I know we have had several questions / topics about no shampoo/ no soap / no deodorant but i wanted to broach it agin to see how folks were progressing.
Anyone given up and gone back to conventional chemicals? For you die hards, Any tips or ticks for no 'poo, deodorant, soap?
Personally, I have settled on minimal soap (only on pits/groin), NO shampoo, NO deodorant.
BUT ... I'm having some probs. Perhaps the Paleo community can help me?!
The minimal soap thing is a breeze. I use plain ivory on my pits and groin. No prob. (I bathe every 3-4 days).
I WAS having a prob w/ my hair then I discoverd 'washing' with egg and rinsing w' vinegar. My hair is soft and glossy! Yow!
The no deodorant thing is a distinct prob - I WAS shaving and got this irritartion in my pits. i tried not shaving (which i LOVE) but the irritartion isn't going away! It;s only in myleft pit ... it looks like YEAST?! Why would I have candida?! My hubs is a type 1 diabetic so he harbours yeast but STILL!
I replaced body soap/deodorant/lotion with coconut oil about 6 months ago, and find it very effective for staying clean and odor-free - even during hot San Antonio summers. It's supposed to have great anti-fungal/anti-bacterial/anti-viral properties (which I suppose is why it works so well as deodorant), so I would definitely give it a try on your rash.
I'm new to going poo-free, though. I'm on day seven without shampoo, and up until yesterday, things had been tolerable. A bit greasy with daily baking soda/vinegar "washes," but tolerable. Last night though, my hair felt like I had poured candle wax in it - I literally could not drag my fingers through it. :p Every time a gust of wind blew it, it stuck in that position. Ew!! I really didn't want to throw in the towel after I've come this far, but there was NO WAY I was going to work looking like that. :(
I did more research about what others - women, specifically - are doing, since I doubt this icky, waxy stage would be much of a problem if my hair was less than an inch long like my husband's (who successfully went poo-free over three months ago). Definitely a mixed bag of experiences, and it seems like it may have something to do with how often you used to wash. In the last few years, I'd cut back from washing every single day to every other day; but by the morning of day three, I'd have to wash, thanks to excessive oil. So I guess my scalp's oil glands were used to being stripped fairly often.
Quite a few people suggested doing the "conditioner only" (CO) method while you're adjusting. Apparently, they contain very small amounts of surfactants, so they will get rid of some of the oil without stripping your hair and scalp. I've heard of girls with super coarse, curly hair doing this, but it never occurred to me that it could work for fine, straight hair like mine. It seemed to me that conditioner would be counter-productive, since it's just more oil... but I was kind of desperate and I tried it this morning. SO much better!! The trick is to wet your hair and distribute the conditioner as soon as you get in the shower. Massage it into the scalp really, really well, using your fingertips. Go about your other cleaning rituals, and don't wash off the conditioner until you're ready to get out, so it has a bit of time to sit on your scalp. Rinse really, really well, with more scalp massaging. You also have to make sure the conditioner is silicone-free, so there's no possibility of build-up.
So today, my hair is by no means free of oil - it's still heavier than I'm used to dealing with, but I don't think anyone but myself could tell that I haven't shampooed since last Tuesday. I'm starting to think that the squeaky clean, light-as-air hair I'm used to is not natural at all, since that implies that it's also completely devoid of all natural oils. I hope I can eventually get off commercial conditioner too, but for now, this should make the transition bearable. I'm going to give the egg "wash" you mentioned a try sometime soon - that would definitely be preferable to commercial conditioner, if it works for me.
This experiment has also inspired me to weed through my facial cleansers - turns out there were a lot of sodium sulfate ingredients in there - a harsh detergent also used in dish soap. :( I tend to wash my face 2-3 times a day because (wait for it...) I get too oily! Hmmmm... I'm tempted to try washing with an oil/grain combo (like coconut oil and corn meal or something) and see what happens.
This stuff really opens your mind to a whole new way of thinking and questioning modern "innovations." I'm starting to think that word is just defined as "ways to make money."
My bathroom arsenal has gotten so small, I love it.
I do not wash my hair at all anymore. I first did the baking soda and vinegar thing, but then wanted to be more minimal. so i bought a bore bristle brush and stopped washing with anything but water. I just give it a good scrub. Now that it is warmer, I do get abit more oil build up.. so occasionally i just rub my bar of soap around on my head and it takes care of it. I have very long dark hair.
I only wash the pits/privates with tea tree oil castile soap - if I use any other the pits smell.
And I make a little mix for my deo, it is in a old roll on deo bottle. It has 1 spoon baking soda, then i fill it half with coconut oil and the other half with witch hazel + a few drops tea tree oil. I live in Norway, so my coconut oil is always hard. So i just have a small mug in the bathroom that i fill with hot water, then drop the deo bottle in for a few to melt it down. Come back in 5 and it works wonders!
I love not having to rely on lots of products, especially as a girl. Castile Soap, Coconut oil, baking soda, witch hazel and some essential oils!
[also want to add, I only use non-glycerin soap as toothpaste! It works so great! i wrote a post about it here if anyone is interested in how it works.. ]
From experience this sounds just like a fungus (yeast is a fungus). Coconut oil should help with this. I moisten my pits with coconut oil every morning and then liberally apply baking soda. Some people make a mix, but I find that to be to much work.
I've switched to a "crystal" deodorant, and love it. No smell, and my skin is very happy with me. I still sweat, but there's no odor. I only use soap on my hands on a regular basis, and my feet if they get dirty. Since switching deodorants, I haven't needed more than water for the pits. I'm still struggling with my hair a bit, but it is improving.
Have you tried using real handmade soap?
All the crap you find at conventional stores is, well, just that - chemical-laden crap.
Rea soap is made via a chemical reaction between water, lye, and fats and oils through saponification. There is a big difference between the "beauty bars" and real soap. One big difference being they don't dry your skin out. Others have said skin conditions have cleared up, acne has gone away, etc.
Obviously, I'm a big lover of real soap! I order real handmade soap through a few places online, but mostly through sellers I've bought from before on etsy.
I gave up deodorant and just spray on some apple cider vinegar/water in a spray bottle. Works great, I haven't used conventional deodorant since November (and I do Crossfit and run, so I sweat a lot, and I have a toddler, so I can't shower every day). I use tea tree castille soap for washing my body, but have been using an annoying "all-natural" shampoo bar that kind of sucks. You've inspired me, I'm going to try the egg-vinegar!
Just started the no-poo thing a few days ago. No noticeable difference other than I need less pomade to get the style I like. My hair tends to be very oily but to my surprise it's not any worse than normal. Maybe it'll get better.
Also trying the no-deodorant thing again. Last time I was fine for a few days then BLAM it was like I'd rubbed half an onion under my arms like the Grinch. Phewgh. So far so good, though.
I use Trader Joe's tea tree soap.
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