I bought some organic EVCO to try it out. Tastes pretty good, even plain. I was toying with the idea of buying in bulk (the only way to make it reasonably affordable) so I can cut back on the industrial butter, but now I'm hesitant.
I had been having small amounts (1tsp-2tbsp over the day) for about a week and was feeling brave, so I made some chocolate with about 4tbsp (~450kcal) and had it all at once before bed. Unfortunately I awakened 2 hours later violently ill. That's rare for me (hasn't happened since too much EtOH back in high school) so it was a surprise. It had to be the oil... I've never had a problem with cocoa before.
My metabolism is fat adapted: I can eat 3/4 a stick of butter (~600kcal) or a cup of heavy cream (~400kcal) on an empty stomach easily without getting ill. (Coconut oil has a lot of MCTs, though, so it is not necessarily digested like the saturated milk fats which are mostly longer-chain. I suppose that could be the problem.)
Any heavy coconut oil users out there? Has anyone who eats mostly fat had a similar reaction to coconut oil? Did your ability to tolerate it increase with time or is it just unwise to consume so much at once?
It took me a while to be able to tolerate large amounts of coconut products, particularly cream and oil. Even now I try not to have too much of either at once, because it seems to overload my stomach. I find coconut oil ramps up my metabolism beyond belief - I glow with heat if I have more than a tablespoonful or so. Before going primal, coconut wasn't part of my diet at all.
I bet I could improve my tolerance if I went about it gradually, so if you want to be able to down large amounts at once, I would take it slow. However, in normal cooking, I'd rarely use more than 2T per serving, and I rarely have any digestive problems when consuming coconut oil combined with other foods.
Perhaps my experience is related, perhaps not--I don't have nausea but I do seem to have absolutely horrible heartburn with any coconut products--oil, flour, butter, etc. It doesn't seem to matter if I consume a little bit of a coconut product or a lot of it--same result.
The brand makes a difference, at least in my case.
I can eat very large amounts (12 tablespoons a day) of Tree of Life organic expeller pressed coconut oil and feel perfectly fine.
But a much smaller amount of Spectrum organic expeller pressed coconut oil makes me nauseous for hours.
The second brand has a much stronger coconut smell, indicating that the second brand contains one or more substances that have been removed from the first brand. Most likely, the thing that makes me nauseous is one of those substances. It's not the fat. Both brands contain the fat.
The original poster asked, "Did your ability to tolerate it increase with time?" My answer is no, the opposite occurred. The more Spectrum I ate, the less of it was required to make me feel sick.
I've tried Spectrum twice (two different bottles purchased more than a year apart) and the result was the same both times.
nausea from coconut oil - yes, the stuff is... nauseous indeed!
it is funny how coc.oil, as well as coconut milk, has become a 'superfood' of paleo-community - a sort of new 'paleo CW' - where 'conventional CW' urges to eat whole grains, 'paleo CW' pushes for coconuts: it's alright if someone likes the taste, but most people seem to believe that they're benefiting from eating the stuff, which is quite doubtful: i guess, by nausea body desperately tries to tell to stay away from the stuff: there may be some tribes somewhere who need it for subsistence / survival, but, in the final analysis, it's substandard
I had a little nausea at first, and I haven't thrown up since about 1983 and that was of course drink-related (gotta learn your limits somehow, though playing quarters with tequila instead of the traditional beer was probably not a good idea), but now I can chug the stuff right out of the jar if it's melty enough.
4tbsp is a lot to dump into your system at once and you probably need to acclimatize a little more.
Interesting. Here is another guy's experience (original thread):
Many people advise to start slowly, such as here: "Start slowly; giving your body a full dosage of coconut oil without allowing it to become accustomed to the oil can cause serious nausea and diarrhea." I read this advice before trying EVCO, and followed it, starting out with very small amounts and increasing gradually. I still developed the nausea as soon as the amounts creaped up beyond a very small level and it continued no matter how long I continued to take the EVCO and no matter how gradual I tried to increase the amounts. Instead of decreasing, the nausea increased over time, so that even a small amount of EVCO caused nausea, and I ended up throwing out the last jar of that stuff. EVCO turned out to be a very unpleasant product for me.
In contrast, raw tallow has never given me this side effect, no matter how much I eat of it and I didn't have to start out with small amounts to avoid nausea. I wonder what causes the difference?
So there's one that never adapted.
From the same thread:
When I first moved to the tropics, I was introduced to fresh coconut water. I liked it. I was told that lots of people can't drink it. That it causes bad diarrhea and many other problems. I drank one, two, three, four, five, six, seven in a row, no effect except a feeling of wellness. More than seven just didn't sound right to me, as each coconut had about 24 oz fluid. I drank seven coconuts every day for about a year, but little other food. I felt very well.
And that person didn't have any problems, not even at first.
Weird. I guess it depends on individual physiology. I wish there was more information about this.
When I eat coconut oil/milk with other food I have never suffered from nausea, despite consuming very large quantities on occasion.
One time I drank a can of coconut milk first thing in the morning, with no other food. That made me extremely nauseous (but no other side effects), and I never repeated the experience.
I know this thread is a little old, but I've just come across it so I thought I'd chime in. My personal experience is that I had no problem starting out with coconut oil, but at the time I had difficulty believing that fat is good for me, so I was using VERY small amounts. My energy spiked through the roof for several days. I gradually increased how much coconut oil that I used and haven't had a problem yet.
However, the first few times that I used coconut milk, I felt extremely sick to my stomach for about 3 hours after eating for the first week and a half. I was using only about 2-3 TBSP per day every day for a week (making a sort of curry). This last time that I used it I had no problems at all.
If it helps, I've heard that the recommended amount is 3-5 TBSP coconut oil per day. I'd guess that you just need to work your way up. Also, coconut oil chocolates are awesome, aren't they?
I'm sure your issue is long since resolved as you asked this in July Brandon, but something that jumped out at me in your question was that you ate all that "right before bed." I wonder if the timing had anything to do with your reaction? I've found that I can no longer have any sort of bedtime snack without feeling ill and sleeping poorly, but especially coconut products.
Maybe this is because (apparently) our bodies prefer to burn the MCTs found in coconut products rather than store them, so having them before bed is like giving your body a big burst of energy just when you should be winding it down. I once drank some coconut milk before bed and was up all night with a really sick stomach. That was the last time I did that. Now I usually just have my coconut-anything earlier in the day and if it's right before a workout? Total bonus.
On another note, I have noticed a difference depending on the brand. I'm not much a fan of Spectrum or Sunflower brands, but Nutriva is great and Tropical Traditions is great too.
my wife recently started cooking with a lot of coconut oil instead of butter, and i've noticed that i always feel nauseous after eating food cooked in coconut oil. i also get this very stuffy feeling above my nose, between my eyes, and my teeth feel kind of numb. altogether, it's quite an unpleasant feeling.
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