I seem to have a chronic gallbladder infection, thats getting worse, despite a good paleo diet, and several courses of yucky anti-biotics. The pain and burping keeps excalating, and even the less than optimal ABs arent keeping it at bay now.
(BTW, this is a NO STONES, deal. This has no connection whatsoever with gallstones, this infection)
Interestingly I can tolerate heavy cream though. I am not sure how common it is to tolerate some high fat foods. My
I am determined to stipulate, emphatically, and legally, that if they find a healthy GB to leave the MF in! I do not want to lose my GB, unless my health/life depends on it.
But sadly, it does kinda look really like this sort of thing, and untreated eventually becomes life threatening. (Massive burping, epigastric pain, screwy lfts, initially fever and chills, serial ultrasound shows clear inflammation in the form of GB wall thickening)
And I do regret this turn of events, because theres no way I want a SAD high carb, low fat diet. Id honestly prefer to stay lowish carb, and high fat, but probably med fat, med carb is more realistic, if thats even possible. And the GB also seems to produce k2, and possibly balance estrogen, so it looks like without it, I am going to need a few supplements. :/ Clearly the GB is alot more important than the fat phobic CW doctors would generally have us beleive.
I have read some great advice about using emulsified fats, olive oil, avocado etc, eating smaller portions. Good Stuff, and great tips.
This is kinda a multi-pronged question, and hopefully not retreading ground.
Basically I want to know : Has anyone gotten decent effect from bile salts or lipase in aiding fat digestion? Is there a combined "fat digestion" product that has both perhaps?
Also, how many of you have total tolerance to fat versus those that can barely handle most fats?
(Did anyone tolerate fats okay, painwise, before their surgery?)
I realise this is a well explored topic, the gallbladder, but hopefully I have introduced some unanswered elements and people are happy sharing their story.
Thanks alot, in advance for any light you can shed here!
Just do what's best for your overall health. My gallbladder was removed 15 years ago and there was no significant impact on my health. I don't normally take any bile salts/stomach acid supplements and I thrive on high-fat meat. I also handle heavy cream, butter and cheese just fine.
What DOES cause problems is starch--if I eat too many carbs, particularly if I succumb to processed carbs, I suffer acid reflux.
My suggestion would be to find the mix of foods that you personally thrive on, then supplement if/as needed with bile salts or stomach acid.
One tactic that really works for me is to avoid eating solid food after 4 pm. My system needs time to process food and rest before going to bed.
I had my gallbladder out when I was 11 years old after battling problems for three months (mine also was not caused by stones). In the following years (before paleo), I suffered what my doctor referred to as 'spasms' whenever I ate rich/fatty foods. A spasm for me involved several sharp, intense pains originating in the spot under my ribs where the gallbladder used to be. They would only last a minute or two, but they were unpleasant enough to make me avoid trigger foods. In the past couple of years (I'm 24 now), I've experimented with NOW Foods Super Enzymes as well as Ox Bile. I've had great results with both. With the Super Enzymes, I find that taking an extra tablet or two with an especially fatty meal gives greater digestive support while just one ox bile tablet seems to do the job. Because of this, I prefer the ox bile. Either way though, I pretty much have full tolerance of fatty meals without any painful or digestive side effects as long as I remember to take one of these supplements.
I hope this helps! Forgive any typos...I'm typing all of this on my phone.
I had my gallbladder out 9 years ago (stones and pancreatitis from them) and there's been no obvious impact on my health. I've tried supplementing with ox bile and don't notice much difference either way. I can eat 50-60% calories from fat and feel fine.
I eat 60-65% of calories from fat with no gallbladder with no problem. Eggs, avocado, bacon, coconut oil, etc., all go down fine. Like another poster, I get horrible indigestion with carbs now though.
Jamie, don't get your gall bladder out! Seriously, don't! I did it and I regret doing it. My doctor (a former surgeon) told me that that's the only way. I believed him because he was very good. Or at least I thought he was very good at the time. What a lie! If I knew then what I know now, I would nod follow any of his recommendations.
One girl here on Paleohacks recommended some naturopathic remedy. I wrote it down and, unfortunately, lost the name of it. But I am sure there are better ways than surgery to deal with sick gallbladder.
Maybe you can find some cheap naturopath that knows? Your surgery is going to cost much more, plus you do not know what you are getting into - all my problems started with having my gall bladder out (not right away though) so it was hard to make a connection.
There are some integrative doctors as well. Maybe they can help you.
Also, W. Price Foundation has a page on gall bladders. They say that you should up your cholesterol - maybe this has something to do with your cream, not sure. Make sure to read it - it is very informative.
Hope somebody here has an answer for you.
I don't have any experience with this but I have learned that bile is very rythmic and if you time your meals at the same time each day it can be of benefit. This book may be of some help too. Maybe talking to someone like Pam K. or another WAPF practitioner for an outside opinion? That's a real bummer man obviously try to keep it but if your life is threatened then you gotta do what you gotta do.
I had my gallbladder taken out earlier this year, back in May. 2 weeks after the surgery I was pretty much back to my regular diet of high fat. I don't have any problems with fat, I eat all types. Most people seem to have the same experience as myself, but there are also people who don't react so well. You just have to hope for the best and hope your body adjusts, good luck!
Hi sweety I had my gallbladder out two years ago. Infection plus stones. I have a big issues with breads pasta starch carbs n me don't get along. Other then that I'm fine. I dont suppliment I just started back of fatty foods.slowly smaller portions and.built.up from there.
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