Just interested in your responses. I give a long facepalm and explain that calcium is abundant in green leafy vegetables, as well as some fruits/nuts, and I'd rather get my calcium without lactose, casein, and hormones in the mixture
Their latest response to that is "THERES NOT ENOUGH CALCIUM IN VEGETABLES U N33D DAAARY" "NOT ENUF." "YUR BONEZZZZ", so I just tell them we've only been consuming dairy for the past 10,000 years, and ask how we survived before that.
That doesn't work so well on the young earth creationists though.
You could cite this recent post from the New York Times
'Osteoporosis? You don’t need milk, or large amounts of calcium, for bone integrity. In fact, the rate of fractures is highest in milk-drinking countries, and it turns out that the keys to bone strength are lifelong exercise and vitamin D, which you can get from sunshine.'
'Sugar — in the form of lactose — contributes about 55 percent of skim milk’s calories, giving it ounce for ounce the same calorie load as soda.'
'This in a country where as many as 50 million people are lactose intolerant, including 90 percent of all Asian-Americans and 75 percent of all African-Americans, Mexican-Americans and Jews'
I don't explain myself to anyone. Hell, if all I consumed was skittles and Jack Daniels I wouldn't be compelled to have to defend myself.....
If someone is truly interested I guess thats a different story.
I recently got this question from my family members (extended ones) and I responded with a question. What makes dairy good for you? Their answer is always, vitamin D and other important nutrients. Then I ask them, well, where does the milk get those from? The answer is always, well the milk has been fortified with them. then my final question is always...OK, so if milk is so good for you then why do they need to add stuff to it? Leaves em stumped every time.
I explain that dairy is not necessarily good for everyone (insulinogenic properties + hormones + lactose + casein).
I explain that many people have strong bones without dairy.
I explain that there are other sources of calcium besides dairy.
I explain that you don't need as much calcium if your diet is lower in toxins and antinutrients.
I explain that there is more to bone health than dairy (vitamin D, vitamin K2, magnesium, weight-bearing exercises.
The book Vitamin K2 and the calcium paradox is great!
I personally do need dairy, otherwise my teeth complain. But not any type of dairy. It must be only from goat/sheep/buffalo (more compatible casein to that of normal cows), and it must be fermented (goat kefir is godsend for health).
Getting rid of grains with phytic acid will help your calcium levels more than anything. Some are more tolerant to dairy than others. I use pastured organic hormone free heavy cream in my coffee and for desserts, but I have no problem with it. I also do aged cheeses.
Who is telling you? A doctor, or some random schmoe on the street?
One view is that digesting milk as an adult is a relatively recent evolutionary adaptation (within the last few thousand years) and many people / cultures don't have it. Milk does not factor into many Asian diets for example. You can get all of the nutrients you need from other sources.
The whole thing about milk being the "perfect food" is just a product of big agra marketing.
Also vitamin K2 is very important, it's found in grass-fed animal fats and dairy (like kerrygold butter), pastured egg yolks. Weston Price called it 'Activator X'.
K2 can five fold increase calcium absorption, and also helps the calcium get into the teeth and bones (which means you'll only need to eat 200mg calcium, not the RDA of >1000mg! for a start).
Supplementing vitamin D without K2 can lead to calcification of the arteries causing heart attacks.
The article really explains the science of K2 and why it's so vital: http://www.westonaprice.org/fat-soluble-activators/x-factor-is-vitamin-k2
Also this book is incredible: http://www.amazon.com/Vitamin-K2-Calcium-Paradox-Little-Known/dp/1118065727
My mother has bone issues and I gave her supplemental K2 as MK-7, thorne brand, and she is doing very well taking 1mg (1 drop) per day.
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