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Does anyone use Dates to sweeten semi-paleo dessert recipes? I know they have a lot of fiber -- but they also have a lot of sugar/fructose.

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I'm interested in seeing the answers here! – Thumper Feb 24 2011 at 18:31
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Fructose KABOOOM! – Stephen-Aegis Feb 24 2011 at 20:05
Depends. Alternative to what? – Ambimorph Feb 25 2011 at 0:55

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I like fresh dates when I can get them. Dried dates I usually find a bit chewy and the large medjool dates are usually too sweet for me.

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Fresh dates are sweet and moist and taste great in combination with some good Normandy camenbert.

Sure you can fear the sugar if you want. However when you reach the end of your life and look back, will your life have been better and more worthwhile for never having eaten some dates? Personally I sometimes eat food simply because it tastes awesome.

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I eat a ton of dates and still manage perfect body fat and blood sugar. I am an athlete though, and time them generally more around/during workouts.

dates+almond butter = best desert ever

also, it may be high in fructose, but at least it's a real food. For anyone who has a sweet tooth it's gotta be far better than a cooked/processed desert

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and Winstons are better than Marlboros? better doesnt make it good. sugar is better than HFCS. does that make sugar ok? Im not saying the quantity that you eat is too much, just want to make clear the point that because its better than bad, doesnt make it good. – Stephen-Aegis Feb 24 2011 at 23:36
In fairness, dates are a whole food (mostly). HFCS is not. – Grocket Nov 16 2011 at 21:18
I had bacon wrapped dates the other day, OMG So amazing. – RaiseFitness Jul 13 at 15:19
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I would completely avoid anything that is that high in fructose. It might be better to find a sweetener that is pure glucose, such as rice syrup.

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Is rice syrup the only sweetner that is pure glucose? – KL Feb 24 2011 at 19:37
Corn syrup is actually glucose syrup. HFCS are made via the use of glucose isomerase to convert glucose into the isomer fructose. Personally, I choose to avoid corn, but I suppose that organic corn syrup would be ok. – Travis Culp Feb 24 2011 at 19:39
Me too -- want to avoid all corn and rice. – KL Feb 24 2011 at 19:43
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I wouldn't worry too much about avoiding rice. Nearly all life on earth uses glucose for aerobic respiration. We don't want to become too dogmatic about "paleo" to the point that we take the paleo route instead of the optimal route. – Travis Culp Feb 24 2011 at 19:54
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I love cooked dates wrapped in bacon, not a dessert and not very paleo at all, I rarely eat this, even as a recovery food from a workout.

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I made a comment about bacon wrapped dates before I read this far down on the page. They are amazing...but not if you are striving for weightloss. – RaiseFitness Jul 13 at 15:20
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Hmm...dates seem very high in fructose. From http://www.livestrong.com:

Dates are fructose-rich foods. A type of date called medjool contains 31,954 milligrams of fructose per 3-oz. serving, according to NutritionData.com. A 3-oz. serving is the equivalent of three dates. This amount can supply up to 20 percent of your daily recommended allotment of fructose, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Deglet noor, another type of date, is also rich in fructose. A 3-oz. serving contains an impressive 19,559 milligrams of fructose.

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/35748-list-foods-fructose-content/#ixzz1Eu8ae5BN

I would use rice syrup as a sweetener. It contains no fructose. The Jaminets use it as their sweetener of choice (perfecthealthdiet.com).

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Once or twice a week I have a fruit salad: one fresh date, one fig, 5-6 fresh cranberries and something like a banana or pear. I sprinkle it with cinnamon and it's heavenly. I go out of my way to have both date and cranberry in the same spoonfuls as they are a lively sweet/sour combination.

Compared to how I ate all my life--and somehow managed to wind up healthier in my 60s than many of my friends--this is a healthy and tasty treat.

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I sometimes use them when I make coconut bars; they really help bind everything together. It works out to a little less than 1 date per bar, I don't sweat it too much since I don't eat them often.

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Ooh recipe! Please! – sherpamelissa Feb 24 2011 at 18:49
Here ya go! queen-of-the-stoneage.blogspot.com/2011/02/… I'm going to do some bar experimentation- these taste great but fall apart of not refrigerated :( – Jules K Feb 24 2011 at 19:08
I make a similar bar that I use mainly during bike rides. It seems to stay together just fine even being in my jersey pocket on 90+ degree days. It's on the top right corner... hungryforreal.net/Recipes.php – Jeff May 15 2011 at 22:52
Cool, thanks Jeff! – Jules K May 17 2011 at 12:30
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http://www.bigtreefarms.com/coconutsugar/

Coconut Palm sugar is amazing.

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i'm going to bookmark this, thanks – oliverh Feb 24 2011 at 19:29
Is this the same as coconut nectar?: paleohacks.com/questions/22444/… – Jason Feb 24 2011 at 20:50
I've used the subbrand Sweet Tree palm sugar before. It is delicious - it has a toasted coconut flavor - kind of like it's precaramelized. About 1/4 c./2 qt. ice cream yields deep flavor. What I don't understand is how it can have such a low GI and yet also be almost all sucrose. For me personally, it's a fine line to walk; I'd definitely use it over white sugar, but I haven't found any evidence of it being any less compelling (tasty) or cravings-inducing compared with refined sugars. Anybody else feel strongly one way or another about palm sugar's nutrition stats and effects on your body? – familygrokumentarian Feb 24 2011 at 23:58
I personally use the "wet" coconut palm sugars. You only need the smallest bit to sweeten anything and it's one of the few natural sweeteners that doesn't cause me to crash in any way. Plus it's full of minerals. 4.bp.blogspot.com/_fgQOyoi34Q4/ST3RzI0w59I/… – Lindsay Feb 25 2011 at 16:34
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Dates actually have higher glocose than fructose, hence the high glycemic index. It changes if you ad protein, fibre or fat though. You also cannot compare dates to a high fructose processed syrup. Too much fat slows insulin response. Over consumption of processed suger will burn out your pancreas. If you eat whole fruits and veggies, lean proteins, and healthy fatty acids even whole grains, beans and legumes. You will not get type 2 diabeties or be obese.

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Sugar bomb and 100% paleo.

Paleo is not by definition a low carb diet. There were plenty of foods (like dates) that were available to paleo man that was high in sugar. But, (unlike today) they were not as common--seasonal or regional foods.

If your goal is to lose weight, then you have to be aware of the glycemic load of servings of various foods.

If your goal is to be healthier by eating paleo (and cutting out the junk), then I wouldn't worry about it. Just remember that fruit was a side item for paleo man, not the basis of their diet.

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Anything high in fructose is better for you than high glucose foods. When you eat things high in glucose you cause a spike in your blood sugar that initiates an insulin response. When you are constantly spiking your blood sugar you lose your insulin sensitivity and can develop insulin insensitivity which can lead to type 2 diabetes. The reason Live Strong and other websites tell you to stay away from fructose containing foods is to recharge your glucose stores after you workout. Glucose is the major form of energy for your brain and your body. Simple sugars are good for after a workout, but if you live a sedentary lifestyle or don't really workout for more than an hour you don't need to have that much simple sugar=glucose. You would be better off eating fructose than glucose-ask the diabetics. Also date sugar is just crushed up dates-a whole food rather than a refined sweetener like all the rest. Here's a good little video that explains which sweetener is nutritionally superior:

http://nutritionfacts.org/videos/the-healthiest-sweetener/

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Oh man is this post ever wrong. The metabolism of excessive fructose leads to elevated uric acid, which results in decreased endothelial nitric oxide concentrations and insulin resistance. Simply eating glucose over and over does not cause diabetes. – Travis Culp Nov 16 2011 at 21:17
I also have to agree that it is mis-information at best, and wrong info at worst. Depending on the person, more glucose could be better than fructose, but a blanket statement is incorrect. For someone with NAFLD, glucose could be better. – RaiseFitness Jul 13 at 15:23
Fructose contributes to Cirrhosis of the liver because (like alcohol) it must be metabolized by the liver. And, the process the liver uses to metabolize fructose is almost identical to the process it uses to metabolize fructose. Like alcohol, fructose in small or medium amounts doesn't cause most people any problems. It's only when you consume large quantities that it becomes a problem--which would happen if you decided to make it your primary sweetener for everything. – Talldog Jul 13 at 16:07

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