There are a lot of North American folks around. How many here are based in the British Isles?
If so are there any differences you can see about eating well in the UK? Compared to say a lot of the disscusions on here about US farming, meats, shops and foods.
View from a southern boy (Louisiana and Texas) living in London.
Positives for the UK:
Negatives for the UK:
I'm a Brit. Major differences I've perceived are:
I've never heard anyone outside the paleo circle talk about grass fed meats. I'm sure it's available, but doesn't seem as widely promoted. Same goes for raw dairy - available, but you have to dig quite hard.
Cholesterol testing and knowledge is woeful here compared to the US.
I think the supplement industry is a bit behind too. I find it hard to get many of the supplements discussed here frequently. Well - not hard to get them, but hard to get assurance of quality, which is vital when supplementing.
That's my tuppence for what it's worth
Just wanted to pass on my experiences of Paleo living in the UK. I currently live in London & at first struggled to 'hunt & gather my food', now that is sourced & I can't recommend finding your local farmers market enough. The food is of the highest quality, seasonal & mostly organic. I even get my raw organic milk from my market.
Another good information source is natural food finder. It covers a wide produce /geographical variety & is extremely useful.
Hope that helps.
Think like child, train like a beast.
I'm british, South East England and have found a farm that sells grass fed beef quite local, I'm thinking of starting a british Paleo Website actually, seems to be growing in awareness, been some good articles in the media lately. Also found a website that sells refined (not hydrogenated) coconut oil which is tasteless and SUPER cheap, usually used for soap but safe for consumption.
I live in London. I'm still relatively new to the paleo / primal way of doing things so I'm not always sure what I should be looking out for.
At the moment I just try to stick to fresh food and hope that the meat industry isn't as bad as the US.
BTW, I've just created a Paleo / Primal in London FB group so we can share info and maybe organise a meet-up. I know there is is meetups.com group but I hate using that site.
Here's the link:
I just wanted to drop in to the conversation. I'm from Florida, but living in West London for my Master's in Evolutionary Psych. I'm really new to the Paleo lifestyle--8 days into the Whole30 after a week of Sisson-styled Primal.
Grateful for the tips and comments posted on this page. I'm looking forward to getting out of the Uxbridge supermarkets and to the weekend markets for some better food choices.
Brits are ideally situated to follow a hunter-gatherer diet. According to genetic research, 80% of the genes in the UK are descended from 7 hunter-gatherer males who lived during the Ice Ages. Few UK genes descended from the first farmers of the Middle East. The UK made a late transition to agriculture and these New Stone Age foods are problematic in many ways. The diminish stature, steal minerals from bones, are lacking in essential vitamins, particularly the crucial vitamin D that easily becomes deficient in low sun light. The old Irish song with the line "the fairest of the fair" has a real point---a female with fair skin would synthesize vitamin D better when sun light is faint and heavy clothes must cover the skin; she would have the best formed skeleton and have better health as well.
The British Isles are blessed with access to sea food, something our Ice Age ancestors ate a lot of, and game, a complete source of vitamins, proteins, and healthy fats that was the primary food source for hunter-gatherers during early human evolution. Deer, antelope, wild boar, elk, aurochs and even rhinoceros and crocodiles were mainstays of the early human diet. Grass fed beef is an amazingly nutritious food and satisfying. And, the abundance of fresh vegetables and seasonal fruits is a close fit to the ideal diet.
If you eat a diet composed of these foods, you will eat fewer calories in total and expend energy more willingly. Modern grain-based foods, particularly the processed versions, require you to live in constant hunger in order to maintain body weight and composition. They overdrive the insulin pathway, which ages you prematurely and floods your body with damaging reactive oxygen products. A dose of sugar sends the sex hormone testosterone (in both females and males) crashing and makes you gain fat. Eventually, your liver becomes feminized and the body fat changes testosterone into estrogen. That is the beginning of the end of your sex life. It is not only sex drive that crashes, your passion for your loved ones and for life decline with because of many other biochemical changes that are produced by the appalling modern diet.
I'm from Canterbury. Not really knowing anything about how things are in the US, I don't have much to comment, but the main contrast I notice from the forums is how much easier everything is. As I've noted here and here, I can get everything I need from one shop (Sainsburys) pretty cheaply. Also, as far as I know, most British meat is fed mostly on grass/silage, so I've never worried about sourcing grassfed meat (though I'm pretty laissez faire about grassfed anyway).
One other thing I seem to have noticed is that far fewer people in the UK worry about or have their doctors test and worry about their cholesterol levels. Admittedly, this could just be the very biased nature of the two samples, but I know very few people who have had their cholesterol tested, let alone who know what it is and regularly check changes.
I'm english, but live in Spain.
Major differences are most of the points touched on in the film "Food INc". Our food industry is not mass produced at the same level here, fortunately. A lot of our cousins on the other side of the atlantic doing paleo, go for eating grass feed beef 7 days a week, because of it's omega 3 content. Here, I don't think we have to worry about the same issues, I prefer to vary meats too...
I think it'd be good to have a separate forum one day, I think our humor is different too :)
Edit: Sometimes I've done bootcamp training in Victoria park, London, it's a kind of paleo thing to do, really recommend it. It's free for the first few sessions: http://www.armybootcampfitness.co.uk/parks/victoria-park