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From the answers that I read I have got the feeling that a large part of this paleo community is low-carb paleo, having large intakes of meat, fish and eggs plus few vegetables and almost no fruit, while the rest, like me are omnivores, eating meat, fish, eggs but also large amounts of vegetables and fruits. Am I right to think this way and how many of you belong to the low-carb or the omnivorous group?

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I'm totally omnivorous. I love meat, but I also eat the dreaded starch and enjoy fruit as much as I want. I guess I got into this early enough that my body can still tolerate starch and I don't gain weight. I think it's a different game if you start this when you are 19 vs. when you start it when you at 50 and prediabetic.

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As someone on the other end of that age scale I would agree with you. – ScottMGS Feb 4 2011 at 3:40
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I eat lamb, eggs, spinach, mushrooms, clarified butter, russet potatoes, 3 brazil nuts/d, 2 grams kelp/d, 50 g natto/d and no fruit currently. My diet is VLF(ructose) but not really low carb since I generally eat 2-3 potatoes a day. I'm of the opinion that the elimination of fructose is far more important than the reduction or elimination of carbs and the real reason that VLC and ZC work so well for fat loss is that they also happen to be VLF and ZF.

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Travis what is VLF, ZF and VLF, I am somewhat at a loss to understand it... – Philosopher Feb 1 2011 at 1:33
Very Low Fructose and Zero Fructose, as I'm using it, actually. – Travis Culp Feb 1 2011 at 1:43
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It depends what you call low carb? I try to get around 75 grams per day, so some days that is starches and some days that is fruits, once in awhile it's both. I just kind of go with I bought at the store and what I'm in the mood for. I have strawberries and blueberries on the menu tomorrow, but I probably haven't had them in a month. I would say I am a moderate carb omnivore.

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I don't think Paleo necessarily means low-carb. I partake in carbs frequently, and compared to the rest of the Paleo community, I'm probably very high-carb; however, in relation to the rest of the world, I'm also very low-carb.

I average around 150g-ish a day. I eat fruit 2-3 times a day, eat vegetables with lunch (my favorite meal of the day, with a serving each of something like broccoli, zucchini, and cauliflower) and snack on dark chocolate and nut butters for dessert. Once or twice a week or so, I crave a sweet potato or acorn squash, and enjoy it thoroughly. :)

Oh, and I also average around 100-115+ g of protein a day, and the same for fat.

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I don't know how you do it! I am at about 75 grams of carbs and 75 grams of protein and some days that is tough to figure out. – sherpamelissa Feb 1 2011 at 2:35
I'm being super dense (I blame the glutening from the other day :P) but I'm not quite sure what you mean. xD Do you mean how I eat so many carbs and protein? I usually base my meal around a protein, then ramp it up with peripherals, then flavor it with fat. :D – Kaz Feb 1 2011 at 4:54
Or do you mean ratios/increasing my protein? Sometimes I choose leaner meats and fatten them up on my own to up my protein. (Ie, a chicken boob with a dish of veggies slathered in buttery or bacon fat.) Other days, I let my tummy guide me and it picks out fattier meats (for instance, ground beast or chicken thigh with skin or something) and I can lay off on the buttery on my veggies. :) (Sorry for being a ditz! xD) – Kaz Feb 1 2011 at 5:02
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I meant I don't know how you eat so much food! I have a hard time eating up to the 1500 calories I have moved myself up to for maintenance. Maybe it's just getting used to it though, I've been eating 1200 for so long. – sherpamelissa Feb 1 2011 at 23:56
Oh, THAT. Haha. :D That's...easy? Difficult? It's hard to explain. I used to have trouble eating, but I taught myself that I can maintain on higher, so I have a sense of entitlement and eat accordingly to it. (My hunger signals are wonky, as you already know.) I guess what it comes down to is that I really, really like fat. :) – Kaz Feb 2 2011 at 4:36
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I eat lots of vegetables, especially of the starchy variety, almost every day. I love root vegetables, potatoes both sweet and white, plantains, all types of squash, salad-type veggies and sea vegetables and don't monitor my intake of them consciously, although I do go through periods where I just don't want certain ones very much. I am also pretty liberal with fruit when it is around, although more so in the summertime since I seem to have little desire for it, with the exception of an apple or a handful of berries every few weeks, when it is cold out. I feel better when I include these things in my diet than when I don't.

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It depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Some people are trying to lose weight, some are trying to gain, some need to tweek to improve exercise recovery or energy levels, etc. There is no one size fits all in paleo. It depends on your situation, your lifestyle and your epigenetics.

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I actually consider myself high-carb, in the sense that fruits and veges make up a huge percentage of my daily intake. Along with lots of meat, eggs, and other protein! But say high-carb today, and everyone thinks donuts and pasta. I am very low-Processed-carbs.

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I've been experimenting with zero-carb for the last 3 weeks (total carnivore... no plant-based carbs at all).

I'm shooting for a month of zero-carb, then I might return to eating a few veggies with dinner. I believe I have a pathogenic gut bacteria that florish in a fiber or carb rich evironment. The lower I keep my fiber and carbs, the better I seem to feel.

Here's a good link for zero-carb if you are interested... link text

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I vary from day to day, I have no weight to lose so just go with circumstance and what's in my fridge really, or what's in the reduced section at tescos :) Although I do tend to lean on the low fruit intake side of things, not for weight gain, it's just my sweet tooth seems to have vanished for things as sweet as most fruits, 85% cocoa and upwards dark chocolate however I have no problem consuming daily :D

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so what exactly is paleo? (rhetorically asked...) i know all the theories, strict definitions, deviations etc etc - in my view, omnivorous IS paleo/primal provided the carbs are low, you don't avoid the sat-fats (cordain-discrepancy noted), you don't eat grains and you adjust your hand-to-mouth habits with the extra step: hand - is this an evolutionarily positive-neutral or negative food? - mouth.

our ancestors survived. to survive they were forced to eat anything and everything when meat was not available - which must have been a survival-threatening part of the time, yes? i also think that for a much longer part of the time, goat dairy was a nutritional adjunct to many HG nomadic groups as the incidence of lactose-intolerance is in reality, pretty low (another big discussion i know).

so IMHO, the paleo diet thing is a framework that is forever being tweaked as we adopt or discard different viewpoints, analyze information and change personal preferences. Our ancestors were omnivorous within the world of available foodstuffs that they lived. we just gotta make more complicated judgments given the preponderance of food-like substance food rather than (or hopefully along with) the real, natural thing.

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Hmmm... how to answer this one? :)

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I took up eating tubers and fruit again because I ran into trouble with amenorrhea (for over a year), cold intolerance, and general craziness (binging and purging, irrationality) when I was low carb paleo for too long. I was taking in a ton of coconut oil and meat at the time, so I'm sure I had plenty of calories and ketone bodies to burn, but it wasn't enough to keep me either fertile or sane. Yes, I'm fatter than I would like to be, but it's the price I pay for the capacity to leave viable offspring. Not being batshit insane also a plus. YMMV, of course!

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Meeses thanks for sharing your story, actually you do not look fat at all! – Philosopher Feb 4 2011 at 17:44
No problem, and thanks! I would like sweet abs, but I suppose there are more important things in life. :-) – Meeses R. Feb 4 2011 at 20:47
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low-carber's are by definition also omnivorous. The question is better worded "Where are you on the low-carb vs high-carb continuum?"

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Sure but I have heard also of some zero-carb paleos – Philosopher Feb 2 2011 at 0:17
that's why I said "low-carber" ;-) – W8liftinmom Feb 3 2011 at 8:10

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