I would like this thread to be very informative, so that we can all get new ideas and experiment on ourselves. Thanks for sharing
Beware kelp. Apparently people with autoimmune thyroid disorders can kill themselves taking it. I took it to treat hyperthyroidism years ago. I showed significantly hyperthyroid on bloodwork but my doctor wasn't treating it, and I thought I was gonna die anyway. So I figured, iodine is used to treat thyroid storm - a severe form of hyperthyroidism. Kelp is high in iodine. Therefore, my thyroid should take this iodine and shove it (er, calm down).
Usually kelp supplements have a warning for folks with thyroid problems on the side. The warning is to not take them. It is to be heeded. I basically avoid high iodine foods now too (e.g., nori, shellfish).
I'm continually refining my stack, but I'm pretty happy with where it's at now.
I'll start with the last question, which do I advise caution when taking?
I could not do without:
I also take:
And... I have supplemented with an herbal type of thing in the past. When I had an ulcer, everything made me feel so nauseous and I just couldn't eat nearly enough. I was cold, trembling, weak, and lost so much weight so fast that I had to do something to get food down the hatch. It's not a problem nearly so often these days. It's also very helpful for relieving the anxiety and all that comes with starvation-mode.
I have a bottle of GNC Ultra Women's Multivitamins and some fish-derived CLA caplets that I'd gotten in my SAD ulcer days. I don't suppose it would hurt me to take them, since they were kinda expensive and I still have the bottles. I don't see myself going out to rebuy those products, though.
No others. I eat completely paleo, so I receive all the vitamins I need through my natural diet of grass fed meats, vegetables, fruits, and nuts. I will eat spices such as turmeric, chili powder, and cinnamon for their natural health benefits.
I try to stay away from supplements as much as possible and modify my diet instead. You don't want to start becoming reliant on supplements as a way of receiving nutrients.
I also eat fermented foods on a daily basis. If I did not, I might consider a probiotic but consider it a far second in terms of health and benefits.
Oh, reading your comments I use to supplement with marijuana and speacial shrooms.....those were very nice for my younger development ;). Good times. I neither regret the use nor feel the need to revisit, so I suppose it was very much an everything has its time and place sort of experience.
I'm currently not taking all of these as I'm experimenting.
I won't be taking zinc again, or magnesium citrate. Both were apparently very harsh on my stomach. I also won't be using MCT oil anymore because it gave me diarrhea and skin issues (may be brand-related). Other supplements that gave me issues were primrose oil, fish oil (killed libido), zyrtec (= levocetirizine), ...
A lot of supplements are useful, but provided one follows a paleo diet rich in a bevy of meats, eggs (choline), and colorful veggies, it really just comes down to:
On top of that, fun ones that can be useful are:
Former Type 1/2 Diabetic, was Insulin-dependent for 6 years and on medications for 10. I'm prefacing this post with that because it does affect what I take.
I've tried almost every other thing out there. I also don't include other things that I make a note to add to food (spices, oils, etc...), even if they aren't part of the planned food dish, as supplements.
My answer is going to be weird but... what can I say.
I have tried tons of supplements and vitamins, and most of them I get a reaction to. I have spent about $500 or more on all the supplements that did not work and made me feel horrible.
Supplements I have tried: different vitamins (too many to list), including the ones made from organic vegetables, fish oil, enzymes (all kinds), DGL, milk thistle, dandelion root, freshly made juices, etc.
The only two supplements that did not give me reaction and seems to be working are:
Chinese herbal medicine that my herbal doctor recommended. I cannot live without them. As soon as I stop taking them, my symptoms come back (not as severe, but noticeable).
Probiotics (at first I got a weird reaction, but then I read about the die-off symptoms and it matched so I kept on taking them).
That's all. I wish I could supplement more, but my body rejects it. So I have to buy more expensive food and wash, clean, cut and cook.
I am probably missing tons of vitamins, but there is nothing I can do about it.
I'm all on board with optimum nutrition right now.
I take: protein powder (double chocolate); multi; fish oil
I take the protein powder because it's delicious and an easy meal post workout I take the multi because I believe that modern foods are not as nutritious as they used to be due to purposeful modifications by humans. I take the fish oil because I don't eat as much fish as I'd like.
I would not do without the protein powder. I love a good steak as much as anyone, but I am never hungry after I workout. Often it takes me three - four hours before I get hungry. Even though I work out fasted. The protein powder gives me the protein necessary in the appropriate window without making me feel bloated ( like force feeding does )
I have had negative experience with Nature Made supplements and NOX. I tripled the nature made multi and did not have neon pee. The optimum nutrition I get yellow pee at 1.5. Also I've had rancid fish oil from nature made.
NOX just made me feel jumpy all the time, and I could not concentrate away from the gym.