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Hi all. I have some question about Vinegar. (1) does it cause deterioration of the joints? (2) why is white vinegar frowned upon by many and applpe cider vinegar touted by others? (3) Does it contain fructose? (4) Is it insulinergic? (5) How much can one consume for detox/blood alkalizing purposes? (6) Does it increase energy?

Does anyone have anything they'd care to add re: vinegar?

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Up Jack got and home did trot As fast as he could caper; And went to bed to mend his head With vinegar and brown paper – DudleyP Mar 9 2011 at 17:04
Historically vinegar and brown paper poultices were used for fractures, so at least externally it appears to be beneficial – DudleyP Mar 12 2011 at 17:08

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(1) does it cause deterioration of the joints?

I doubt it. Not unless you inject it directly into your joints.

(2) why is white vinegar frowned upon by many and applpe cider vinegar touted by others?

People belive all kinds of strange things about "natural" remedies.

(3) Does it contain fructose?

The sugar is converted into acetic acid to make it into vinegar, so no. Any fructose left will be in trace amounts. Traditional balsamic vinegar is an execption as it still contains sugar, cheap versions have sugar added to it.

(4) Is it insulinergic?

No.

(5) How much can one consume for detox/blood alkalizing purposes?

Vinegar won't detox you or alkalize your blood.

(6) Does it increase energy?

I doubt it.

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I know that even on paleo/no soap/no shampoo I still had some pretty rough dandruff/dry scalp issues.

Washing my hair and beard with apple cider vinegar killed the dandruff, literally in one washing... plus it makes your hair look great.

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How much are you using for this? Is it just a splash in the palm of your hand and then rub through. I have issues with dandruff which, funnily enough are getting better since I stopped using anti-dandruff shampoo. How does the ACV work to alleviate dandruff?? – Jay Killeen Oct 25 at 22:21
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Vinegar does not cause deterioration of the joints.

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Thanks for the valuable info. But would you care to verify with some sound argumentation? I need convincing as I would like to increase vinegar in the diet but am paranoid about any possible osteopenia/deterioration of joints consequences. ALso, I am paranoid about its potentially containing fructose and causing glycation. I have stuck with the fruit/nut vinegars believing the grain vinegars like Heinz's white vinegar or rice vinegars to be a problem owing to lectins. Would these be viable alternatives? – PersonMan Mar 10 2011 at 22:07
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I didn't find info on all of your questions, but you can look around these sites.

These links will help:

http://bodyecology.com/articles/apple_cider_vinegar.php

http://www.apple-cider-vinegar-benefits.com/index.html

I was not able to find a clear discussion of why steer away from white vinegar and toward raw apple cider vinegar...but in a lot of the information, white vinegar is used a cleanser and as a cheap form of vinegar. ...raw apple cider vinegar is probioitc...so it does more than just 'cleaning' it also rejuvinates.

...if you are taking this for acid reflux on a regular basis...then this tells you something else is the issue and should be dealt with more directly versus symptoms...also with using it for dandruff, ect (which I have). that is, this can be used to address symptoms and deal with issues on a certain level, and so valuable to keep around. but if this is being used on a regular basis...then a better look under the 'hood' may be in order and address the issues at a more systemic level.

also, in general, having some rotating fermented foods seems to be an adaptive approach (and in some ways a paleo perspective)...just rotate them. ...sauerkraut has cabbage and can be estrogenic, miso - the same, etc. ...but also good to rotate because there are different biotic strands...and roughly 80% of immune system is in gut (also where most of seretonin is made...but us moderns tend to have too much seretonin or are resistent...read Lights Out)...and there is more neurons in our gut than head...so 'the first or second brain' thing.

hope this helps

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White vinegar is made with wheat, which is why it is frowned upon and why many with gluten issues must stay away from it. I've switched from using White vinegar to ACV in my cooking and it is an incredible difference in how my GI responds, but then again I'm sensitive to wheat products. – Marie Mar 25 2011 at 14:56

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