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Hey everyone, I need some suggestions. I've been Paleo for almost a year. I have dropped about 40lbs this past year which is awesome...I'm happy with that. However, I am clearly not where I need to be. I am 5'10, 208lbs...large, athletic framed woman. I have been weight-training since May where I have firmed up and gained initially with the new weight lifting added to my routine, but I have since lost that weight. But, I have not lost weight in 10 weeks.

I'm getting a little bummed about it cause I'm working so hard. I do circuit-lifting 4-5x a week and HIIT sprints 3x a week. I eat very good Paleo. I cheat maybe once or twice a week on the weekends but the rest of the week I am 100% Paleo. To help you out, here is what my daily eating looks like:

Upon waking: 16oz of water/2 boiled eggs or a quick protein shake WORKOUT Post workout: 3 egg omelette with leftover meat and salsa and sometimes avocado on top Lunch: salad or deli roll ups and some veggies Dinner: a big family Paleo meal with meat and veggies

I must be missing something because I feel like I am doing everything right. Thanks for helping me!!! I really need to break through this plateau

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I'm in the same situation. :( – Kelleil Sep 15 at 18:39
Are you tracking your calories? It's really cals in / out in most cases. I know your first reaction may not be to agree with that but I can tell you once I got serious about tracking every single thing that went into my mouth and looking at the nutrients in depth, the weight fell off easily. – Bobbie Sep 15 at 18:44
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Also, have you thought about NOT cheating for 30 days? Trying a Whole30 Challenge or something? Also, I think it's important to remember you cannot correct a weight problem by attempting to out train it. You know the whole saying "abs are made in the kitchen" is so true. – Bobbie Sep 15 at 18:46
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I will not track calories. I hate it!!! I've done the Whole30 2x through...once in January and another in March. Seriously, I eat VERY good. I am not a sugarholic or carbholic. I really find it hard to believe it's because of my food. – The Paleo Mama Sep 15 at 18:55

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I'm going to agree with Bobbie and suggest calorie tracking. I've been where you are. I've lost 50# in the last year and a half and had several long plateaus (8 weeks or more). When I would track calories and portion sizes I would find that I was eating more calories (unintentionally) than I figured I burned. Even if you feel like you're eating things that are good for you a calorie deficit is necessary for weight loss. I don't track calories all the time but I do when I hit a plateau and it really gets me over that hump. Good luck!

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I am sooooo not a fan of calorie tracking. But, I guess for one week I could see what I'm taking in. I guess they have an app for this? – The Paleo Mama Sep 15 at 19:44
I've stalled before and I also DETESTED tracking. However I decided to get serious about it and track and lo and behold after tracking religiously day in day out I lost 21 pounds the first month. Into the 2nd month of tracking and I'm posting losses every single week. Now I think it's evident it works. I would also suggest reading the book "Make Shift Happen" by Dean Dwyer. Tracking seriously takes less the 5 mins a day. If you don't have 5 mins to do this but you have time to train your ass off what is the point? – Bobbie Sep 15 at 22:07
As far as the app try lose it. – Bobbie Sep 15 at 22:08
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Your right, Bobbie. As much as I hate it I guess I will try to track my macros and calories for a few weeks to a month and see if I can find something I'm missing. Thank you for the encouragement. I'll check that book out. – The Paleo Mama Sep 16 at 0:58
I'm rooting for you! I just know what it is like to be obese, train my ass off with a trainer, see some initial success and then plateau for months - and wonder why? I hated tracking but now it has become a part of my day and it's not so painful. Best of luck. – Bobbie Sep 16 at 12:47
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I use My Fitness Pal in the iPhone. I think they have a droid app too and it's free :). I use it to track calories in and it'll also let you track calories burned. It even has a bar code scanner.

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I had move to 60-20-20 fat/protein/carb I was eating so much protein and Backing off really helped me.

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I too noticed when my fat percentage is right around 60% I post the best losses. I live reading and analyzing the data of the food I put into my body, how it affects me, and easily seeing what needs to change for results. – Bobbie Sep 15 at 22:10
Ok, I've never tracked macros but I'll have to figure it all out. I plan on starting on Monday, as well as following the Leangains IF outline. – The Paleo Mama Sep 16 at 0:59
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I would recommend IF with one meal a day in the evening, also cut out the fruit and switch to low glycemic veggies with your protein of choice. No alcohol, cut back on caffeine. Try it for a week and see what happens.

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I think I will try it...IF that is. I drink coffee in the morning w/ coconut milk and stevia. And I also have a cup at night(decaf) taken the same way. I don't eat much fruit already cause of the fructose....and not much a fan of alcohol. I'll give it a go this week. I'm reading on leangains now. – The Paleo Mama Sep 15 at 19:43
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I was just reading Marc' Daily Apple blog and he recommends to have more carbs one day per week to re-start a stalled weight loss (or at least this is what I understood from the article).

For more info, here is the source. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/dear-mark-should-i-increase-carb-intake-for-weight-loss/#axzz26WY7ZQop

My personal advice - no fruit and no nuts (with no grains, of course). That usually does it for me. But I never tried it for a long time, one month was the longest.

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Yea, the fruits and nuts do it for me to. I try to keep them out of my diet completely, unless I'm in a hurry and need something quick. Thanks for the article. I just read it. Very interesting. I may give it a go! – The Paleo Mama Sep 16 at 1:00
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I see IF has already been mentioned...Here's what's been effective for my wife and I.

Eat earlier in the evening 6-7pm and stop, no more calories. I like working out in a fasted state in the AM... I don't have my first meal till around 2 PM (we eat 2 large meals) No sugar, including most fruit (for some people, including my wife, fructose is not your friend) We started eating starchy carbs again...1-2 times daily..seems to work better than VLC. Cycling calories (not tracking) Just eat more some days and less others. Absolutely no snacking. Mixing up training...Intervals one day, longer endurance training the next and some days doing 2 short training sessions.

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RE: the lean gains style IF, low sugar, low fruit, higher starch. 100% agree. Don't really dig the endurance stuff personally but everyone has different goals. +1 – Satchmo Sep 15 at 22:09
I just do what I enjoy really..no set routines. Suspension training, kettlebell work, 35 minute runs on the beach with my wife, speed work at the track and 25 mile trail bike rides. – David Sep 15 at 23:44
Thank you all. David, that sounds like how I would like to do it. I'm going to fast 6pm-10am and see how this next month I do. – The Paleo Mama Sep 16 at 1:01
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You say you have not lost any weight, but has your body composition changed? Is added muscle from your workouts balancing out your fat loss? Remember that the number on the scale can be a bit misleading, and the more fat you lose, the more likely this is to happen. But if you are sure this is not the case, then do what others have suggested, and make sure your calorie consumption has not crept upwards. If it hasn't, I would suggest possibly cycling your calories, going a couple of days eating more followed by a couple of days eating less. That may help to change up your metabolic rate.

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As much as I'm hating it, I guess I will have to start tracking. I really loved that Paleo doesn't suggest tracking. However, I guess with the plateau I've hit, I need to track. – The Paleo Mama Sep 16 at 1:03
Oh and the last time i taped myself, since May I had lost 7lbs and 7 inches. Not a dramatic loss but I worked hard for it. However, the last 10 weeks nothing has changed. Measures are the same and scale is the same. I don't really look at the scale much anyways, but even my measures aren't changing. – The Paleo Mama Sep 16 at 1:07
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I'm in the same place as you, only I have not lost weight in about 8 months or so. I have tracked my calories and even with a deficit I don't lose any weight. I think my issue is overtraining. I'm going to back off a bit and see what happens.

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I know I was overtraining by workouts being 6x a week and taking me 1.5hrs to complete. That was 5 weeks ago and I backed down to 4x a week. I guess maybe I'll try to backdown to 3x a week as Leangains suggest. – The Paleo Mama Sep 16 at 1:04
I have no idea if this will work for me, but it's all I have left to try. I don't have any cheat meals or anything like that. But I do have symptoms of overtraining. – Diane Sep 16 at 14:11
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I am in the same situation as PaleoMama.

However, I track my calories faithfully, weighing all my food. I don't cheat either. It would be good to track but it won't necessarily help a woman get over a stall.

For women, fat loss seems to be first and foremost a hormonal equation, so lets try to give suggestions on that paradigm, not the usual diet bs.

The real question I think is: how do I hack my leptin?

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If you want to burn fat you have to train your body to do so. That means following a very low carb, moderate protein, high fat diet. Depending on your lifestyle it could be difficult to follow, but you should get the results you're looking for.

I don't agree with people recommending increasing carb intake. IMHO they are not following the science. For example I see people here telling others to cook rice in bone broth and lather sweet potatoes with butter. It may be very tasty, but don't fool yourself into thinking it's optimal nutrition.

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Skip the protein shake, eat more whole eggs and good quality fats instead - or fast intermittently some days. Protein shakes are insulogenic, so they'll make you gain fat.

Limit carbs to post workout meals - but wait an hour or so, and work out fasted. This will raise your insulin sensitivity. This way your muscle (and liver) glycogen is depleted, and the carb consumption will act as a refeed instead of as a signal to store fats.

Make sure you get plenty of carlories from fat, and enough protein for muscle repair.

Yes, going higher carb can get you out of fat stalls, but don't go too far.

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Going paleo is not calorie counting/fat counting/points counting. Going paleo is about what is the genetic best for our bodies. So I used to be hung up on weight/size/exercise. Lots of plateaus, lots of binge mentality. So Here is what I do. Eat more fat, don't eat baked goods even if they are deemed paleo (because I have found that you will snack more when you eat baked goods and frankly paleo did not bake as a staple). My order of importance to get off the plateau - Vegetables (no potato family), animal protein, fruit, seeds, nuts. So my plate looks like 1/2 plate vegies, 1/4 protein, 1/4 plate combo of fruit seeds nuts. I miss one meal every other day. This last one makes the body jump around a bit confusing it and causing it to start the fat release. I don't overdo the exercise as with full time work and family to look after I can't sustain more than 1.5hrs x 3 per week. so I cycle for 45 mins on 80% of max training level and 30mins weight training on 2 days a week and walk for 1.5 hours one other day and on non consecutive days so that I always have 1-2 rest days between bouts of exercise. I maintain the exercise level but chop and change the food. I love it. Cheers Laura

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I was in the same boat until about 3 weeks ago. I kept thinking that because I only cheated on the weekend and my meals weren't gluttonous that it probably wasn't affecting my progress. I was so wrong. I would eat 100% paleo throughout the week, then my husband and I would go out on Friday nights and this is what I'd eat: 3 beers (IPAs, not bud light), we'd split a turkey burger and fries. Doesn't sound like a big deal, but when you figure that 3 IPAs are at least 300 calories each, the 1/2 burger and fries are probably between 700-1000 calories, that's a lot. I was working out like crazy, but basically just spinning my wheels. My dinner lately has been about 400 cals, saving me around 900 calories for that meal. I highly recommend you track closely for a few days at minimum to get an idea of what you're eating, including weekends. In the last few weeks I've cut out my hour long cardio workouts and cut calories and I've lost 8 pounds.

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I eat very good Paleo. I cheat maybe once or twice a week on the weekends but the rest of the week I am 100% Paleo.

^^ women's logic

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+1 for an accurate observation of the problem, minus several thousand for misogyny. – Michelle Sep 16 at 2:07
I thought this board is supposed to be helpful. Move onto to another post to crash with cynicism. – The Paleo Mama Sep 16 at 2:16
There's always a troll in every bunch. – raydawg Sep 17 at 14:14

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