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My therapist believes I suffer from adult ADHD and it is something I suspected I had for quite some time way before I started paleo, however, I am pretty much against taking prescriptions drugs unless I absolutely have too. Are there any paleo or natural remedies for this condition?

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Stay away from wheat/gluten and gluten-like substances. – Patrik Mar 20 2011 at 4:09
Also check out on how diary, sweet things (surga, fruits, etc.), coffee and other simulators affects you – Lemon Mar 20 2011 at 12:07
Patrik nailed it with the gluten thing, it actually reduces blood flow to the part of the brain that controls focus. – Happy Now Sep 19 2011 at 20:22
Happy Now: that's interesting, I've never heard that before, any chance you have a link or reference? – Eric S Sep 20 2011 at 5:16
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"Exposure to gluten in a sensitive individual essentially shuts down blood flow to the prefrontal cortex—the part of our brains that allow us to focus, manage emotional states, plan and organize and exercise our short term memory. The prefrontal cortex is our brain’s “executive function” control center and is the part of our brain that basically makes us the most human." primalbody-primalmind.com/?p=805 – Happy Now Sep 20 2011 at 6:42
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I think the major issues with ADHD and paleo is that there is nothing wrong with people with ADHD. In the Paleolithic, we would have been highly successful, but in the modern world we have to focus on monotonous tasks for hours and hours on end. I'm not sure paleo helps that much with ADHD. I still have it and I know plenty of others who do as well. Every single person in my immediate family has been diagnosed with ADHD. I've often felt depressed because nobody holds a normal job, but then I realize that you can be quite successful with a strange career and I've shifted my own track towards that. However, I realize that's quite a luxury.

I've come up with things to manage it, but they are a struggle for someone to ADHD to follow because they require a level of strictness that doesn't exactly come naturally to me. Forbidding myself from any electronic device from 9 PM onward works really well for example, but I can count on two hands the number of days I've been able to do that. Heavy morning exercise definitely helps as well, but I also struggle to maintain that routine.

We are the remnants of a hunting mind in an age of farming. I find that hunting also helps me control my ADHD and my family is full of great hunters. Being in the woods, being alert for deer but not overstimulated...that's medicine right there.

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Yes, if we could maintain a routine, there wouldn't be a problem in the first place! I don't know how many times people have told me, "Make a list of what you want to get done," or, "get a planner...." Gosh, never thought of that! – Aaron B. Sep 19 2011 at 16:57
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I've thought seriously about hiring someone to call me up and yell at me for not doing things...haha – Bread-Eating Beelzebub Sep 19 2011 at 17:42
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Apparently the kicker with ADHD is that the more effort you apply trying to focus and plan on the things you are "supposed" to be doing rather than the things you are interested in, the more that part of the brain that controls you ability to do those things refuses to work. A trick I use is to try and keep things as novel and varied as possible. ADHD folks can have laser-like focus as long as it is something that gets them fired up. I think each diagnosis should come with a prescription for a personal assistant. – Happy Now Sep 19 2011 at 20:36
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I agree with Melissa 100%. I've also been diagnosed with ADD as has my dad and brother. We all notice things other people don't and are very aware of our environment. It's just that in the modern world we get overwhelmed with stimulus and options. – Geoff Sep 20 2011 at 1:46
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Like Happy Now said, if something really grabs my attention, then I can bring all my resources to bear on it, and it's a powerful thing. Unfortunately, that can be good, as when it's a web server that crashed at 3am and they need it up ASAP, or it can be bad, like a failed romance that suddenly seems like the most important thing ever. It's kind of like having several different brains, all multitasking on different things and having to take turns using the common resources. If you can get them all trained on the same topic, look out. – Aaron B. Sep 20 2011 at 12:24
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Anecdotally, my ADD tendencies seem to normalize when I go low carb (30g or lower)

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I've noticed that too – Aughra Sep 19 2011 at 23:06
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Emily Deans of Evolutionary Psychiatry has some articles devoted to this. You can find the links at this site map

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ADHD is complex but one major common tie in those patients is they have high cortisol levels, bad sleep and a permeable gut. I generally go after that leaky gut hard with diet.....especially raising coconut oils and colostrum and smart exercise protocols. We also advocate using light modulation in tougher cases.

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None of these things apply to me, but I don't have ADHD. ADD can be a very different animal. Light modulation could be helpful for me... I sleep like a log, but have no natural wake cycle ATM (will go 10 hours if my boyfriend doesn't get me up, then feel hung over all day). – animalcule Mar 20 2011 at 3:54
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How might one raise colostrum? What is the range of appropriate 'doses' of coconut oil in this context? And what counts a smart exercise protocol here? I understand that it will vary across individuals. But perhaps you can provide some rough guidelines. This would make a great - and much appreciated - blog post! – Eric S Sep 20 2011 at 5:33
Eric - You have to pay Quilt for that. Sorry. – Satchmo Apr 20 2012 at 2:19
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In a somewhat ironic twist, when I go off all stimulants (especially caffeine) I find my ADD symptom are significantly alleviated. That said, Adderall is a pretty fantastic drug that literally saves lives. In particular, my brother was so unable to control his life due to severe ADHD: could hold a job, couldn't finish any tasks, could hardly drive. He was suicidal until he got on Adderall and turned everything around.

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I'm 30 with ADD and take Adderall. After almost a year on paleo I haven't noticed any ADD-related changes. In fact, paleo became my primary hyper focus topic, and my work has suffered because of it.

I thought Melissa's answer above was really sharp. Unfortunately, though, we ADD folks still have to function and compete in a world dominated by Normals.

One problem I've run into with natural supplements is that a lot of them interact with Adderall in a way that reverses their effects. ZMA, for example, enhances and extends the effects of Adderall. Rhodiola interacts in the same way because it inhibits the re-uptake of the neurotransmitters that Adderall overproduces. When I combine them it makes my head feel like its going to explode.

I've read on ADD forums that Adderall mixes nicely with GABA and Kava Kava. I'm going to experiment with these combinations next, beginning with Kava*Adderall.

Taking 2 to 3 tablespoons of ground flax seeds (mixed into yogurt a la Seth Roberts) seems to help decrease the desire to smoke while on Adderall. That's a welcome effect. There are other people on Roberts' website that report similar results, so the effect seems to generalize to some extent.

I'm going to start playing around with colostrum now that Dr K has mentioned it.

The blog ADHD Interactions is an interesting and deep resource for dietary, supplementary, and prescription treatments of ADD. It also provides theoretical considerations about what ADD is and how it operates. The psychiatrist behind it is anonymous, but he seems pretty smart and intellectually curious. You can find it here:

http://adhd-treatment-options.blogspot.com/

Off the top of my head, that's all of the ADD stuff that I've collected along the way so far. Hope it helps. Critical comments and elaborations from everyone would be much appreciated - ADD is such a complicated puzzle for us to grapple with!

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Just going Paleo should help. Cutting out the gluten and cassien in ones diet has been shown to help with autism spectrum disorders, which ADD is.

Another helpful, although semi-controversial option, is following the guidelines of the Feingold Diet, which eleminates certain artifical additives. Obviously paleo does this, but Feingold goes one step further eliminating certain foods high in salicites, such as berries and tomatoes.

My son, who although never was "officially" diagnosed, has issues with ADD/ADHD as well as some OCD and some other issues. We started him on Feingold about 3 years ago and have noticed a huge difference. We can tell almost instantly when he goes off diet. Originally he was super sensitive to salicites getting crazy hyper and restless after eating any. This has improved a lot, but he still reacts some if he has a large quantity of say berries.

We were very anti-drug also and were relieved that we found success with dietary changes.

I say give it a shot for a few weeks, 30 days or so, and see if it works for you... It can't hurt, right?

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I realize that medical classifications are often arbitrary, but ADD/ADHD is not considered an autism spectrum disorder-- cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/hcp-dsm.html – Ed Sep 20 2011 at 2:51
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as someone with a learning disability who works with people on the autism spectrum, I have to make a huge fuss about the idea that ADD is on the spectrum. it's not. While there are people with both, just because someone has one does NOT mean they have the other. ASD often involves an ability to "hyper-focus" and ignore all outside stimuli, an ability many people with ADD would LOVE to have. – Moonablaze Sep 20 2011 at 5:11
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This was an encouraging, somewhat mainstream article supporting the idea that diet might have more to do with treating ADD/ADHD than previously suspected. The study's conclusions do not lead to a paleo diet per se, but they do point to greater care in figuring out what foods trigger ADD/ADHD in children.

http://www.npr.org/2011/03/12/134456594/study-diet-may-help-adhd-kids-more-than-drugs

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ADHD and bipolar disorder are the two most commonly over diagnosed disorders. I'm not saying you don't have the disorder but sometimes therapists just diagnose someone that is a bit more energetic or distracted than the 'norm' as having them. (Source: Abnormal Psychology course/professor)

But, as mentioned above, going paleo would probably help alleviate your symptoms.

If there is a naturopath in your area you might try seeking their expertise for a natural means of minimizing your symptoms, or just browsing the internet for 'adhd and natuaral cures/treatments'.

http://www.nativeremedies.com/ailment/teen-adult-adhd-symptoms-info.html Not sure if this site is useful, but I found it on a quick google search.

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I agree, overdiagnosis of these are a big problem. I think the reason is that we have drugs for them, and having a drug to put someone on relieves responsibility somewhat. – Ambimorph Mar 19 2011 at 14:48
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Sadly yes. I think, presently, when a patient sees a physician or therapist the mindset is: "If I don't specify a disorder/illness or prescribe a drug I'm not doing what the patient wants." Pharmaceutical pressures probably also play a factor. Hopefully, this will change with growing awareness of health and physician/therapist-patient practices. – Allie Mar 19 2011 at 14:55
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there is actually a way to diagnose ADHD through MRI brainscans but the method is too expensive at the moment. while over diagnosed it is real. drstevenberk.com/Cartoons/ADDPetscan.jpg – MikeD Mar 19 2011 at 16:27
Right MikeD, I definitely agree that it is a real disorder. I just was noting it is often over diagnosed. – Allie Mar 19 2011 at 17:28
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I always assumed it was drastically over-diagnosed, because I didn't see how we could go from having one hyper kid per class of 25 a generation ago, to 10% of boys needing to be drugged today. However, the ADHD drugs are stimulants (except Strattera, which is pretty new and not used much). For most people, they're "speed", but for the minority with ADD, they have a reverse calming effect. If a kid is out of control in the classroom because his parents spared the rod, then a stimulant should make him more hyper. If he calms down and focuses, then there had to be something wrong with him. – Aaron B. Sep 19 2011 at 17:06
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My ADD-PI hasn't been improved by a healthy lifestyle including paleo/primal diet. I've tried VLC and that made it worse (my biggest problem is hyperfocus) . Now I eat starch.

I don't want to take drugs, but am considering Adderall ATM because I'm struggling with so many basic things.

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I share everyone's concern about mind-altering perscription drugs, but I'm currently on Vyvanse (similar to adderal). I resisted for as long as I could, but I simply wasn't able to function anywhere near the level I'm capable of. Don't be ashamed if you do end up deciding to try Adderall. I'm certainly not. – Mike Harris Mar 19 2011 at 21:21
adderal raises leptin levels......and hence why it causes huge issues. Got to solve it without a drug that cause central resistance. – The Quilt Mar 20 2011 at 0:58
Higher leptin would probably be good for me, Dr. K. I'm still pretty emaciated. – animalcule Mar 20 2011 at 3:47
And thanks Mike. I have no shame at all. ;) The right diet has been nothing short of miraculous for me, but it can't cure the structural problems in my parietal lobes. And I think I need help, to be a happy and functional person. Most people I have known with ADD do very well with Adderall and have few side effects. ldpride.net/addsub-types.htm Left column is my issues to a T. lol/sob – animalcule Mar 20 2011 at 3:52
I have the same type of ADD that you do. Have you tried fish oil? And adding more fat to your diet? That's what helps me, diet-wise. I take a low dose of extended release methylphenidate, and have tried not taking it, but I just HAVE to take it. Adderall is a devil drug, I hated it. It made me into a monster. Keep that in mind, (esp. since we both have ADD-PI) What REALLY helps is changing my lifestyle. I just CANNOT be on a computer..it's too much stimulation and leads to intense hyperfocus. I try to be outside as much as I can. Hope I helped at least a tiny bit. – Neane Apr 28 2011 at 20:48
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Thanks for all the responses. I've been pretty strict Paleo for about a year now and have seen some focus change, but overall still not were I need to be. I have healed my gut and currently going through some cortisol issues, so maybe they will continue to improve.

Is there any natural supplement that helps?

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For adrenal resistance we test for alot.......but without testing I can tell you what we would use but no doses without values. Melatonin, Colostrum, coconut oil, fish oil, Magnesium, and dark lights at sunset. – The Quilt Mar 20 2011 at 0:56
everything on my list is natural..... – The Quilt Mar 20 2011 at 0:57
DHEA can also be a huge help....but you need to be tested before I would start it........ – The Quilt Mar 20 2011 at 2:59
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Side question; has anyone who was not able to handle stimulants pre-paleo tried them again post paleo? I took adderall in college but it made me an anxious mess and I didn't have a feeling of "wellness" while on it. I'm curious how I'd do on it now that I've eliminated food allergies and strengthened my body overall..

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My oldest daughter has ADHD (combined type). From birth, she had food allergies, had colitis, strange rashes, intolerance to my breastmilk even as I nursed her on a very restrictive diet, etc. We fed her a very limited diet, slowly adding in and usually failing foods. As she got older, it became apparent that she had ADHD and that her behavioral issues when we would trial milk or gluten were actually a result of exacerbating her ADHD symptoms. We ended up putting her on Strattera, which was simply a wonder drug for her, and we still maintain a fairly restrictive diet for her. No milk, soy, corn, gluten, artificial dyes, artificial sweeteners, etc. We can tell a difference when we let her have any of these things. We also give her fish oil and try to stay away from too much sugar.

My husband also has ADHD (primarily inattentive) and was diagnosed after my daughter. He eats primarily Paleo and would probably say he can't tell a big difference in focus on and off the diet, though I think when he's more disciplined in the diet area of his life, it overflows into better discipline in other areas as well. But he can tell a huge difference (as can I), when he's on meds. Our marriage is much better when he's consistent with his meds as well.

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Saw a documentary on Netflix the other day about ADHD/bipolar in children (http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Frontline_The_Medicated_Child/70092244?trkid=2361637). Of course, during the course of interviews, they showed them eating: processed grains and other crap. They had obvious thyroid issues, skeletal problems, etc... but the answer proposed was more and more medication. I could only think that if these kids got the right nutrition, they'd minimize their psychiatric issues.

An elimination diet would probably very appropriate for what you're trying to figure out.

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