Paleo Diet and Paleolithic Diet Questions & Answers

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Avoiding alcohol totally is out of the question. It's hard to drink gluten free beer when out (not available anywhere, other than Guinness, which isn't really gluten free), so I tend to go for red wine. Which is more damaging though, red wine or gluten free beer?

P.s. I don't really have a problem with gluten anyway, I sometimes think I should just drink normal beer instead of wine, because I drink at the same pace, regardless of what I am drinking. I tend to drink around 4-5 glasses of whatever when I am out.

flag	asked Feb 4 2011 at 6:10 oliverh 1,137●6●17

	sorry, I know similar questions have already been asked. I am not up for giving barmen complex instructions for norcal margaritas for example... I just want to know about wine or beer, which are the options infront of me. Thanks – oliverh Feb 4 2011 at 6:18
	Do the bars you frequent commonly have gluten-free beer? Lucky you. – sean Feb 4 2011 at 8:03
	Well, like I say, not really, other than Guinness isn't really gluten free. I tend to drink gluten free beer when at home and wine when out. I am an expensive date :) – oliverh Feb 4 2011 at 9:15

Stephen-Aegis · Accepted Answer · 2011-02-04 12:29:37Z UTC

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1-2 drinks has Been shown to have positive effects, more is liver damaging.

Red has more antioxidants, resveratrol, etc.

Sorghum Beer is made from a gluten free grain but still contains lectins etc.

I'd shoot for Red everytime. Anyone thinking it's effeminate can go learn to suck eggs.

answered Feb 4 2011 at 12:29

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	hm, yes, thanks, problem with wine is that when I crack open a bottle, all too often a glass or two becomes a bottle. I find it easier to stop drinking beer after a few. I am in Europe, never heard of Sorghum beer. Estrella Daura and Ambar are the two beers that are available in the supermarket here. – oliverh Feb 4 2011 at 12:40
	sorghum is the type of grain most commonly used in the GF beers. not a brand name. Estrella Daura is standard Barley with gluten removed... scary to me. Greens is carried over there, its a sorghum rice blend. some of them are decent, some, not so much. – Stephen-Aegis Feb 4 2011 at 16:17
	simple solution to too much red. Drink with someone else. split the bottle with them. only buy 750ml bottles :) – Stephen-Aegis Feb 4 2011 at 16:17
	have to find someone to share a bottle with :) – oliverh Feb 4 2011 at 16:24
	You need a Vacu-vin! It's a little vaccuum sealer and special cork ($10??). Seal up the bottle after you've had your glass or two and when you go back to it, even a few days later, it still tastes the same. Great gadget! – legup Dec 14 2011 at 0:46

Jay Bell · Answer 2 · 2011-02-04 15:15:34Z UTC

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Normally when I'm at the pub, I reach for Magner's Cider or I'll do vodka/soda with lemon. At home, usually Irish Whisky, Scotch or red wine.

answered Feb 4 2011 at 15:15

Jay Bell
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Magners is too sweet I think, I haven't checked the label though – oliverh Feb 4 2011 at 16:23

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The reason I go for Magners, it's one of the very few mass-produced ciders with no added nitrates or other preservatives. – Jay Bell Feb 4 2011 at 22:01

Here's the label...but no sugar listing? Weird Nutrition Facts Serving Size: 11.2 fl oz/330mL Amount Per Serving Calories 125 Total Fat 0g, 0% (Daily Value*) Sodium 16mg, < 1% Total Carbohydrates 11g, 2% Protein 0g, 0% – Jay Bell Feb 4 2011 at 22:05

stoic · Answer 3 · 2011-02-04 10:30:42Z UTC

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I do red wine at home, and I think it's a better option, but I don't feel comfortable ordering that when at the local pub when out for pints with coworkers or friends. I don't think beer is ideal, but in limited quantities I seem to tolerate it well. Depends on the situation. You could sip on a scotch and soda if that was an option. None of this is paleo, though.

answered Feb 4 2011 at 10:30

stoic
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you don't do red wine when out because it's expensive? Or the quality can vary too much? – oliverh Feb 4 2011 at 10:55

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Low quality, and in some social circles it may seem effete – stoic Feb 4 2011 at 11:00

I ordered wine while out with beer drinking friends the other day. People know that I don't drink beer and why I choose not to. If that seems 'effete' then I feel sorry for your insecurities. Man up and drink what you want when you want it instead of worrying what other people think. Gin/vodka etc and soda with a lime is also pretty awesome though. – primaldog Feb 5 2011 at 14:54

Just remember ordering red wine is better than asking for an applletiny lol – Whirl Aug 10 at 17:48

Carly · Answer 4 · 2011-02-04 14:30:15Z UTC

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Red wine!! Everytime, just the one or maybe 2 though as since I've gone paleo my tolerance for alcohol has gone WAY down :D

answered Feb 4 2011 at 14:30

Carly
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	why would your tolerance to alcohol go down on paleo? – oliverh Feb 4 2011 at 14:36
	It's quite common actually, I believe it's because alcohol IS a poison and now my system is a lot cleaner my reaction to that poison is a lot more severe, similar reasons as to why I now experience a much stronger reaction to gluten. – Carly Feb 4 2011 at 15:33
	Google, "reduced alcohol tolerance paleo" quite a few people reporting the same. Maybe it's also to do with the fact that overall alcohol consumption has reduced as a result of living clean so your tolerance would naturally go down with less alcohol consumed overall. – Carly Feb 4 2011 at 15:41
	Alcohol in all forms is nothing more than a carbohydrate that is converted to sugar when consumed. Perhaps the paleo diet of avoiding sugars brings about an intolerance of the resulting sugar rather than an intolerance to the alcohol. I know my tolerance for sugar is way down. – Dexter Feb 4 2011 at 15:52
	I agree with you in a sense, I suppose sugar and alcohol are both poisons, and yes you are right my tolerance to sugar has gone way down too but I do stand by the fact that alcohol is particularly poisonous as you would be far more likely to die from alcohol over consumption than say Haribo overconsumption looking at it from an immeadiate and short term affect point of view. – Carly Feb 4 2011 at 16:05

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texasleah · Answer 5 · 2011-02-04 15:37:45Z UTC

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no complex instructions necessary: just order Patron silver on ice with soda and lime. The easiest drink in the world :)

As an added bonus, a female's perspective in a bar scene (where it is normal to make judgments based solely on immediate information), a male that orders a specific high-quality drink seems more unique and in some cases more sophisticated than other pack members just drinking happy hour pints. Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with happy hour pints. I am just pointing out the fact that being unique is a good thing, and as Stephen-Aegis says, who cares what the "pack" thinks?

answered Feb 4 2011 at 15:37

texasleah
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	oh, I live in Spain, really you don't want to start peeing off barmen here... in certain places maybe it's ok to order those things, but on the whole no. – oliverh Feb 4 2011 at 16:33
	You live in Spain? You lucky thing :) – Carly Feb 4 2011 at 16:42
	yep, the wine is good and cheap :) – oliverh Feb 4 2011 at 16:47
	Really? It is considered bad form to order a spirit with soda in Spain? That must suck. I don't mean to order with exacting standards and fussy directions like "2 and a half ounces of club soda with four slices of lime and Himalayan Sea Salt" like some douchebag. Just a straight up tequila and soda drink. Why would they view that as any different than say scotch and water? How strange. – texasleah Feb 4 2011 at 16:49
	i don't drink soda anyway, i ordered a Moquito without sugar once, yuck – oliverh Feb 4 2011 at 16:52

wjones3044 · Answer 6 · 2011-02-04 17:09:11Z UTC

Red wine. Hand's down. This from Anheuser-Busch, in reference to Redbridge, their gluten-free beer:

Redbridge contains 174 calories, 20 grams of carbohydrates, and 4.8% alcohol by volume per 12-ounce serving.

So you're looking at over five times the carbs in a bottle of beer versus a glass of dry wine. Personally, I don't want the extra carbs. Also, Redbridge does not replace the kinds of beers I used to enjoy (pre-celiac diagnosis). It's just not good enough. There are some good GF beers, though, that are worth it (e.g., Green's, from the UK--these are serious beers and worth pursuing if you can find them.).

Small Frog · Answer 7 · 2013-02-28 22:32:12Z UTC

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There are some really good GF beers made by Harvester Brewing in Portland OR that are showing up in WA, just talked my local pub owner into getting some.

answered Feb 28 at 22:32

Small Frog
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red wine or gluten free beer?

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