I'm amazed how this website has changed. Lustig is taken more and more seriously, low-carbing is very popular, ... but the arrogance is sky-high. Kruse, Richard Nikoley, Kurt Harris, Gary Taubes, ... all think they are smarter than everyone else. Even Melissa couldn't take it anymore and she put up with a lot of crap in the past.
Last winter, on VLC, I made a lot of enemies and lost a lot of friends. Sugar saved my personality, and surprisingly didn't cause 'ups and downs' from insulin.
Using large amounts of progesterone makes me very happy and tends to make me dance. As I'm an autistic guy this is a drastic personality change.
Alcoholics and addicted drug users are usually in denial. LSD has been shown to solve alcoholism. Using acid makes me extremely confident, and drastically alters my 'personality'.
Pregnenolone gives me a craving to travel, play the violin, and hug people.
Eating high-tryptophan foods without lts of calcium, gelatin, sugar and salt makes me angry and hateful.
Taking all this information into account, wouldn't it be possible for a low-carb diet to cause arrogance, aggression, closed-mindedness, ...? Causing a vicious cycle of hate? I miss the old PH, where fruit was still hot!!
You know, I direct this to myself as much as at anyone else. I think that taking a big break from analyzing our diets to death over the internet will yield more positive results than endless tinkering with macronutrient ratios.
It is really hard to stop obsessively checking these boards since the promises are so tantalizing: regain youth! look amazing! cure everything! I always feel like I am one supplement or magical vegetable away from achieving amazing results. I want to pay more attention to what and who surrounds my body, not what I am putting in my body.
I suggest taking a big break from online-paleo. Keep whatever dietary choices going that are working for you, but maybe all of us should rejoin the land of the living out there. I feel positively euphoric when I spend a day outside, playing or working. I feel pretty rotten when I "lose" a night researching the exact amount of choline I should be eating and what I should be pairing it with to - ARGRGHRGH! On top of that, I find myself sucked into petty internet battles and it actually impacts my mood... pathetic!
Have a good day. I am going outside to play until I get called in for dinner. Then I will come back in and eat an indiscriminate amount of carbohydrates. But so help me God, I will not Paleohack!
Three people/blogs you should check on then get back to me on how impaire, dogmatic blah blah blah these people are....... http://eatingacademy.com/ http://www.ketotic.org/ http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/
I dont read Harris OR Nikoley. If your an arrogant prick then you add carbs back in and you remain the same.... I think they have proven it WAS NO low carb that did it :P
Most people report better mental clarity on low carb. And judging from the blogs I posted it seems quite likely.
If I understand your question right, you're asking why we have a tendency to get all arrogant about our diets, and that our particular version is the only way to go. Is that correct?
I think that most of us had an "Ah-ha" moment when we realized that food has a profound effect on our lives, and that we are meant to eat a certain way. Suddenly, we left Plato's cave and can see the truth and want to tell everyone else. The only problem is that our view of the real world can be slightly different than others and we splinter off. That's a very human thing to do. Look at the different varieties of: vegetarians, vegans, christians, weightlifters, politicians, etc. We find out what works for us and can't understand why no one agrees with us exactly.
I have found that many of us are rules based. We need to follow rules. "If I do XYZ, then I'll be right." Some of us hate rules and try a mulititude of things. The important lesson I learned in life is, "you have to learn the rules to break the rules." All of us here want to know how our bodies work, and if we're mostly right, we're way healthier than most people.
We need to learn to smile and say, "I know what works for me. I hope what your doing works for you." Who knows, we might learn something new. Even from vegans!
I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with high carb, fruit, low carb or medium carb, GAPS, FODMAPs, Ray Peat... as long as it works for YOU.
Some people here are trying to lose weight, so eliminating fruit could help them. You don't need to lose weight so you can eat as much fruit as you want to.
Melissa is not Paleo, just so you know. She is more like a Perfect Health Diet. Maybe that's what you are too?
Right now I am doing low carb, not because I want to, but I feel it helps me to alleviate my digestive issues. I am happy with the results but.. yeah, I feel I am a bit more aggressive than usual.
I have also noticed that I wake up every morning around 4:00 AM and cannot sleep for a while. But maybe it is from something else? Not sure.
One thing I want you to know - drugs lead you to a DEAD END. Please stop. You are too young and too cute to continue. Think about your future kids, their genetics will be affected by what you take now. You don't need to alter your personality - you already have a nice one. Also, drugs change the chemistry of your brain in a way that you BELIEVE you are confident when in reality you are not. It is not worth it.
I know you don't want to hear it. And I know it is hard to quit. But I really really hope you will find the way to do it. If I were your mom, I would find one million ways to make you quit. But I am not your mom.
P.S. By the way, have you tried tons and tons of real life probiotics from refrigerated section? Also, have you tried fermented cod liver oil with butter oil? You might want to try it to see if it helps you with autism. I felt the difference right away.
Wow, this is gonna be quite the flame war thread. Instead of doing that, let's clearly state that some people do better on carbs than others. I personally don't - going VLC allows me mental clarity, and fat control. Others do better on carbs.
In the end, high carb intake means more ROS, more AGEs and possibly a shorter life. Sorry, but them's the facts. If you happen to do better on carbs, more power to you.
I do some carbs (sweet potatoes, rice), after large workouts, such as today's as a refeed, but that's mostly it, except maybe for a cup of blueberries or such 2x-3x a week. I do have other fruit occasionally, I love figs, not too much sugar in them, 2-3 figs aren't a problem, or a couple of bananas (certainly not 30), or a couple of black plums as a PWO refuel. :)
It's also very true that doing tons of fructose is very dangerous - if you're getting them from fruit and nothing else, you're fine, but for the SAD eat drinking HFCS soda by the liter, you're in a world of pain - so Lustig is right in this.
It's very true that if you're not fat adapted, you'll suffer miserably on VLC until you are. It's very true that if you normally eat carbs and allow your blood sugar to go low, you will be cranky and a pain to others.
It's also very true that if you're fat adapted, you'll get this calmness and mental clarity either fasted, or after eating good fats, but if you do this for too long, you'll feel a bit of anxiety and squirt cortisol to make glucose. So either eat extra protein to make carbs, or eat enough carbs to avoid this issue. I have no mood swings, I have no exhaustion, nor irritability as I did when I was on SAD.
I probably could go higher carb, but if I did, I'd put on a few lbs of fat (and water weight), and I'd be at the mercy of hunger - which would bring in irritability. That's right, being fat adapted means you don't feel hunger for a long time.
I suspect you never allowed yourself to go very far with ketosis, so you didn't get fat adapted. Perhaps some mitochondrial support such as PQQ would have helped, but I'm not you so I don't know - all I can do is describe my other side of the coin and its benefits to me.
If it doesn't help you, that's fine, I don't mind, but let's not open pandora's box and start a flame war between the high carbers and low carbers - there's enough drama in the paleosphere already.
I think you have to look at EVERYTHING that is going on in someone's life to know the effect a single change will make. Low carb, like IF, can potentially be a stressor in one's life. This could result in any number of different effects on one's mood and/or temperament depending on the individual and whatever stresses they otherwise have in their life. Simply put, some people can handle it, maybe some can't. I felt it had a mood leveling effect on me. Pretty much kept me calmer and cooler. However, as I started increasing my workout intensity, I realized it probably wasn't optimal for recovery and performance.
As a T2D I don't have a choice, low-carb is the only way I can control my Blood Glucose (without meds). The lower-carb I go, the better my control. To eat carbohydrates would be to accept poor BG control.
I've never felt healthier, happier, fitter or more lucid than I feel on <25g of carb a day.
What I find is that people are emotionally overcharging the whole issue of carbs.
Eat them. Dont eat them. I dont care! ....Its your body, your choice.
Theres so many stupid debates on PH, with people saying "You must eat carbs, low carb is bad for you" "no carbs are bad" etc etc. YAWN!
Do whatever you choose to do, take in what ideas you want to take in, and stop validating your choices and rationalising them by trying to convert others!
The last thing you should do is trust some randoms advice on how to maintain your personal wellbeing. You should instead weigh your own personal choices based on information. If that information was represented as opinion, theory and personal experience, thats no problem. But alot of the time its not represented that way. Neither by the so called experts, or those on paleo hacks.
You just need to listen to the debates and reasoning behind all of these experts, to realise that much of their reasoning is just that, nothing evidenced, nothing certain, just a jumble of concepts loosely supported by a few studies or some logic.
Its like people warring over the existance of the higgs boson before CERN. It becomes like a endless pointless religous debate.
Just get over yourselves people. Paleo is VLC, LC and moderate carb. Take your pick based on your goals and what works for you.
And if your a peatatarian, great, good for you. However, is that really paleo or primal? (Not that I care) . But, IDK, from what I have heard, doesnt really sound like it. Maybe in part.
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