Paleo Diet and Paleolithic Diet Questions & Answers

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Been reading more and more about our food supply.

About Monsanto, seed patents, and GMO food.

I already avoid wheat, soy , and corn.. On nutritional basis, but their GMO status is just as scary to me, if not scarier. Just like those mutant Salmon, I don't like the idea. Even worse is knowing how they do it. Splicing soil bacteria with ecoli to cause the plant to produce it's own potent pesticides.

Canola etc are bad enough without this. But the corn and sweetbeet for sugars are also predominantly made with pesticide manipulated ecoli battered GMO ingredients.

I've teased a few friends who bought Organic Sugar, saying " Organic Sugar is still Sugar". Turns out I may have been wrong, at least the 100% organic is supposed to be GMO free.

I'm going to make an extra effort to stay GMO free and vote with my wallet to buy GMO free food.

Do you make the effort to avoid GMO?

Edit : wanted to also mention, the potential DNA damage to animals fed GMO grains. Another huge reason for grassfed beef. Monsanto better not be making mutant GMO grass!(sadly GMO Alfalfa is out)

Heres a great link I wanted to share about the Potential Dangers, Please feel free to discuss your opinion:

http://www.seedsofdeception.com/Public/GeneticRoulette/HealthRisksofGMFoodsSummaryDebate/index.cfm

edited Apr 6 2011 at 12:38

asked Dec 27 2010 at 19:33

Stephen-Aegis
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Yes I actively avoid GMO food. – Cacktus Wayfinder Dec 27 2010 at 20:07

I absolutely avoid. If I know something has anything GMO in it, I simply will not consume. – Todd Dec 28 2010 at 6:40

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Great link. Thanks for sharing. I opened a few of these and read the reviews of the articles (the originals being in French). There are about 85 citations! In one, researchers concluded that a certain GM corn "disturbs numerous biological parameters" in rats, including liver and kidney funtions, triglyceride levels and so on. In another, researchers found a correlation between introduction of a certain GM soy product and an increase in soy allergies in Britain. While these things are not to be dismissed outright, they are exactly the kinds of studies we need to be skeptical about. – wjones3044 Apr 7 2011 at 18:39

wjones3044 · Answer 1 · 2010-12-28 15:49:02Z UTC

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I'll take the contrarian position. I make no attempt whatsoever to avoid GMO anything. While I can't say I like the idea of genetic-modification-not-through-natural-selection, I have no evidence that it's hurting me.

Of course, I follow a paleo diet, so wheat, soy, grains, etc. are not in my diet. But that's due to allergy and health reasons, not because of GMO per se.

Do we have any research or even anecdotes that pinpoint GMO foods as having negative health effects?

answered Dec 28 2010 at 15:49

wjones3044
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thats a very head in the sand approach. What are these Lectins you speak of. I cannot see them, they must not exist! The earth is the center of the universe, can you not see it rotating around us? There is proof of the GMO modified foods affecting animals, and presumably thru these same processes potentially affecting us. – Stephen-Aegis Dec 28 2010 at 16:36

err meant to say see the sun rotating around us. in my haste to be sarcastic, i forgot to be accurate. – Stephen-Aegis Dec 28 2010 at 16:37

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In your haste to be sarcastic you're not being rational. I don't need to physically "see" my evidence but I do need evidence. – wjones3044 Dec 28 2010 at 18:26

I'm just avoiding so much already! I'm doing the best I can. I do buy organic occasionally, but not because of GMOs. – sherpamelissa Jan 16 2011 at 0:46

see added link and corresponding studies for your "evidence" – Stephen-Aegis Apr 6 2011 at 12:39

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Dr. Osborne · Answer 2 · 2010-12-28 16:36:56Z UTC

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Wjones, I have written on this topic extensively. There is definitely evidence of GMO contributing to human detriment both research based and anecdotal. Watch the video in the following link. It is great information:

http://towncenterwellness.com/announcements/genetically-modified-foods/

It has also been postulated that genetic modification of wheat has increased the prevelance of celiac disease in the general population:

http://towncenterwellness.com/blog-posts/genetic-modification-of-wheat-responsible-for-increase-in-gluten-sensitivity/

answered Dec 28 2010 at 16:36

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I will definitely check out the links. Thanks! – wjones3044 Dec 28 2010 at 18:26

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I think you need to look up what genetic modification means. The study you link too looked at wheat varieties produced with conventional breeding methods. There is not yet any genetically modified wheat in commercial production – Matt Dec 28 2010 at 18:52

Haha Dr. Osborne went paleo, awesome. Good for you Doc. = ) – justanotherhunt Feb 3 2011 at 6:53

The links don't address the whole evidence thing. I agree with many of the sentiments but it's all emotional. – wjones3044 Apr 7 2011 at 18:59

James · Answer 3 · 2010-12-27 20:29:01Z UTC

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I avoid it where I can, but it's not always labelled in the US. Is it necessarily bad for humans? I don't know, but I think it is wise to be cautious. A lot of it doesn't directly affect a paleo diet though. Most of it seems to be targetted toward agriculture (grains and the like).

I think there's a sliding scale. For example, on the low end, a lot of foods we've gotten over the years have been crossbred/crosspollinated/etc. by humans. It could be considered genetic manipulation, but it's not taking genes from animals and putting them in plants bad.

answered Dec 27 2010 at 20:29

James
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	Any feedlot meat is likely GMO and therefore affects us, unless you eat purely pastured natural and wild animals – Stephen-Aegis Dec 27 2010 at 20:31
	Breeding and pollination happen in nature, pesticides from ecoli not so much – Stephen-Aegis Dec 27 2010 at 20:32
	I agree on the feedlot meat (that's why I said directly vs indirectly). :) In re. breeding/pollination, humans have been artificially crosspollinating different plants for years to get better performing plants or more resistant plants, etc. – James Dec 27 2010 at 20:37
	im totally ok with cross pollination. ancient methods didnt splice ecoli and bacteria to produce pesticides. – Stephen-Aegis Dec 28 2010 at 16:38

bittykitty · Answer 4 · 2011-01-16 00:20:18Z UTC

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A few years back,when I first realized I was having problems with corn and wheat, I did some research on when the first GMO corn was grown in the US(1997 is the given date).Soybeans were 1996.This coincided almost perfectly with when I began to have severe joint pain issues,mood swings,random vomiting.They claim there is no GM wheat on the market yet,but I don't buy it.

answered Jan 16 2011 at 0:20

bittykitty
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not sure our wheat is technically GM, but its so fricken inbred, mutant selected high gluten dwarf garbage, that it might as well be GMO. kinda like Chihuahua's... worthless. – Stephen-Aegis Jan 16 2011 at 2:38

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I just spent an evening having someone's chihuahua sitting in my lap,staring at me.You are right,it's about as painful as being glutened. – bittykitty Jan 16 2011 at 21:54

majkinetor · Answer 5 · 2011-10-26 14:45:19Z UTC

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Totally amazing news: Obama appoints Monsanto's vice president Michael Taylor as senior adviser to the commissioner at the FDA

http://truehealthistruewealth.blogspot.com/2011/08/obama-appoints-monsanto-vice-president.html

answered Oct 26 2011 at 14:45

majkinetor

	Not surprising. Watched a documentary "The Future of Food" (on Netflix) that deals with this very issue. It's a revolving door in Washington. One Monsanto suit went back and forth between Monsanto and the EPA 3 times! – Matt Oct 26 2011 at 15:22
	I missed this thread! Aegis is so with it!! – grace Oct 26 2011 at 23:30
	maj -- The US govt is so infiltrated with corporate profiteering. GMO alfalfa!!! F*ck MonSatan, hate them. They are killing our unborn children. – grace Oct 26 2011 at 23:32
	Matt -- That movie should be required watching like Food inc and King Corn and Fathead! The reasearcher is from my alma mater College of Natural Resources at UCB. – grace Oct 26 2011 at 23:37
	Good citations here from 2000 over a decade ago of these greedy shenanigans and public deceptions: 'GMO paradise on Earth or descent into Hell' home.clara.net/heureka/gaia/genetics.htm – grace Oct 26 2011 at 23:40

oak0y · Answer 6 · 2010-12-27 21:58:17Z UTC

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here in europe, their is a good anti gmo lobby. still good free spaces for gmo free things. they try to bring it in silently.

answered Dec 27 2010 at 21:58

oak0y

Yeah, they'll keep trying to sneak it in in Europe, so you need to stay vigilant. – James Dec 27 2010 at 22:30

Evidently there are wikileaks cables that show Spain and the US conspiring to retaliate on the European countries that resist GMO. Hopefully that knowledge will keep most of your countries resistant to the gmo lobby. – frankifries Dec 28 2010 at 17:35

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yes, i just did a post about this. i'm wondering if food in Europe (or the UK, where I am) will be labeled as GMO or if it will be slipped under the rug? – Cara Jan 16 2011 at 0:56

ben61820 · Answer 7 · 2010-12-28 00:05:55Z UTC

i completely avoid GMO all the time. I was doing this before stopping grains, coming from a WAP background. Also, i spent five years in Japan where the issue of GMO regarding growing grain and particularly rice is loud. Regarding soy there, too. In fact, non-GMO labeling on miso, natto, etc is really loud and proud. A lot of my european friends are generally more aware and wary of GMO. I think its an issue that is not heard enough here in the US, even in nutritionally-aware circles like ours here.

ps: Carl Lanore's radio show touches on GMO quite a bit.

Do you actively avoid GMO food?

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