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Hey all, I need some assistance in erasing this last nagging health problem I've been having for years. Over time I've found this place to be a better source for health advice then any doctor I've ever been to, so here goes..

Background Info 100% Paleo (Medium carb. I take some (sweet) peeled potatoes/parnsips/pumpkin daily). 24yo. Diagnosed with dustmite fever around age 16. No dairy (except grassfed pastured butter), no grains, no legumes. Only nuts are macademia. 90% of meat is grassfed. Supplementing with 6000 IU Vit D. 1-2 grams fish oil a day, some vitamin C, NOW Foods Super Enzymes. I use Pink Himalayan Salt as my salt source.

Problem I have like a chronic cold/running nose/congestion (both nostrils). I wake up every morning with a lot of congestion, and even after clearing all the stuff out it still comes back the rest of the day. It alters my voice in a negative way and I run out of breath faster during sports. It also causes bloody noses more often than not. Doctors have described the problems as oversensitive glands in the nose (don't know if I'm translating this correctly) and dustmite allergy.

What I've tried I've tried an arrangement of prescribed/over-the-counter traditional medicine stuff (pills and some nasal sprays). None of which has helped me. I also have allergen-free sheet and pillow covers.

The problem is all these things are trying to fix a symptom. I'm interested in fixing the cure of my chronic nasal congestion.

I've read some other stuff about this (http://paleohacks.com/questions/5258/intermittent-diziness-vertigo#axzz1G8nEA5de) and I might try the NeilMed (if I can locate a company that ships to the Netherlands at a reasonable price) along with some sort of xylitol nasal spray.

Before I try that approach, has any of you smart minds got any other suggestions?

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I would try sleeping with a painter's mask for a week...if you can sleep on your back....so you can eliminate environmental allergens in your surroundings as being the problem.

From what you have described, it sounds like your body is trying to get rid of some toxin(s) you have in your body through the mucous.

Since you have had this condition for a long time, you need to examine your life since you first started to experience these nasal problems and see if there is something that you are doing now that you have always done since you were 16. It sounds like you have been exposing yourself to something every day since age 16.

It might be a favorite food...perhaps something that is unique to the Netherlands. Perhaps clothes made of some fibre that you have always worn. Perhaps a dye in the clothes. It may be a reaction to wearing rings. Maybe a unique type of soap you have always used. Perhaps stop using soap and go shampooless and maybe use only baking soda to keep your body and hair clean for a while. Perhaps it could be a particular deodorant. Or a toothpaste. Perhaps your body doesn't like nightshades. If you have had fillings for cavities that are amalgum loaded with mercury as Caitlin mentioned and you had your fillings started at around age 16...that might be the problem.

I would also fast for 40 hours...Eat dinner at 6pm, then no food the next day and night and no breakfast the next day. First meal would be a noon after no breakfast. If it is a food allergy, you may know after the 40 hour fast. Use only water to keep the hunger away.

Your body may not like the water you have been drinking since age 16. Try purified water or distilled water for a week to see if there is any change. You may be allergic to chlorine they put in the water.

Examine everything you come in contact with on a daily basis. The body doesn't throw out mucous from an orifice for no reason. Mucous is carrying out something in your body that it doesn't like.

Good luck in your search.

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Thanks for the great response. When I was 14/15 I was diagnosed with IBS (those were some pretty bad times). It's cured now though. Tried eliminating dairy, shampoo, deodorant, toothpaste. Nightshades might be worth trying (but giving up eggs is hard dude!). No cavities. Fasting for 40hours might be a bit extreme for me ATM. Might give it a shot in the future. The painter's mask is a great idea. Will buy one tomorrow! – Tom Mar 10 2011 at 19:32
I would also add, supplement with Vit D3 as it does increase your immune system. 5000IU to 10000IU daily. Dr K wants his patients to have serum Vit D3 at 70 to 100 nanograms/milliliter. Don't forget the distilled water for a week. It appears your water may be the common denominator throughout your life. – Dexter Mar 11 2011 at 0:44
thanks, will try it out! (already supping with 6000IU of Vit D (good source) – Tom Mar 11 2011 at 12:25
Tom, did you eventually find out something that worked? – hhsuey Oct 19 at 4:50
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Tom - do NOT make your bed early in the morning - the sheets and pillow cases will be slight moist, if not damp. Dust mites thrive in warm, damp conditions. So, if you make the bed before it has aired out, and DRIED out, you will be making a nice comfortable home for the dust mites to multiple and thrive in.

I have not made my bed for several years, and it helps a lot. I also use a variation of a neti pot, and it also helps a lot.

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I don't have to make the bed in the morning?--That's fantastic news! – Ed Mar 9 2011 at 23:40
Yes, for HEALTH reasons -I loved it when I first heard about it, and I still do. – terrence Mar 9 2011 at 23:48
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Hey man, I'm a lazy guy so I never make my bed ;) thanks for the advice though! – Tom Mar 10 2011 at 19:38
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Check out the comment about 'oil pulling' in this thread:

http://paleohacks.com/questions/17005/chronic-nasal-congestion#axzz1G4hrHLKS

I used to have the same issues as you but paleo has cleared most of it up. On the odd occasion that I do have a sinus attack, the oil pulling works amazingly.. within minutes I can feel my nose start to clear. Might be worth a shot.

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Yes, that thread is good, there are some other good ideas in there also, or at least more perspective on the matter for the OP. – Paul Mar 10 2011 at 0:02
did oil pulling once, got really sick for a week. A bit hesitant to try it again now. Besides the lack of scientific evidence there's also a lack of 'reliable' anecdotical evidence. – Tom Mar 10 2011 at 19:33
Yeah fair enough mate. Maybe it's a placebo type thing for me. – bft Mar 10 2011 at 21:06
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Interesting suggestion above about not making the bed and letting it dry out.

It is critical to wash sheets and bed linens in the hottest water possible. Many people turn their hot water heaters down to avoid scalding themselves or their children - but that is the temperature (~ 140 F IIRC) needed to kill off the dust mites.

That said, I have found a paleo diet to significantly reduce my own dustmite and hayfever allergies. Have you had any blood tests related to autoimmune factors (e.g. thyroglobin AB or thyroid peroxiid AB)

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havenn't had any tests. Could it be something as serious as a autoimmune disease? – Tom Mar 10 2011 at 19:33
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Neti pot helps me a lot when I have nasal congestion. Maybe try some sort of air purifier/ionizer in your bedroom? Also, perhaps try cutting out butter for a few weeks, for the small chance that you could be reacting to the very trace amounts of milk solids.

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thansk for the response. did cut out butter for a couple of months some time ago, didn't help. – Tom Mar 9 2011 at 22:38
Net pot helps, just don't use it for too long. See webmd.com/allergies/news/20091109/… – Arthur Apr 7 2011 at 10:27
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Do you have carpet? If so, remove every stitch of it. Seriously

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thanks for the response, but no carpet is a big NONO. So are huge fluffy pillows, etc ;) There is actually some dust lying around here, but if I'm correct dustmites don't actually live in the dust itself, so that shouldn't be the problem. – Tom Mar 9 2011 at 22:36
no i think they live off human skin which is what comprises most of dust. – paleoprimal Mar 10 2011 at 0:57
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What environment and climate do dust mites thrive in? Dust mites thrive in an area where it's about 77 degrees fahrenheit, and the relative humidity is 75 percent. Their ideal choice for a habitat are fully-carpeted rooms. What are dust mites? Dust mites are tiny arachnids that feed mostly on dead skin cells. Dust mites must also be viewed under a microscope because they're too small to be seen with the naked eye. dust-mites.org/faq.php I was just trying to back up what I said with more info and source. Hope you get better soon! – paleoprimal Mar 10 2011 at 1:40
(i meant to say that 'a' carpet is a big nono. Are you sure that most of the grey dust on the floors is human skin? Because if so, 1) i produce a lot of skin, 2) i think most of it is sand, etc.. – Tom Mar 10 2011 at 19:35
Dust will comprise the same basic ingrediends plus additional things based on where you live...if you have alot sand carried in the house or blowing through windows then yes, thre would be more sand. I couldnt quickly find a percentage of what the average dust holds of skin, but i am not sure they could do that anyway since dust mites eat it... We have dust and allergies and use air filters in our bedrooms but no where else unless we are specifically having bad asthma issues. – paleoprimal Mar 11 2011 at 14:42
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I might go back to a doctor and see if you can check the diagnosis. Sounds like you've had some major changes in diet since you were 14, so there could be a change in your allergy profile since then too. I may try a naturopath too, just to see what they think.

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Aren't aware of any naturopaths. I've been searching but haven't found anyone yet. I started suffering from IBS when I was 14. – Tom Mar 10 2011 at 19:38
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Are you 100% gluten free? What about mercury in your mouth? Also have you tried cutting dairy completely for a while? Also limiting your exposure to home toxins like cleaners?

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yes. mercury in my mouth, how do you mean? yes. cleaners? – Tom Mar 10 2011 at 19:39
Tom: mercury in your mouth can be found in some [dental fillings](en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalgam_%28dentistry%29). – Arthur Apr 7 2011 at 10:34
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Quercetin will cut it down tremendously. If you take a digestive enzyme (helps body absorb quercetin) Id take the following with it at meal times.

http://www.vitacost.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Quercetin-500/?pd_section=pr#ProductReviews

If you want to spend a bit more and/or do not take a digestive enzyme Id take the following on an empty stomach.

http://www.vitacost.com/Source-Naturals-Activated-Quercetin-Bioflavoniod-Complex/?pd_section=pr#ProductReviews

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Is there any evidence to back this up (even anecdotical)? I'm not doubting you but if I would've bought every supplement someone has ever suggested to me because of some kind of health problem I would be broke! – Tom Mar 10 2011 at 19:44
I've ordered it. Fingers crossed. One last question: Is this something you take your entire life or can I stop taking it when my problems disappear? (ie. does it treat the symptoms or the cause ;) ) – Tom Mar 10 2011 at 19:59
I use it. It has not gotten rid of my congestion 100% but I went from mouth breathing to having at least one nostril clear at all times and hence am no longer a mouth breather. My step-dad has used it for the last 6 months and said this year is the first year in over a decade that he hasnt had to have an allergy shot. It takes a bit to work so give it at least a month. – Geoff Mar 10 2011 at 21:21
I think it is something you take long term but it is just comes from fruits and plants. Your body does seem to get stronger on it long term though. It also helps bring down inflammation throughout the body so Im guessing it may help with longevity and I know it helps with back aches. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quercetin – Geoff Mar 10 2011 at 21:23
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Update: Tried this for a good while, didn't work for me. – Tom Dec 27 2011 at 19:39
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I cleaned out a very filthy filter in my air conditioner and it made a clear, immediate difference. Also, in some countries it's standard to put the pillows and bedding out on a window ledge to air in the sun. Apparently, dust mites don't like sun.

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I've switched places 4 times during the last 2 years so I doubt it's a filter problem ;) – Tom Mar 10 2011 at 19:41
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Try to have someone clean out everything in your room. You don't know it but there might be many allergens that you just don't see. I hope you feel better soon.

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Hi Tom, I live in Groningen, and every year I get bad nasal allergies like you mentioned, starting in around March and lasting until about November. But this year I cut out eggs (and I am dairy free except for butter), and that made a big difference.

This year (without eggs) was a very "good" year for my allergies, and I got by without taking any medicine except "Livocab Oogdruppelen" sometimes when it was a very bad day. (My main allergy/hooikoorts is ragweed and tree pollen, so some days are worse than others.

So, if you haven't tried removing eggs, give it a try.

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cool. can't afford to eat paleo without eggs since i'm a student on a budget ;) but might give it a go when money allows me. – Tom Dec 27 2011 at 19:45
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Have you done some experiment of sleeping somewhere where the environment is sure to be free of mites? I.e. buying a cheap, but new sleeping bag(ideally washable at 60C, washed before use) or going to sleep in a tent for a night or two, taking a holiday someplace that is above crucial elevation or dryness levels for mites and comparing? (Also from what I gather mites hate / can't live in leather, so maybe a medieval sleepover re-enactment of clad in leather, sleeping in leather may be an idea).

What I am driving at is that you may have to figure out whether your body is still suffering from an allergic "memory" in part, and maybe has also a psychological component to your allergy, or what.

One thing worth trying is hypersensibilization therapy, by which you gradually get injected (or tongue drops) with the allergen in question over time. Helped a lot for a lot of people, but requires observation, time and strictest schedule.

I have dust mite allergy and slight psoriasis myself, but it got a bit better with Paleo.

I have a firm working theory that my reactions are strongly linked to my psychological well-being and stress levels, so it might very much be worth looking into meditation, de-stressing, autogenic training, yoga and other venues of stress relief.

That's the point of the "isolation" idea at the start of my post: if its more your psyche and leftover system response in your body, you can wash, encase and vacuum all you want, its sitting more in you than in your bed or room.

Just a thought / angle. I know the question is ancient, but I've seen it come up a bit and it might help others, too.

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