I see some of you here have gone no-poo and I have some concerns. I already plan to ditch commercial shampoo once I run out of what I have. I've already done away with hairspray & all other products, the shampoo & conditioner are the last ones left. I'm debating what to do instead. I was just going to make shampoo but then I heard of this no-poo thing & have been researching it.
I have thick, waist length curly/frizzy, fine hair (thick meaning there is alot of it, fine meaning the strands themselves are very thin), kinda like Janis Joplin but more curly/puffy. My concern is this:
See in my world, conditioner in the shower is a vital part of my being able to brush my hair at all. To me, no conditioner = no brushing or combing.
I get that I will have to go thru a greasy, grungy period of detox that I'll have to figure out how to hide from my boss. (I work front desk at an upscale hotel, clean & well groomed appearance is in the dress-code) But my hair is soooooo tangly. For years I have been using conditioner just so I could get a brush through it & it only works if I do it with the conditioner still on. Literally, just moving my hair from in front of my shoulder to behind it leaves a huge rats nest of knots. I wish I were exaggerating. Its really bad. Most of the time I just braid it, combing as I go, to avoid any chance of tangle later. I don't want to wear dreadlocks. I am so scared that, or something similar, is what is going to happen if I try no-poo.
Do any of you know the secret to making this work without looking like a birds nest of tangles? lol
Who said you need to give up brushing!? I do no-poo and no-soap, but I brush my hair, and I'm a male. Brushing is important to spread around your hair's natural oils.
You are by no means obligated to adopt ANY strategies you find here or in the paleosphere. You may do what you want to do, like a normal human adult person.
EDIT: Sorry for my snarky tone. You are also by no means obligated to put up with it!
I still use conditioner but not shampoo. I have super thick curly hair too, so I know what you're talking about. Never give up the conditioner... just get a mild one. Also, comb your hair with the conditioner in while you're showering (that's what I do) and it has made a huge difference.
What helped me was using a strong wide toothed comb and not a brush. Brushing is what makes it so tangled and frizzy.
For recipes to make your own hair care products, go to the library and check out the book Curly Girl. It's all about going no-poo for our hair type.
Vinegar is the most awesome hair conditioner in the world!!! My skin is very dry but my hair is very greasy so no poo did not go very well for me. Because of my dry skin I can not take daily showers without having to use body lotion. I have no patience for that, plus it doesn´t really work so I have foregone the traditional shower.
So I will wash my hair bending over the bathtub. I use a plain old soap bar made of only olive oil, no fragrance or anything. Then I rinse. Then I pour a 0.5L bottle of water and 1-2 tbsp apple cider vinegar over my hair, then wait 3-5 seconds and rinse again. After towel drying I can comb through my hair easily with a wide toothed wooden comb. Much more easily than with just plain old conditioner. Also my hair does not get any where near as static in winter as it gets with conditioner.
Then I squat in the bathtub and wash the important parts while avoiding getting most of my body wet.
Brushing is important, but brushing without conditioner for a girl with medium-length hair can mean ripping your hair out to get the brush through your head. I know.
Quick fix: Coconut oil will get any tangles out of your hair. But you might have to blow-dry unless you want to look oily all day. Experiment.
Not so quick fix: I have the same problem! How do you get the tangles out without conditioner?? I have used ACV (apple cider vinegar) and it makes my hair look a little oily and it doesn't do a good enough job of getting the tangles out.
I think coconut oil before the shampoo may work, but it is a little expensive to use a lot of it every time. Maybe I should get a big tub of the cheap stuff. Any other ideas?
Update: I have been using Dr. Bronner's shampoo and vinegar (NOT acv) mixed with a lot of water. Does the trick! Wish I had tried before but I had just about given up. Now my hair looks clean, beautiful, and is easy to brush.
a few months ago i started using baking soda as shampoo (1 tbsp/cup water) and braggs apple cider vinegar as conditioner (1 tbsp/cup water). sometimes i use beer instead of the acv. i was amazed at how nice my hair came out -- i have long, fine hair. about once a week i use conditioner after the baking soda instead of the acv. it's very nice. i never had to go through a "grungy" period. i do this every m-w-f and my hair is so happy :) so is my pocketbook :)
The no brushing thing, in my experience, is what people with really curly hair do, or don't do, if you follow. That their hair is more manageable and attractive if they don't break up the curl and make it frizzy.
I have long, curly, fine hair as well, and I had the same worry about brushing. Turns out, after the oils distribute and even out, my hair is easily brushable (with a pick, or a wide-tooth comb), wet or dry. I mean, think about it: the only thing the conditioner is doing is coating your hair with wax or oil. Your body will do the same thing, given a few weeks.
I'll say that the only time I am UNable to brush my hair is after it gets shampooed, and all the oils are stripped away. That ain't fun.
My advice: go without your products. Use jojoba oil sparingly on the tips of your hair until your own oil levels even out (it'll get greasy at first, but that goes away). Work water completely through your hair while in the shower, to strip away any EXCESS oil/dirt/etc., and see what happens.
Sounds like you and I have the same hair type! I have been going no-poo for about a month now and I can actually run my fingers through my hair! You can use a brush but just after showering. Never again until the next shower. It's amazing! Just use apple cider vinegar and water to rinse and that's all. The acv conditions and detangles as well as cleanses your hair. And you don't have to do it every day!
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