Paleo Diet and Paleolithic Diet Questions & Answers

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Breakfast is offered for free at my working place. Although I'm taking breakfast at home, this is a great moment to socialize with colleagues and share experiences. The down side is they only offer bread with butter and cheese.

I've always had a huge addiction on bread and am completely cutting elsewhere, except when taking this breakfast. Do you think that I will feel significant energy improvements if I ditch these couple of bread slices daily? I can always enjoy the social part of the breakfast by just taking tea, but man, it makes it so hard to see everybody eating bread...

edited Feb 23 2011 at 14:30

asked Feb 23 2011 at 8:47

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Bread, butter and cheese = breakfast?!? Hmm... on second thought that sounds a lot like bagels and cream cheese. Better than doughnuts, I guess. – ScottMGS Feb 23 2011 at 15:55

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How bad is it? How bad is it if your an alcoholic or drug addict to just have a shot or a sniff of a line once in a while? Drugs alcohol and carbs all work in the same reward area of our brain and are acted upon by our CART enzyme system the same as well. I say what part of NO did we not get here? Just saying. – The Quilt Feb 23 2011 at 23:55

This guy ^ .... – Josh Feb 28 2011 at 14:54

Dexter · Accepted Answer · 2011-02-23 17:27:44Z UTC

This lifted from Dr Davis Heartscanblog: http://www.heartscanblog.org/2011/02/perfect-frankengrain.html

The perfect Frankengrain. Pretend I'm a mad food scientist. I'd like to create a food that: 1) Wreaks gastrointestinal havoc and cause intractable diarrhea, cramps, and anemia. 2) Kills some people who consume it after a long, painful course of illness. 3) Damages the brain and nervous system such that some people wet their pants, lose balance, and lose the ability to feel their feet and legs. 4) Brings out the mania of bipolar illness. 5) Amplifies auditory hallucinations in people with paranoid schizophrenia. 6) Makes people diabetic by increasing blood sugars. 7) Worsens arthritis, such as osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis. 8) Triggers addictive eating behavior. 9) Punishes you with a withdrawal process if you try to remove it from your diet. I will develop a strain that is exceptionally hardy and tolerates diverse conditions so that it can grow in just about any climate. It should also be an exceptionally high yield crop, so that I can sell it cheaply to the masses. Now, if my evil scheme goes as planned, I will then persuade the USDA that not only is my food harmless, but it is good for health. If they really take the bait, they might even endorse it, create a diet program around it. Dag nabit! Such a plan has already been implemented. Another evil food scientist already beat me to the punch. The food is called **wheat**.

If you want more...this a search on his blog for the term "wheat." http://www.heartscanblog.org/search/label/Wheat Be sure to read the comments sections to each posting from readers and their experience with wheat.

You can't find a more health damaging food than wheat.

Edit: And if all that is not enough, take a look at this Leaky Gut Syndrome post and the role wheat plays in auto immune diseases.
http://fitfemaleforty.com/2010/11/10/got-leaky-gut/

Wozza · Answer 2 · 2011-02-23 12:05:48Z UTC

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Just eat the cheese.

When it comes to what is and is not paleo, some are stricter than others. But when it comes to caring for your health, the very least you must do is avoid what Harris (http://paleonu.com) calls the "three neolithic agents of disease": gluten, fructose and excess linoleic acid. I believe this is the foundation of the paleo diet. We can argue about legumes, 'lean' cuts of meat, dairy, nightshades, carb counts and maybe even Rice Krispies. But when it comes down to gluten, fructose and vegetable oils - these are non-negotiable.

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answered Feb 23 2011 at 11:59

Wozza
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	i'm still trying to figure out what excess fructose is. can someone give me an idea what is considered in excess of? everyone seems so vague and don't want to put a number out there. if it is a dose-determined hepitoxin, shouldn't we know in what range the dose gets toxic? – luckybastard♦ Feb 23 2011 at 14:27
	it varies based on activity and liver depletion. if you have completely emptied your liver, you can take more than someone sedentary who converts immediately. My Understanding is some of the long term cumulative nasties like AGE production, happen regardless of quantity, if thats accurate....... – Stephen-Aegis Feb 23 2011 at 16:35
	Stephen, could you explain the 'emptying of your liver'? I'm kinda curious how to know more. Thanks! – Lauren Feb 24 2011 at 2:29

Stephen-Aegis · Answer 3 · 2011-02-23 16:40:06Z UTC

define cheese? frankencheese is no better than frankengrains. Grainfedbutter isnt optimal either... Id avoid the company meal unless its Pastured Cheese and Butter(in which case are you hiring?), and just hang out and chat with people.

Im fairly certain you can get away with being there without shoveling toxins in your pie hole. If your company mandates that you shovel toxins... look for another job.

Gluten is absolutely NOT worth it. The potential leaky gut issues, damaged villae, reduced nutrient absorption of quality food... and it can take 2 weeks to 6 months to recover depending on the individual..

Never cheat with Gluten. Shes got some nasty contagious mess.

queen of the stone age · Answer 4 · 2011-02-23 15:12:23Z UTC

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My favourite snack - cheese slathered in real butter. People do look at me as though I'm weird though.

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I just ate this. My roommate insisted on calling 911 for the heart attack I was "surely to have". – Phoenix Feb 23 2011 at 15:16

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I love meat with butter on it, but I never thought about cheese with butter on it...I'm going to have to give it a try, though. – Helen Feb 23 2011 at 15:23

Tell your roommate you'll have this same conversation when you're both 85, and perform a medication count. Long-term wheat consumption, along with SAD, will most likely net your roomie tons more meds than you at the same age! :-P – ricechek Feb 23 2011 at 16:06

Victoria · Answer 5 · 2011-02-23 09:40:59Z UTC

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Since it takes about 2 weeks for gluten to leave the body...I'd say it's totally not worth it. Maybe you should just bring your breakfast into work and eat it. Either way...it's not worth the havoc gluten does to the body.

answered Feb 23 2011 at 9:40

Victoria
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Jonesy · Answer 6 · 2011-02-23 10:25:42Z UTC

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Just eat the breakfast without the bread?

answered Feb 23 2011 at 10:25

Jonesy
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Aaahhh....simplicity, FTW! :) – ricechek Feb 23 2011 at 16:06

paleoboy · Answer 7 · 2011-02-23 11:57:35Z UTC

No, you should not eat the bread. I tried to kid myself by allowing some carbs in my diet, but then I realised I was getting too much and they were gradually creeping back in so now I only eat certain foods if I really have to or its a treat.

What I think you should do is to eat a big breakfast in the morning so you're not craving any food for a while.

Maybe try a couple of eggs and some meat as you'll need lots of protein because it suppresses hunger pangs for longer.

jamie · Answer 8 · 2011-02-23 14:17:47Z UTC

If you have to exclude anything from your paleo diet, it should most definitely be toxic grains and oils. That would be anything with gluten and any commercial veg oil. Why can't you just enjoy a cup of coffee and talk with colleagues? I do this all the time. It really is not that big of a deal to not eat the food. Or, just eat the cheese. Cheese is especially good with REAL butter slathered on it. I'd guess that the butter they are putting on that bread is not real butter, but margarine.

You do have to live in the real world, yes. However, you also have to realize that to have good health, there are choices to be made that will either support or not support good health.

Helen · Answer 9 · 2011-02-23 15:27:47Z UTC

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Skip the bread...you will thank yourself down the line.

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Helen
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Sigil · Answer 10 · 2011-02-27 06:36:24Z UTC

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Bring your own breakfast. I like to keep some leftover sausage and hardboiled eggs handy as they make a great fast breakfast.

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Sigil
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Tom R. · Answer 11 · 2011-03-12 03:16:26Z UTC

My department has "fritter Friday" and the standard for birthdays is donuts. I told them to bring the donuts for my birthday so everyone else would have what they wanted. My co-workers know I don't eat the stuff, and there's nothing awkward about visiting and sipping coffee. I do make certain I eat before I go so I don't get tempted by the sweet garbage.

How bad is it to eat two slices of bread on week days?

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