricots. Overall very lightweight, handy and met my needs. – jon w Nov 8 at 0:42
	These and a variety of other portable high quality food items are available for sale at paleopax.com. – jon w Jan 25 at 21:27

CD · Answer 2 · 2012-08-02 12:17:37Z UTC

Jon, I've gone for weekend fastpacks -- which is no where near the level you are planning -- but here's some of my packing stuff:

SeaBear Ready-to-Eat Sockeye Salmon
Nuts (Macadamia and Almond -- but whatever)
Barney Butter Snack Packs
Dried Fruit (there's a great one at my local farmers market that I usually grab and throw into a sealed zip)
Salazon Dark Chocolate with Sea Salt and Coffee beans (but that's just me :))
Jerky (which you already have)
Paleo Krunch Bars
Coconut Water (although for your trip this is probably too heavy)

Jake · Answer 3 · 2012-08-02 13:28:35Z UTC

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Bring a bow and arrow and kill animals along the way.

answered Aug 2 at 13:28

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you hardcore bro – CS Aug 2 at 15:19

Diane · Answer 4 · 2012-08-02 16:46:32Z UTC

Here's what I brought for my 5 day backpack in the Winds:

Homemade pemmican. Hard to choke this down. Not tasty, but effective.
Instant coffee with coconut cream powder
Macadamia nuts
Homemade bars consisting of, bottom-up, dried flattened banana; mixture of almond butter, shredded coconut and beef tallow, topped with pressed dates and walnuts. Sugar coma resulting.
Beef heart jerky
Dehydrated sweet potatoes, coconut manna, curry spice pastes (actually didn't need these) with dehydrated vegetables, dehydrated chicken and fresh foraged greens and mushrooms. I also substituted pemmican for the coconut manna and curry which was terrific, probably the tastiest thing I've ever brought backpacking.
Candy (chocolate covered bridge mix.) A southbound hiker on the trail gave this to me and nobody else wanted it so I ate it. Happily, I'll add.

Brian · Answer 5 · 2012-08-02 08:59:04Z UTC

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This is a tough one, The first thing that comes to mind is some kind of chocolate/coconut/fat bar. Maybe some nut butters too (jar of almond butter with dark chocolate and coconut oil mixed in?). Im unclear if you want to eat any carbs but you might try beet and sweet potato chips. What trail are you doing?

answered Aug 2 at 8:59

Brian
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	^ good ideas. Some macadamia nut butter and coconut oil or even mct oil (maybe mixed in some ratio) would be good energy dense options. Could store it in plastic for weight. Defo some kind nut butter is going to be a good idea.. – Jamie Aug 2 at 12:32
	Mixing coconut oil, chocolate and nut butter works...I've tried 50/30/20% ratio and both macadamia and brazil nuts and it's ok (actually, I've made some even for home eating). You have to keep in mind coconut oil melts at 24C, so you might end up drinking it (awful idea :)). – idoru Aug 2 at 13:03
	@Brian, Superior hiking trail ending at duluth. I've tried something like the mix you described and it's quite decent in the fridge, but unfortunately gooey above ~70F. Still fiddling with the mix. – jon w Aug 3 at 7:36

Chelsea · Answer 6 · 2012-08-02 13:45:06Z UTC

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Definitely coconut butter/coconut oil. Oh and coconut milk (1000 calories a can) I buy the organic kind that has the pull lid and its really light.I think its made by Ayum

answered Aug 2 at 13:45

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CS · Answer 7 · 2012-08-02 15:25:49Z UTC

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Hey Jon, I just packed ten 3000 kcal (12 hour) bags for a race I'm doing next week.

Larabar
Pemmican Bar (x3)
Coconut Butter
Banana Chips
Almond Butter
Mashed Sweet Potatoes (Baby Food)
Small Primal Pac
Veggie Chips

I'll probably throw some precooked bacon in there too.

answered Aug 2 at 15:25

CS
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Lara bars worked out well for me. At around 80 cents each, 200+ calories, and never more than a half dozen simple ingredients. They do run high in sugar and PUFA but the composition is essentially dried fruit and nuts, and I never saw any with sugar or grain products. – jon w Nov 8 at 17:00

jon w · Answer 8 · 2013-01-25 21:29:28Z UTC

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Here's a nice roundup of some newer products. Oriented to ultramarathoners and multi day events. http://www.trailrunnermag.com/component/content/article/325-no-more-gels

answered Jan 25 at 21:29

jon w
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Jeff · Answer 9 · 2013-01-25 22:02:01Z UTC

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A pound of chia seeds and some pumpkin seed butter.

answered Jan 25 at 22:02

Jeff
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